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An Antidote To Corporate Media


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2015 Feb 9, 7:43am   689,227 views  600 comments

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Patrick.net is an online forum, a bit like Twitter or Reddit, but with much more freedom of speech than either of those. Almost anything goes, but a few things don't, such as deliberately personally insulting another user, or deliberately misrepresenting what another user said.

I got the patrick.net domain name back in 1995 when I was one day too late for patrick.com. Missing the .com name turned out to be fine. I prefer the .net name now because life is all about human networks. This site was just my personal blog from 1995 to 2004.

In 2004 I started writing about the housing bubble, which catapulted the site to national fame for a while. I was interviewed on NPR, on Nightline on TV, and in other corporate media that I have since learned to recognize as poison. Here are my original the articles about the housing bubble (the dates on them are much later because I updated them):

https://patrick.net/post/1282720/2015-07-11-ten-reasons-it-s-a-terrible-time-to
https://patrick.net/post/1282721/2015-07-11-eight-groups-who-lie-about-the-housing
https://patrick.net/post/1282722/2015-07-11-37-bogus-arguments-about-housing

The big housing bubble popped in 2008, and traffic fell, since it was no longer controversial to assert that we really had had a housing bubble.

About then, I decided to just let the public discuss other topics with each other and wrote my own forum software. I'm a programmer, so that was fun. At first I was kind of disturbed at the number of conservatives on the site, but as I discussed things with them and saw San Francisco literally turn to shit under far-left Democrats, I changed my thinking.

And yet I didn't change my thinking all that much, because once again, I'm opposing corruption of government by the oligarchy. Before, my enemy was the NAR (National Association of Realtors) and I still think the NAR is nothing but institutionalized crime, but there are bigger fish to fry now, especially since the worldwide campaign to inject every human with a dangerous and ineffective genetic experiment, which was never approved by the FDA. (They approved "Comirnaty", which is not available, to deceive the public.)

https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/thinking-points-september-21-2022


It’s like Pharma just backed a truck up to the Progressive Values Factory; stole everything; modified core values in order to maim people, make money, and implement global totalitarianism; and the left is just out there smoking a cigarette on the loading dock saying, “Sounds good to me.” What!? What the heck happened to the left? Is there no one remaining in that tribe who is capable of logic and reason!? Quite literally the worst industry in the world stole the left’s most cherished values and no one on the left is the slightest bit offended by this (even though they are offended by everything else)!? We live in the bizarro upside down world.




I could go on, but you'll get the idea by reading the site.



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122   Patrick   2018 Feb 28, 9:07pm  

WookieMan says
There are people I'd like to ignore, but they just keep coming back in different forms. I can hit the ignore button 100 times and it doesn't matter. The same ass bag will keep coming back.


Yes, you have a point there. Maybe I really should disallow anons.
123   WookieMan   2018 Feb 28, 9:22pm  

Sniper says
Sadly, no. There are a few sensitive, special snowflakes here that like to complain when their feelings are hurt.


I'm technically complaining. Hopefully you consider me a chunk of hail and not a snowflake though. Because I'm a hard ass M F'er.

Sniper says
IMO, subjective moderation or restrictions is what's caused the majority of past posters to leave.


I miss some of the past posters to be honest. Even though most have still been around. Refresh the site enough and you'll see many that haven't been heard from under their original usernames show up at the top. I have my flurry of posts, but I refresh the page frequently without posting and I've see a lot of past users logged in. Good feature addition Patrick ;)

Patrick says

Yes, you have a point there. Maybe I really should disallow anons.


I actually wouldn't go that far. Maybe just restrict them outside of instant moderation. Maybe number of posts/comments. I assume you've seen the recent dumpster fire in moderation right now? Someone must have gotten triggered. My apologies, as I feel like it may have been my finger on the trigger for this individual.
124   Patrick   2018 Feb 28, 9:23pm  

Yes, maybe the answer is that you get 3 comments as anon, but after that, you have to register to continue commenting from that IP.
125   WookieMan   2018 Feb 28, 9:49pm  

Ladies and gentleman. This is the trash we get to take out.

On a different note, I have it on good authority that anonymous users wife's snatch smells of rotting Kimchi.


I took out the users name. I really don't get this. This is entering the pure hatred and creeper level. It's a fucking anonymous internet forum guys! Grow the fuck up. I have fun here, get some good laughs, good info/news, some bad news, etc. but this type of shit is just disturbing.

