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Dan8267 says

So, they are just three more bad apples? Had any other three cops from the district shown, would it had turn out better?

What makes you think she did nothing wrong?

Dan8267 says

The facts are that

1. Every person has a First Amendment right to possess and use a smart phone (video recorder / communication device). Neither the principle nor the police have the right to use force to steal (take another's property without consent) the phone from the student.

She was being arrested. And they did not steal the phone.
Dan8267 says

2. The police had no right to use violence.

When necessary, they do.

Dan8267 says

3. These cops committed felony assault, theft, reckless endangerment of children, disturbing the peace, obstruction of justice, and abuse of power.

They did not. They were just doing their job.

Looks like the principal(note spelling, Dan) was the idiot here, escalating an incident of rule breaking into criminal punishment. He called the brutes and they came to do what brutes do. I guess the Texas lawmen are big and dumb and ignorant of the actual law. But hey, they're the dogs and the principal called them. He endangered the girl by calling the cops for a non criminal offense.

sbh says

Strategist says

They were just doing their job.

DAMN RIGHT! And, of course, her name is Ixel Perez. Har! Probably a wetback trollop just in from beanertown selling tar heroin and handjobs in the broom closet! The cops showed incredible restraint in not shooting her ten times. Good thing she didn't put her hands up or they'd have had no choice but to waste her beaner ass. What a fucking thug she is. Who knows, maybe she's a jig, so maybe Obama is proud of her too.

These sites that just constantly blame the cops and give one side of the story are probably run by Dan. Cops are people too, and they have constitutional rights. They are innocent until proven guilty. If I was to always bet on the cops being innocent, I would be right most of the, and be a very rich man in no time.

Strategist says

What makes you think she did nothing wrong?

The article. What makes you think she did?

And regardless, the theft of the phone and the assault were illegal.

Next time, it could be your daughter. She's more likely to be killed by cops than terrorists. Still want to protect your family?

Strategist says

She was being arrested.

1. The assault happen first.
2. She did not resist arrest. You are making shit up.
3. The arrest was false and illegal. Notice that she hasn't been charged with a crime. It's not illegal to possess a mobile phone.

Oh, and add that false arrest to the list of felonies the cops committed.

Strategist says

When necessary, they do.

And what the hell made it "necessary" in this case. It could have damn easily been YOUR daughter.

Strategist says

They did not. They were just doing their job.

The job of being a cop does not give one the right to break the law. The laws are the same regardless of whether or not you have a badge.

Strategist says

Cops are people too, and they have constitutional rights.

Since when is assaulting adolescent girls a Constitutional right?

You are soft on crime, cop crime. Plain and simple. If anyone else had committed such crimes, you would be calling for them to be lynched.

http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/neighborhood/2014/09/03/student-tackled-by-officers-over-cell-phone-tells-her-side-of-the-story/15040013/

"Both of the cops just tackled her down to the floor. They put her knee on her head and after that they just arrested her, took her phone," said student Gustavo Lucio who took the video on his cell phone. "The cop just said you can't use your phone and after that, no words no nothing, just actions, grabbed her, threw her down."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/04/ixel-perez-student-tackled_n_5766324.html

“I didn’t want to let go of my phone so they like, pinned me down to the floor,” she said. “One of them was behind me, like on my legs and trying to put the handcuffs on. It hurt a lot. And the other cop has his knee on my head, all his weight on me, and I was screaming because it hurt so much. I was crying because I thought I was going to get in trouble with my mom.”

People are under NO legal obligation to hand over their property to the police, especially not video recording devices.

And the police cannot take or search your mobile phone without a warrant. This was upheld by the Supreme Court.

So they assaulted her and committed theft and then falsely arrested her to cover up their crimes. 20 years minimum in prison. That's what any person would get for doing this to a cop of a cop's 15-year-old daughter.

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These guys deserve life in prison for such brutality against a child.

If they didn't tear off her arms and beat her with the wet ends, they showed admirable restraint.

Dan8267 says

The job of being a cop does not give one the right to break the law. The laws are the same regardless of whether or not you have a badge.

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

Cops are people too, and they have constitutional rights.

Since when is assaulting adolescent girls a Constitutional right?

You are soft on crime, cop crime. Plain and simple. If anyone else had committed such crimes, you would be calling for them to be lynched.

Cops don't go around attacking girls and stealing their phones. It's just silly.
The school principal or whoever called the cops for a reason. Even he/she gets the benefit of the doubt.
I stress once more.....the cops are innocent until proven guilty, and in my opinion they usually are. When they are not, lets punish them. It's as simple as that.

Dan8267 says

These guys deserve life in prison for such brutality against a child.

I see nothing wrong the cops did in the video.

Strategist says

Dan8267 says

These guys deserve life in prison for such brutality against a child.

I see nothing wrong the cops did in the video.

And that is why you are morally bankrupt.

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

Dan8267 says

These guys deserve life in prison for such brutality against a child.

I see nothing wrong the cops did in the video.

And that is why you are morally bankrupt.

