patrick.net

They should be taking you straight to jail.

I don't think so, the Mojave desert? It was a residential neighborhood...

What kind of bike was that?

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Strategist 2014 Dec 5, 9:05am

Strategist says

They should be taking you straight to jail.

I don't think so, the Mojave desert? It was a residential neighborhood...

What kind of bike was that?

My understanding is if you are going more than 100mph or something like that, they take you straight to jail.

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Strategist 2014 Dec 6, 1:42am

The Professor says

I too was not shot.

But I was young and acting stupid. Had I handled myself differently I probably would have had sore wrists at the minimum.

It's truly amazing that when you act civilized with police, you end up living.... There must be something to that...

Racist!

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FortWayne 2014 Dec 6, 6:49am

It's truly amazing that when you act civilized with police, you end up living.... There must be something to that...

As a libertarian I strongly dislike the idea of police shooting anyone who doesn't bend over to their will. That's much more government authority than I like in my life.

I don't know what happened in Ferguson, but Eric Garner was murdered right on camera and police got away with it. We are just moving more and more toward becoming some fascist police state.

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indigenous 2014 Dec 6, 11:57am

FortWayne says

As a libertarian I strongly dislike the idea of police shooting anyone who doesn't bend over to their will. That's much more government authority than I like in my life.

I don't know what happened in Ferguson, but Eric Garner was murdered right on camera and police got away with it. We are just moving more and more toward becoming some fascist police state.

There is fault on both sides of this one.

But the overarching problem is that city of NY is charging exorbitant taxes on cigarettes. Other contributing factors are Minimum wage law, Davis Bacon laws, Affirmative Action, ridiculous licencing fees, ridiculous regulations, welfare, food stamps, section 8 housing, etc etc

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Strategist 2014 Dec 6, 12:03pm

But the overarching problem is that city of NY is charging exorbitant taxes on cigarettes. Other contributing factors are Minimum wage law, Davis Bacon laws, Affirmative Action, ridiculous licencing fees, ridiculous regulations, welfare, food stamps, section 8 housing, etc etc

And all this time I thought California sucked.

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indigenous 2014 Dec 6, 12:04pm

And all this time I thought California sucked.

Hardly peculiar to Calif

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indigenous 2014 Dec 6, 12:07pm

This guy has a point:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/HMQCFqgAGyM&sns=em

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indigenous 2014 Dec 6, 12:12pm

I have always questioned if Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton were really preachers, since they
have no church.

When I heard Sharpton was a guest preacher at a nearby black church, I decided to check him out in person, and see what it was all about.

I sat down and the reverend came up to me -- I don't know why but maybe it was because I was the only white person in the church. He laid his hands on my hand and said: "By the will of Jesus the Lord All Mighty, and the will of God, you will walk today."

I told him I was not paralyzed. He came back and laid his hands on me again, and repeated the same thing. Again I told him there is nothing wrong with me.

After the sermon I stepped outside. Lo and behold, my car had been stolen!

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Strategist 2014 Dec 6, 12:19pm

I have always questioned if Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton were really preachers, since they

have no church.

They preach hate and racism. Church not required.

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Strategist 2014 Dec 6, 12:21pm

After the sermon I stepped outside. Lo and behold, my car had been stolen!

Serve you right. You did not have a "Vote for Obama" sticker on the bumper.

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Strategist 2014 Dec 6, 12:32pm

indigenous says

After the sermon I stepped outside. Lo and behold, my car had been stolen!

Serve you right. You did not have a "Vote for Obama" sticker on the bumper.

By the way, I hope you did not take the reverends advice and walked home. You would have lost your wallet too.

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Strategist 2014 Dec 6, 12:38pm

indigenous says

After the sermon I stepped outside. Lo and behold, my car had been stolen!

Re-distribution of wealth!

That's Ok. The money will be used for good purposes - drugs, alcohol, prostitutes and financing 7-11 robberies.

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Y 2014 Dec 6, 11:54pm

+1

After the sermon I stepped outside. Lo and behold, my car had been stolen!

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Y 2014 Dec 7, 12:01am

all these deaths due to resisted arrests.
solution: animal entrapment devices.
designed to safely subdue living flesh without harm.
every cop car should have a variety pack...

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FortWayne 2014 Dec 7, 12:36am

The Original Bankster says

What the media ISN'T telling you about Garner is that he was a habitual felon, with dozens of arrests, several for the same thing these cops were trying to arrest him for the day he died.

Doesn't give cops a right to kill a man. On this issue for me there are just two sides. Either we as people have rights under the bill of rights, or government has them and can take them away any moment. Obviously I prefer weak government where we have rights instead.

Government policing is a slippery slope, today they kill a black guy, tomorrow they'll kill a white guy. And if there is no punishment, the line will keep on moving.