I don't want to give this anon attention as they know who they are, so feel free to delete this comment Patrick if you want. Just feel like it may help people realize what is being "censored." Type shit like this I'll censor your ass all day. Regardless of who the anonymous user is in a comment like this.
126   WookieMan   2018 Feb 28, 9:59pm  

Patrick says
Yes, maybe the answer is that you get 3 comments as anon, but after that, you have to register to continue commenting from that IP.


I was more thinking a daily limit. As I mentioned, I bitch and whine about this topic a lot. But I do understand trying to be as anonymous as possible.

3 per day sounds reasonable to me. Only 3 posts in total as anon before a registration prompt and you're not going to have much retention for new users, or at least that's my guess. There's a balancing act here, but unfettered anon access to the forum I don't think has been a net positive to your whole operation. And there are flaws with registered users as well, but it's probably best to go after the low hanging fruit first..
127   Malcolm   2018 Mar 1, 7:49am  

It is funny, to me, that a rule saying be civil to each other is controversial and actually generated a debate.
128   Patrick   2018 Mar 1, 10:12am  

Malcolm says
It is funny, to me, that a rule saying be civil to each other is controversial and actually generated a debate.


Funny to me too.
129   WookieMan   2018 Mar 2, 10:19am  

@Patrick - Are anons back? Or did someone get clever with a new username on the thread with the teacher wanting to fuck that poor young boy?
130   Patrick   2018 Mar 2, 10:47am  

I'm changing things today and it was allowed again for a while. But the current plan is to just add username and email fields below the comment box when you are not logged in, so you can comment and register at the same time. That's how it used to be long ago, and I think it was the best way. It's still a speedbump, but not as much as a totally different registration step.

Sorry for all the experimentation. You'd think I'd have this down by now.
131   Patrick   2018 Mar 2, 10:50am  

Going to delete a lot of shit now.

Don't want to hear about other users or moderation policies. They are what they are.
132   anonymous   2018 Mar 2, 12:55pm  

Patrick says
Going to delete a lot of shit now.

Don't want to hear about other users or moderation policies. They are what they are.


Moving forward, should i continue to mark comments as personal when people call a user by a different, or old, user name?
133   Patrick   2018 Mar 2, 1:04pm  

Yes, please.
134   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 3, 5:05pm  

Getting an error message:

"Cannot read property 'name' of undefined"

Malcolm says
It is funny, to me, that a rule saying be civil to each other is controversial and actually generated a debate.


We're seeing a drive to censorship and "un-personing" "frowned upon speech" all over the internet. It's fine to have free speech without wallowing in ad hom insult slinging.

US Navy Pilot and Pediatrician Dr. Ari Friedman was suspended from Twitter, reasons unknown.
Sargon was suspended from Google and Youtube, despite having no red flags or warnings on any of his content. He's back on Youtube but not Google.
It's pretty clear that Social Media is "Experimenting" with algos. They had a mini-purge of the Liberal Centrists and Center-Right, although they didn't knock off the Actual Nazis, Muslim Extremist Accounts, or the Kill Yakub's White Devils accounts.
135   Patrick   2018 Mar 3, 5:15pm  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Getting an error message:

"Cannot read property 'name' of undefined"


Oh shit, that looks like a major bug.

@TwoScoopsPlissken How did you get it? Can you reproduce it?
136   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 3, 5:30pm  

Let me try.

I also got "Are you connected to the internet?" over and over again when I tried to respond on the recent Soc Sec/Immigrant thread.

What fixed it was eliminating the quoted passage from the post, which took no problem, and then editing it back in.

I had thought the site was under Chicom attack again.
137   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 3, 5:39pm  



results in...

138   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 3, 9:16pm  

Hi @Patrick, the problem is related to quotes. Again in the Soc Sec thread, I tried quoting Bob so he could see exactly what I was responding to, and it said "Failed to Connect. Are you sure you're online?" or words to that effect.

Removing the quote, and it posted just fine.
139   Patrick   2018 Mar 4, 9:31am  

@TwoScoopsPlissken I have not been able to reproduce it. Does it still happen for you?

Which one of Bob's comments were you quoting? Thanks!
140   mell   2018 Mar 4, 9:34am  

Patrick says
@TwoScoopsPlissken I have not been able to reproduce it. Does it still happen for you?

Which one of Bob's comments were you quoting? Thanks!