Ha ha ha.
If the cops did something seriously wrong, and you have the video to prove it, lets prosecute the cops. I bet there is no case.
Cops are always bad, and criminals are always innocent is a concept you have to eject from your system. It makes no sense at all.

sbh says

With respect to injustice meeted out by LEOs, white people are pussies. Full stop. If any cracker was hammered down in the streets by a trigger happy cop, CaptainShuddup, you, CIC, Fort Wayne and others would be crying like bitch slapped nancy boys. Yet how many of you bother to blubber about the concept of 2nd amendment rights of the average Ferguson black man. After swelling with pride at the actions of Cliven Bundy do you think there is any portion left in the American population to which it also applies?

If, in a city the size of Ferguson somewhere in Kansas, a cop gunned down a belligerent piece of white-trash who had his hands up but his head held high jackin' his jaw about jack-booted thugs, you'd be on his side burning and stinking like a hot clutch. You look at skin color and only then do you consider culpability. If the kid in Ferguson bum rushed the cop then he got what he asked for. If he didn't rush the cop you should condemn the cop. Full stop.

For the record....I hate all criminals equally. I would shoot them all. :)

Dan8267 says

1. Every person has a First Amendment right to possess and use a smart phone (video recorder / communication device). Neither the principle nor the police have the right to use force to steal (take another's property without consent) the phone from the student.

A miinor attending school that has a no cell phone rule does NOT have a first amendment right to use a smart phone. It's sad your obsession doesn't allow you to understand something so simple.

Escalating a minor rules infraction into cops using force to take the phone was just stupid on everyone's part including the girl. The principle should have had much better judgement. The cops were just doing what the principle ordered them to do, but seriously lacked good judgement too.

Call it Crazy says

Afterwards, we saw a picture of sbh out driving in his car celebrating:

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He's got class - Red convertible (stolen?)
He's got guts - drinking and driving
He's got $5million if a white cop nabs him.
How come I get nuttin?

Dan8267 says

1. Every person has a First Amendment right to possess and use a smart phone (video recorder / communication device). Neither the principle nor the police have the right to use force to steal (take another's property without consent) the phone from the student.

Honey that is not a fact, the amendment that applies is the 4th amendment. But it is debatable if she has rights as a student and a minor.

Admittedly there was bad judgment all around. Cops do not reason they just stop shit, getting cops involved when a modicum of judgment and reason would have sufficed was the error.

This is just noise you mutts, miss the big picture important stuff.

There was no call for that, they should have just threw her out of school indefinitely. Not allow her back until her parents could sign a paper saying that their daughter is will to go to school and conduct her self by the same set of rules everyone else has to follow.

Who's training cops these days? Some loser little brothers who's older siblings tortured them when they were young. So now it's the only way they know how to handle conflict, is pinning people down and torturing them with Snot loogies until they say "UNCLE!".

This is the best there is, it's all that is left.

Kids are no good for them selves these days.
They think they were born with the God given right to be as unruly and disrespectful as they want to be. Rules don't apply to them.

A kids first impression of school should be the kindergarten teacher slapping that stupid look off their face.

sbh says

Because you get what you give. You and CIC are moral cowards.

Ouch!

sbh says

You blubber specious fantasies of injustices forced upon you. You two are always being ripped off by someone or something perpetrated by lower classes or people who think differently than you.

Ouch!

sbh says

You think you're victims, and you're proud of the anger that nourishes you, but the simple truth is, you're just small.

Ouch!

As a tax payer whose taxes go up in smoke, yes, I am a victim. I am a librul that speaks out against crime, terrorism and government waste. I am not the bad guy here, but the good guy. I don't understand the accusations you make.

Strategist says

I don't understand the accusations you make.

He's not making anything, he's just feeding.

I didn't read the part about the mother beating the shit out of the little weasel for breaking school rules and not doing what she was asked by school authorities. Did I miss it? Hmmm? Maybe there is more to the story.

bob2356 says

A miinor attending school that has a no cell phone rule does NOT have a first amendment right to use a smart phone.

I did not say that.

A minor does have property rights, as do the parents of the minor. Police cannot simply take private property from civilians because another civilian, an assistant principle, wants it. Police also cannot legally assault a child while performing this act of robbery.

Call it Crazy says

Exactly.... What's wrong with these parents today... These kids need their asses kicked regularly... The parents aren't doing their job!

If the girl didn't say yes sir and hand over the phone, especially knowing she was wrong, then in all seriousness a parent wasn't doing their job. That's no excuse for the stupidity that followed.

CaptainShuddup says

They think they were born with the God given right to be as unruly and disrespectful as they want to be. Rules don't apply to them.

Breaking a school rule is not even remotely close to breaking the law. If the school wanted to suspend her over this that would be one thing. The police should not be allowed to commit acts of violence to enforce arbitrary school rules. Those rules are not the law.

Strategist says

I am a librul that speaks out against crime, terrorism and government waste.

No liberal would refer to himself as a "librul".

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

I am a librul that speaks out against crime, terrorism and government waste.

