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An Antidote To Corporate Media


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2015 Feb 9, 7:43am   715,657 views  602 comments

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I got the patrick.net domain name back in 1995 when I was one day too late for patrick.com. Missing the .com name turned out to be fine. I prefer the .net name now because life is all about human networks. This site was just my personal blog from 1995 to 2004.

In 2004 I started writing about the housing bubble, which catapulted the site to national fame for a while. I was interviewed on NPR, on Nightline on TV, and in other corporate media that I have since learned to recognize as poison. Here are my original the articles about the housing bubble (the dates on them are much later because I updated them):

https://patrick.net/post/1282720/2015-07-11-ten-reasons-it-s-a-terrible-time-to
https://patrick.net/post/1282721/2015-07-11-eight-groups-who-lie-about-the-housing
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And yet I didn't change my thinking all that much, because once again, I'm opposing corruption of government by the oligarchy. Before, my enemy was the NAR (National Association of Realtors) and I still think the NAR is nothing but institutionalized crime, but there are bigger fish to fry now, especially since the worldwide campaign to inject every human with a dangerous and ineffective genetic experiment, which was never approved by the FDA. (They approved "Comirnaty", which is not available, to deceive the public.)

https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/thinking-points-september-21-2022


It’s like Pharma just backed a truck up to the Progressive Values Factory; stole everything; modified core values in order to maim people, make money, and implement global totalitarianism; and the left is just out there smoking a cigarette on the loading dock saying, “Sounds good to me.” What!? What the heck happened to the left? Is there no one remaining in that tribe who is capable of logic and reason!? Quite literally the worst industry in the world stole the left’s most cherished values and no one on the left is the slightest bit offended by this (even though they are offended by everything else)!? We live in the bizarro upside down world.




I could go on, but you'll get the idea by reading the site.



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550   Patrick   2021 Jul 1, 6:24pm  

I do think the left is orders of magnitude more angry and intolerant than the right.

For example, do you know of anyone, ever, who was unfriended for holding leftist views? The right tolerates the left, listens, and does not end friendship over such stuff even if they continue to disagree.

But the opposite does not hold. I would bet money that all of the unfriendings done in our lifetimes were 100% by leftists who could not tolerate any disagreement.

Similarly, almost all of the political violence done in our lifetimes was done by leftists. Only the left is violent these days, never the right, but you'd never know this fact from the MSM.

The very rare exceptions prove the rule. I can't even think of any, but there probably are a few. Compare BLM/Pantyfa actions in 2020, resulting in literally hundreds of violent riots, many of them resulting in murder, vs no riots and no murders at all on the right. The "insurrection" by unarmed selfie takers also proves the rule. The only fatality was a Trump supporter killed by a Capitol policeman.

Left = intolerant and violent
Right = tolerant and nonviolent

These are indisputable facts for anyone who actually looks at what is really going on.
551   richwicks   2021 Jul 1, 8:15pm  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
And in particular I think George Bush was acting on the best intel he had at the time post 9/11. I have to study up some more...there’s a few books I’ve had on the back burner....but I’m guessing that alone could be an epic thread. Once I’m read up on everything...I have no problem taking on the entire site.


I will take you up on this. I am in complete disagreement with you on this topic and I'm willing to discuss it civilly.

I don't think the US has been in a justifiable war since at least WWII, and even then, I'm not certain about WWII. We are lied into all our wars and our intelligence agencies aren't this incompetent.
552   richwicks   2021 Jul 1, 8:26pm  

Patrick says
For example, do you know of anyone, ever, who was unfriended for holding leftist views? The right tolerates the left, listens, and does not end friendship over such stuff even if they continue to disagree.


I do - me.

There's a point where I cannot take people's insistence that a bloodthirsty warmongering President like Obama that went on to bomb Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and Syria is somehow a much better and less violent person than Trump was, especially when they are utterly oblivious that Obama went on to bomb Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and Syria even though I've pointed this out to them multiple times. Hope and Change eh? Change to me wasn't gay marriage and a national discussion on trans-gendered bathrooms and I expect "smart" people to realize that. If they can't, I have to question their actual intelligence and moral thinking.

I don't want to be around people who just spew propaganda at me after a point, and have no logical or moral basis for their viewpoints, and simply have their viewpoints fed to them through mass media.

And that goes for BOTH "sides".

People who have told me that we "need to kill them over there otherwise we need to kill them over here" for example. Lunatics that think terrorists are going to barge into a classroom to blow up their kids. People that don't understand that US policy is to CREATE terrorists, not eliminate them and insist on arguing about trivialities and distractions like gay marriage, school prayer, trans-gendered bathrooms, flag burning and other bullshit that is created exclusively to get people at each other's throats. I see these as distractions and I'm irritated when other people cannot, for years. These are not important issues for the ruling class and therefore, aren't important issues at all.