Encountered that too, but didn't have a quote in it. Was thinking maybe it got a disconnect earlier on the first attempt and somehow the contents are hashed and it simply returns a cached response. Changing the post in any way resolved it.
141   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 4, 11:58am  

Patrick says
Which one of Bob's comments were you quoting? Thanks!
Don't recall, but it happened while trying to quote another poster's quote also.

Like mell said, if I changed the post, it then "took" and I could edit what I took out back in, not problem.
142   Onvacation   2018 Mar 4, 1:52pm  

Insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results...
Unless you're working on a computer.
143   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 4, 6:03pm  

Can't make a new post with a youtube link. Without it, it's fine. It's the "Great Comedy that would be impossible today."

And this post "Failed to post. Are you still connected to the internet?"

Removed it and posted just fine.
144   MrMagic   2018 Mar 4, 6:29pm  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
And this post "Failed to post. Are you still connected to the internet?"


I received that same error this afternoon when posting from my phone. Haven't seen it happen from the laptop. Could it be a mobile issue?
145   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 5, 12:50pm  

Yeah, I can't put up Youtube video links.
146   Patrick   2018 Mar 5, 12:52pm  

Working on it today. Sorry about that.
147   WookieMan   2018 Mar 5, 5:27pm  

@Patrick - Are you working on the user part of the site? Clicked on the 10,975 users link just now. Went through and some users past comments load and others don't.
148   Patrick   2018 Mar 5, 6:51pm  

Lots of things are changing at the moment, so it might be a bit weird.
149   WookieMan   2018 Mar 5, 6:55pm  

Cool. No biggie. I assume your username may not show up at the top when you're tooling around with changes to the site. Wasn't sure if it was some foreign agent or not since I didn't see you logged in. I was thinking it was the Malaysians trying to bring the operation down.
150   anonymous   2018 Mar 5, 9:14pm  

It's fine to have free speech without wallowing in ad hom insult slinging.

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What changed? Prior to the election of Trump, this oddly didn’t matter to the same people who all of a sudden in early 2017, something changed. All of a sudden, civility became important. Free Speech became less important. Bizarre
151   Patrick   2018 Mar 5, 11:56pm  

Fixed a bunch of things, and took down the user list page because it seemed like it was causing problems.
152   Patrick   2018 Mar 6, 12:05am  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Can't make a new post with a youtube link. Without it, it's fine. It's the "Great Comedy that would be impossible today."

And this post "Failed to post. Are you still connected to the internet?"

Removed it and posted just fine.


@TwoScoopsPlissken OK you should be able to post YouTube videos again. The problem was that I was trying to allow certain styles so that blockquotes could be in a different color, and that managed to conflict with YouTube somehow.
153   anonymous   2018 Mar 6, 3:29am  

@Patrick is it just YouTube specifically or is it a clash with the fact that hyperlinks post as blue causing the problem?
154   Patrick   2018 Mar 6, 8:06am  

@errc I'm not sure what the problem was, but I will come back to the idea of putting quotes in different colors.
155   anonymous   2018 Mar 6, 8:07am  

@Patrick can you restore the time stamps to users locale?

I liked that
156   Patrick   2018 Mar 6, 8:10am  

If you click on your own name or icon, and then 'edit profile', you should be able to change your timezone and then all the timestamps should be in that timezone.

Let me know if it does not work for you.
157   Onvacation   2018 Mar 6, 9:45am  

APFuck is now the most liked patnet user of all time.
I checked before Patrick got rid of the user list.
I appreciate AF's humor, though I liked it more when it was about cannibal anarchy instead of sodomising Trump.
158   missing   2018 Mar 6, 10:35am  

Patrick says
and took down the user list page because it seemed like it was causing problems.


LOL
I knew it was a matter of time.
159   Patrick   2018 Mar 6, 10:37am  

Onvacation says
I appreciate AF's humor, though I liked it more when it was about cannibal anarchy instead of sodomising Trump.


I agree. The unremitting personal attacks on Trump are kind of tedious, especially when they are completely evidence-free.

FP says
Patrick says
and took down the user list page because it seemed like it was causing problems.


LOL
I knew it was a matter of time.


Yes, the site should not be a competition for likes or number of comments. It should just be people talking to try to gain useful insights from each other about housing, politics, economics, etc.
160   anonymous   2018 Mar 6, 10:51am  

I agree. The unremitting personal attacks on Trump are kind of tedious, especially when they are completely evidence-free.

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It’s a shame this attitude didn’t exist nine years ago, huh?
161   Patrick   2018 Mar 6, 10:56am  

I didn't say the Obama stuff was any better.

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