No liberal would refer to himself as a "librul".

Are you implying the average liberal has a better teeth to tattoo ratio than the average conservative?

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

I am a librul that speaks out against crime, terrorism and government waste.

No liberal would refer to himself as a "librul".

Well Independent, but 70% librul. :)

Dan8267 says

Breaking a school rule is not even remotely close to breaking the law. If the school wanted to suspend her over this that would be one thing. The police should not be allowed to commit acts of violence to enforce arbitrary school rules. Those rules are not the law.

Can't argue with that, but then Parents shouldn't be allowed to argue with Her/His Authority in the Classroom. It should be as much of a one sided argument, as arguing with a Flight Attendant is. With at least no less consequences.

Which may include being tasered, held down by fellow passengers, then suffering the indignity of the Federal Marshals boarding the plane after it lands, hog tying you and carrying you out on a stick big game style, to the applause of faculty and staff.

Call it Crazy says

Call it Crazy says

Wow, you start drinking earlier and earlier every day...

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Wow, I just realized, that's sbh riding in the passenger side of Dan's red car...

But where's Dan? Is he passed out while driving on that freeway?
The cops better not take away what's left in his bottle. Cops have no right to steal private property.

Dan8267 says

CaptainShuddup says

They think they were born with the God given right to be as unruly and disrespectful as they want to be. Rules don't apply to them.

Breaking a school rule is not even remotely close to breaking the law. If the school wanted to suspend her over this that would be one thing. The police should not be allowed to commit acts of violence to enforce arbitrary school rules. Those rules are not the law.

The problem is that the principals and teachers cannot handle anything themselves anymore because of the constant threat of getting sued. So they resort to the only authority that can step in without having their lives ruined, the police, and they are certainly the wrong tools for that job and poorly trained. I agree the cops overstepped, but the real problem is that the golden rule for every issue these days is to call the cops, so you don't get personally involved. Back in the days when principals and teachers could discipline kids themselves without repercussions, the cops were rarely needed.

This is damning evidence...

Call it Crazy says

Afterwards, we saw a picture of sbh out driving in his car celebrating:

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hehhehheh...busted...

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

I am a librul that speaks out against crime, terrorism and government waste.

No liberal would refer to himself as a "librul".

Strategist says

Cops have no right to steal private property.

The fact that you would even argue that cops can lawfully cease private property solely on the request of a school administrator demonstrates you have no understanding of rule of law.

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

Cops have no right to steal private property.

The fact that you would even argue that cops can lawfully cease private property solely on the request of a school administrator demonstrates you have no understanding of rule of law.

They'll give it back.
Do you think the school administrator called 3 cops just so they could steal a girls cell phone? When my son was in middle school he was texting in class instead of paying attention to the teacher. The teacher took away his cell phone, called us over and gave me the cell phone. I wholeheartedly thanked her for doing the right thing and straightening out my son. According to you his rights were violated, and he had every right to fight tooth and nail to protect his private property, even if the cops were called.
If he took your advice, by now he would be in prison for various felonies. Instead, he is an 18 year old in University as a junior, and hopefully graduate before he can even legally celebrate graduation with champagne.
There comes a time when you need to realize what the common sense thing to do is. As they say "Discretion is the better part of valor"

Strategist says

They'll give it back.

Irrelevant. It's still theft. Since it was violently taken, it was robbery involving a minor, and that's a first-degree felony. Assault is another first-degree felony.

There was no law that gave the cops the right to take the smartphone or to use violence.

Strategist says

Do you think the school administrator called 3 cops just so they could steal a girls cell phone?

That is exactly what happened. It's a hard, empirical fact.

The school admin and the police were playing a stupid power game. That doesn't make their crimes and less, it makes it worse.

Strategist says

When my son was in middle school he was texting in class instead of paying attention to the teacher. The teacher took away his cell phone, called us over and gave me the cell phone.

And that would be fine. It's completely different when armed police tackle a student and inflict pain upon her as distort her body in order to "put her knee on her head". That's completely different.

Strategist says

If he took your advice, by now he would be in prison for various felonies.

What advice are you talking about? I haven't even talked about the incident you just brought up.

As for my advice to this girl and her parents: sue the school, the administrator, the police department, and the individual police.

Strategist says

"Discretion is the better part of valor"

Translation: Citizens should accept being assaulted, raped, and even murdered by the police in order to reduce the risk or level of this crime.

That is a stupid, unethical, and Unamerican philosophy. We don't tolerate Islamic terrorist; we shouldn't tolerate police terrorists for the exact same reason. Tolerating crime encourages crime. That's even more so for crimes committed by cops than for crimes committed by young black men. So, yeah, I'm going to be tough on crime, especially the crimes that aren't prosecuted in the status quo.

Your stupid philosophy that the cops should be allowed to commit any crime simply because they are cops is exactly what endangers your family and your children. They are far more likely to be killed by a cop than by an Islamic terrorist. They are also far more likely to be assaulted severely or raped by a cop than killed by a Islamic terrorist.