People who insist on fighting on enemy turf, can't see that it's enemy turf - it's enormously frustrating. I really don't give a shit if some fucked up piece of shit parent allows their 9 year old kid to "change sex". Not my kid, but I do care when my nation is acting like the goddamned 4th Reich. There are issues that transcend our own existence. In 100 years, the American flag may be looked upon in the same way as the Swastika is today. That's the issue we ought to be worried about. Don't fuck up this nation, we have a responsibility for the next generation.
553   Patrick   2021 Jul 20, 11:37pm  

https://twitter.com/JoshuaLisec/status/1417184186599972869#m

Most tribal disagreements on here result from Word Thinking (Credit: @ScottAdamsSays).

"This word means that, and that's bad!"

"No, it means this, and that's good!"

See this everywhere.
556   RWSGFY   2021 Aug 3, 7:43am  

zzyzzx says


RNZ is their NPR.
560   TrueLightEssence   2021 Sep 26, 9:57am  



original link
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Dear Patrick,
May I share this heart call?
I have a small bitchute channel: 'Searching For The Evidence'.
My aim is to protect the vulnerable.
Timing is critical...We must make a stand.
With Love, Claire
561   charlie303   2021 Dec 16, 8:04am  

sjmoca2 says
Serious question for @Patrick and the followers of this forum.

Why did @Patrick censor the 'sjmoca' account by banning, when they did not break any forum rules? This forum purports to be a space to discuss ideas and disagree without insults. Patrick insulted 'sjmoca' by calling him a pharma shill, and then censored them by banning - seemingly only for posting data, ideas, or questions that Patrick personally disagrees with.

It's Okay for you to be offended Patrick. It's not Okay, by your own rules, to censor those who disagree with you.


because you are a bullshitter.

no links, no sources cited, no references, no nuanced debate, no reason, no rational discourse
just looking to troll

a waste of electrons flying around the interwebs

.
562   Patrick   2022 Apr 12, 9:15pm  

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/circumventing-manipulation-via-trojan?s=r&source=patrick.net


consider the structure of the question being posed and the assumptions therein, because they will seek to skip steps and occlude what’s being done and they will blow it by you because you happen to like the outcome so you won’t think about it too hard or bother to fight.

they will pick the least sympathetic case to get the ball rolling.

after all, who’s going to stand up for some neo nazis?

well, you should, and here’s why: sure they may be odious and you may disagree violently with them, but an assault on their speech is an assault on everyone’s speech, yours included.

the price of your own free speech is listening to others say things you absolutely hate. if you are not willing to do this, you neither deserve nor will you retain your own right of speech.

no one ever said it was easy, only that it was just and fair.

it is precisely because you will not stand up for the right to hateful speech that they are able to take your free speech away. then, one day, you try to protest a school board for muzzling your children in class and they silence you, bar you from discourse, and, in all too predictable fashion, brand you as a fascist and a nazi and as a domestic terrorist. (and yes, this really happened)

and it was your fault. you walked into it and let them set up the trap by changing the framing from rights to privileges. you failed to defend nazi speech and thereby lost your own. we all did (or enough did that the rest got run over)
563   AmericanKulak   2022 Apr 19, 9:35am  

@Patrick, can I suggest all appearances of "Pedo" and "Pedophile" and "Pedophilia" be replaced with "Disney"?
564   Patrick   2022 Apr 19, 10:13am  

Lol, I could do that.

OK, done for new comments and posts.

@AmericanKulak
565   richwicks   2022 Apr 19, 10:18am  

Patrick says
Lol, I could do that.

OK, done for new comments and posts.

@AmericanKulak


If you are going to do that, can I suggest that you make it so that when the cursor hovers over the world "disney" the original word is shown?
566   Patrick   2022 Apr 19, 10:34am  

@richwicks OK, done.
567   richwicks   2022 Apr 19, 10:37am  

Patrick says
@richwicks OK, done.


Well, let's test it - a lot of Disney">Disneys work for Disney, in fact many pedophiles are upper level executives. Jean-Luc Brunel was a pedophile who worked with Jeffrey Epstein, Les Wexner, and Ghislaine Maxwell. He was Epsteined himself in a Paris prison while he was awaiting trial. Video evidence was again destroyed.

It missed the 2nd one.

Les Wexner is the billionaire of Victoria Secrets.
568   Patrick   2022 Apr 19, 10:46am  

Ah, need to make that a global match and replace, thanks.