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The Original Bankster 2014 Dec 7, 11:11am

theyre trying to essentially disarm and disband our domestic police.

it's scary to think WHY someone would be investing in something like this.

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The Original Bankster 2014 Dec 7, 11:11am

btw- take down the OP pic, it's a photoshop.

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Y 2014 Dec 7, 11:23am

bullshit.
It's a CorelPaint...

btw- take down the OP pic, it's a photoshop.

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Y 2014 Dec 7, 11:23am

Sorry Fort...CIC's got you on this one...

FortWayne says

Doesn't give cops a right to kill a man.

Oh, give it up already with the "cops killed a man" mantra...

Garner's overweight fat body killed him while he was NOT following the directions from the cops and was resisting arrest.

Period.

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FortWayne 2014 Dec 7, 11:34am

Oh, give it up already with the "cops killed a man" mantra...

Garner's overweight fat body killed him while he was NOT following the directions from the cops and was resisting arrest.

I am not going to give it up man. You know how it goes, you give these people a finger and they take a whole arm. That's not just liberals, that's everyone. You give cops a right to murder black guys today, tomorrow they'll be murdering everyone else as well. It's a slippery slope.

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HydroCabron 2014 Dec 7, 12:12pm

Huh: with no cops around, his fat body was just standing there. Then the cops show up, and his fat body decides to kill him. The cops did all they could to save him, but when a fat body decides to kill itself, there's nothing you can do.

Will they ever be able to explain why his body killed itself at that moment?

Garner's relatives should pay the cops a settlement for the distress they suffered trying to save a guy from his fat body.

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Strategist 2014 Dec 7, 1:06pm

(Garner's quote from the video- After telling the police officers, "Get away [garbled] for what? Every time you see me, you want to mess with me. I'm tired of it. It stops today.)

That's what killed him. "It stops today" It's obvious in the past he was more obedient, which is why he lived. When he decided not to obey anymore, he ends up dying.
Moral of the story.......don't fuck with the cops.

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Strategist 2014 Dec 7, 1:12pm

HydroCabron says

Huh: with no cops around, his fat body was just standing there. Then the cops show up, and his fat body decides to kill him. The cops did all they could to save him, but when a fat body decides to kill itself, there's nothing you can do.

Will they ever be able to explain why his body killed itself at that moment?

The cops followed protocol and did what they had to do. The "fat body" screwed up.
Poor McDonalds. They just lost their best customer.

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FortWayne 2014 Dec 7, 1:17pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klLniWq-edQ

Nobody's giving the cops the "right" to murder a black guy.

If you let them get away with murder today, they will do more tomorrow. It's human nature. It's how big government works, first they take away a few rights, later they take away more, and one day everyone wakes up living in a full blown dictatorship not even questioning how they got there.

I saw the video, to me that's murder and cops are getting away with it because they are authority without any authority to kick them in the ass when they do wrong.

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marcus 2014 Dec 7, 3:26pm

"We got a thousand points of light
For the homeless man
We got a kinder, gentler,
Machine gun hand"

Neil Young - "Keep on Rockin in the Free World"

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indigenous 2014 Dec 8, 12:13am

http://www.youtube.com/embed/5Q3LyECse3g

Does someone want to answer that question?

They need each other, how can you have a police force without criminals. Same deal with wars how can you have an army with no enemies, IOW you need ISIS or Iran.

Remember our overlords create these enemies for our own good, other wise peace would break out. The next thing you know there would be deflation. As Father Krugman tells us we can't have that...

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Y 2014 Dec 8, 2:52am

"Let freedom ring, let the white dove sing
Let the whole world know that today is a day of reckoning
Let the weak be strong, let the right be wrong
Roll the stone away, let the guilty pay it's Independence Day"

marcus says

"We got a thousand points of light

For the homeless man

We got a kinder, gentler,

Machine gun hand"

Neil Young - "Keep on Rockin in the Free World"

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zzyzzx 2014 Dec 9, 3:45am

75 humanity 2014 Dec 9, 4:43am

Strategist says

Call it Crazy says

(Garner's quote from the video- After telling the police officers, "Get away [garbled] for what? Every time you see me, you want to mess with me. I'm tired of it. It stops today.)

That's what killed him. "It stops today" It's obvious in the past he was more obedient, which is why he lived. When he decided not to obey anymore, he ends up dying.

Moral of the story.......don't fuck with the cops.

True!!! Somebody here actually has critical thinking skills...

Errc is right. You guys are literally cheering for the US to become more fascist.

In other words you want the way the citizens of the US view cops to be sort of like the way we sometimes seems to want the rest of the world to see the US ? Basically as a bully?

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komputodo 2014 Dec 13, 10:18am