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FortWayne says

Liberals tend to rewrite history to fit their own narrative.

Some people who call themselves "liberal" or "conservative" or "libertarian" do that, but it is neither a liberal nor conservative nor libertarian thing to do. You have repeatedly done that regarding Rome among other topics.

liberal tennents and values are the only hope for wage earners to regain some dignity and some freedom in this country.

There is no free market other than the one that exists structured by policies that guarantee the rich will always win using their built in advantages, which are A LOT of government services that us taxpayers pay for.

@jazz_music I appreciate your hope, but the reality is that Democratic policies have become much worse than those of Republicans, crushing wage earners by forcing them to compete directly with underpaid Chinese and Mexicans.

If you want reasonable wages, you must help stop the export of jobs and the import of illegals, both of which crush wages for the poorest American citizens, especially black people, far more effectively than any Republican policy has yet so far.

The Democrats have betrayed their supporters so massively and flagrantly that they should be disbanded as a party and reconstituted as the Labor Party, with the explicit goal of stopping the export of jobs and import of illegals.

Since when did cheap foreign labor become a “liberal” thing and not a Republican thing?

Which policies are those exactly?

Let's start with Democratic support for mass illegal immigration and government benefits for illegals.

@Aphroman Since Democrats developed an obsession with tranny bathrooms and various other divisive distractions from the real issues.

Sure, Republicans have always been the business party, but now with Trump, amazingly, they represent the concerns of labor much better than Democrats do.

The Democratic Party has forgotten its reason for existence.

Patrick says

LeonDurham says

Which policies are those exactly?

Let's start with Democratic support for mass illegal immigration and government benefits for illegals.

Where is your proof for your statement?

LeonDurham says

Which policies are those exactly?

Let's start with Democratic support for mass illegal immigration and government benefits for illegals.

Who hired the illegal immigrant that killed Mollie Tibbetts

You have great patience. This question has been answered many times and at this point repeatedly asking "which policies are these" is unproductive. The American people figured out that the Dems are the party of the new slave labor oligarchs and that's the reason Trump is prez and doing pretty well.

What exactly is wrong with a local government not doing federal government work?

You have great patience. This question has been answered many times and at this point repeatedly asking "which policies are these" is unproductive. The American people figured out that the Dems are the party of the new slave labor oligarchs and that's the reason Trump is prez and doing pretty well.

Seriously. This is a trolling pattern for Democrats/Leftists here.

Logical Person: "Democrats support illegal immigration."

Democrat: "Uh really? lol what policies support that statement?"

Logical Person: "How about sanctuary cities?"

*democrat disappears from the thread*

I think you mean a local government subverting Federal work, that would be the correct word to use.

The goal is to stop people from entering illegally.

And stop people from being employed illegally. Why no e-verify?

Goran_K says

I think you mean a local government subverting Federal work

Is that not orange that the guy is wearing? Did he not get tried? What sanctuary City policy was used to subvert his day in court?

*Libertarian disappears from the thread*

FortWayne says

Who is giving out licenses to illegals in CA? Hint, not Republicans.

Who is not making e-verify the law of the land? Hint both Democrats and more over Republicans since they have the majority in both the house and the Senate.

Who is hiring unskilled foreign labor? Hint, Trump. Guess he doesn't love Americans enough to only hire Americans.

mell says

The blood of Kate Steinle is on every

The blood of Mollie Tibbetts is on every Republican law maker and support of Republican law makers.

What has changed from the eight years of Obama’s presidency?

Sanctuary cities is about treating people humanely.

How do sanctuary city policies accomplish that?

Studies on the relationship between sanctuary status and crime have found that sanctuary policies either have no effect on crime

I didn't know Bush was a Muslim.

Karthick Ramakrishnan, a public policy professor at UC Riverside, calls what's emerging "the California package": an array of policies that touch on nearly every aspect of immigrant life, from healthcare to higher education to protection from federal immigration enforcement.

Other states have adopted components of the package; Connecticut, for example, offers in-state tuition and driver's licenses, and passed legislation known as the Trust Act to help limit deportations before California did.

But Ramakrishnan said California is unique in how comprehensive its offerings are.

Most of these laws were passed after 2000, and became especially plentiful after 2012, when President Obama took executive action that shielded from deportation people who were brought to the country illegally.

California was one of the first states to authorize driver's licenses for those affected by Obama's order; two years later, Gov. Jerry Brown signed a law enabling all immigrants in the U.S. illegally to seek licenses. The same year, the state expanded in-state tuition for more students in the country illegally and allowed people without legal status to obtain law and other professional licenses.

Mostly his staff has made all the real accomplishments.

Sanctuary cities is about treating people humanely.

It's funny that the only people I hear worried about Tranny bathrooms are always Republicans

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is planning to issue a sweeping directive telling every public school district in the country to allow transgender students to use the bathrooms that match their gender identity.

A letter to school districts will go out Friday, adding to a highly charged debate over transgender rights in the middle of the administration’s legal fight with North Carolina over the issue. The declaration — signed by Justice and Education department officials — will describe what schools should do to ensure that none of their students are discriminated against.

It does not have the force of law, but it contains an implicit threat: Schools that do not abide by the Obama administration’s interpretation of the law could face lawsuits or a loss of federal aid.

The move is certain to draw fresh criticism, particularly from Republicans, that the federal government is wading into local matters and imposing its own values on communities across the country that may not agree. It represents the latest example of the Obama administration using a combination of policies, lawsuits and public statements to change the civil rights landscape for gays, lesbians, bisexual and transgender people.

Appreciate my point that the politics of inequality have ransacked our nation and will continue until we FORCE it to stop.

Sanctuary cities are about undercutting wages for the poorest US citizens.

Even if you disagree about why some cities are inviting in illegals, the effect is the same: immense harm and deeper poverty for the poorest US citizen. What about treating them humanely instead?

I've yet to see anyone respond to the reality that illegal immigrants consume as well as produce so they really aren't that much of a drain, if at all.

Rocketmanjoe says

The goal is to stop people from entering illegally.

And stop people from being employed illegally. Why no e-verify?

And why no criminal prosecutions of CEOs that hire illegals?

Uh, what do you think happens to the wages of the poor if their area gets flooded by illegals willing to work for less than the minimum wage?

what about restaurant owners?

hotel chains?

That is the definition of a Luddite. Beside, all sectors of US society are richer now than they ever were, and we are more automated now than we have ever been.