And need to account for plural.
569   richwicks   2022 Apr 19, 10:49am  

If you ever want to setup a virtual machine to mirror this site, you know I can help.

Should be easy to clone your setup. Email won't work, but it doesn't need to.
570   Patrick   2022 Apr 19, 10:54am  

Ah, the tooltip itself was getting replaced, ugh.

Just going to replace with plain "Disney" text for now.
571   richwicks   2022 Apr 19, 11:15am  

Patrick says
Ah, the tooltip itself was getting replaced, ugh.

Just going to replace with plain "Disney" text for now.


I don't know what the tooltip looks like (html pretty bad now) - but if you could do a match on the tooltip and make that an exception..

I'll screw around with it this weekend. You're using PHP? Guess I'll learn that instead of doing it in perl.
572   Patrick   2022 Apr 19, 11:17am  

No php, it's all javascript (node).
574   AmericanKulak   2022 Apr 19, 11:32am  

Thanks, @Patrick, and good idea to cursor over, @richwicks.
575   Patrick   2022 Apr 19, 11:57am  

richwicks says
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Guide/Regular_Expressions?source=patrick.net


I could do it, but it gets a little nasty to say "match of all of these strings but not if they are in quotes".

Also, it might be confusing since, since I have to make it a link which goes nowhere, and the tooltip itself depends on holding the mouse over the ineffective link for some amount of time. Or maybe it can be done inside a span tag, but the tooltip delay is still going make it non-obvious.
576   Onvacation   2022 Apr 19, 11:12pm  

Disneys are fucked up
577   richwicks   2022 Apr 19, 11:17pm  

Patrick says
I could do it, but it gets a little nasty to say "match of all of these strings but not if they are in quotes".


Here's how I'd handle it in perl with a line:

$line =~ s/\"Disney\"/A_String_Youd_Never_See_sdj2m89amJx/g;
$line =~ s/Disney/disney/g;
$line =~ s/A_String_Youd_Never_See_sdj2m89amJx/\"Disney\"/g;

I use this trick quite often when doing weird substitutions. Perl is smart enough to optimize itself and realize what I'm "intending" to do.
578   Patrick   2022 Apr 22, 7:22pm  

DooDahMan says
“I’d rather rent and invest the money I didn’t put down for the down payment, home insurance, property tax, all of the other costs and make 7%-10% in the stock market


Thanks @DooDahMan that has definitely been my philosophy.

I'm grateful that my wife went along with it. I think most guys get a lot of pressure to get deeply into debt.
579   Patrick   2022 Apr 27, 12:28pm  

I broke some things about linkification and automatically inserting images.

Working on a fix now.
580   Patrick   2022 Apr 27, 2:10pm  

OK, I fixed it.

Please let me know if other problems.
581   Patrick   2022 Apr 28, 1:42pm  

Sorry if you couldn't get to the site for a few seconds. I changed the deployment script to use "reload" instead of "restart":

https://futurestud.io/tutorials/pm2-cluster-mode-and-zero-downtime-restarts?source=patrick.net

Now I should be able to deploy new code with almost zero downtime. In theory it's zero, but I did see one 500 error during a test deploy, so I guess it's not perfect.
583   Patrick   2022 May 10, 4:03pm  

I reworked some of the code, in particular comment pagination.

You all shouldn't notice much of a difference, but let me know if something is broken. Make a comment here or write p@patrick.net
584   AmericanKulak   2022 May 17, 8:50am  

@Patrick, when I start a new post, and try to upload an image, it refreshes the page. This also happened last night.

I just posted a picture to non-new thread, and it was no problem. That was Senate Candidate Kathy Barnette discussing how Jan 6th Rally was fun.
585   Patrick   2022 May 17, 10:02am  

@AmericanKulak Thanks for telling me.

I think I fixed it, please try again now.
586   PMack   2022 May 17, 10:22am  

The Antidote is to turn to the Word of God.
587   stereotomy   2022 Jun 2, 3:29am  

What is with all the p3nor spammers?
588   Patrick   2022 Jun 26, 9:19pm  

I learned a new term today:


In philosophy and rhetoric, eristic (from Eris, the ancient Greek goddess of chaos, strife, and discord) refers to an argument that aims to successfully dispute another's argument, rather than searching for truth. According to T.H. Irwin, "It is characteristic of the eristic to think of some arguments as a way of defeating the other side, by showing that an opponent must assent to the negation of what he initially took himself to believe."[1] Eristic is arguing for the sake of conflict, as opposed to resolving conflict.[2]


It seems that trollery has always been with us.
589   GreaterNYCDude   2022 Jul 25, 4:58pm  

I'm down to try this.

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