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Were there any flaming helicopters going down in enemy territory, taking gun fire?

You need to define a Lie.

You and that lying sack of Shit John Stewart has been saying for the last 6 years, that Fox news was lying for saying everything Obama was trying to do, was going to suck.
And guess what, IT SUCKED!

Just because you assholes don't like the truth being put out there, doesn't make it a lie. Sound bytes out of context are not lies. Well they are usually are, because they aren't always honest now are they?

Call it Crazy says

Such a witty comeback from the resident delusional liar!!

Ha Ha Ha... !!! Ha Ha Ha...!! You called him delusional!!! PWNED!!.....!!!

Reading comprehension Einstein asswipe crap shack community organizer never knew what hit him!!??! It's the.. REHAB trifecta!!!

jazz music says

SUPERB: That link sooo competely obliterates ANY AND ALL CLAIM TO INTERGRITY by Newscorp

The Captaindimbulbs and the CIC's of the world don't give shit. Fox tells them the lies they want to believe.

It's as simple as that.

If one is incapable of being honest with themself, then aren't they going to appreciate a low integrity media outlet that helps them believe the lies they want to believe ?
Of course they do.

CaptainShuddup says

You need to define a Lie.

Cool! What's the definition of "is"?

And the definition of "community organizer", a term as innocuous as "electrical contractor", that has been turned into a synonym for "SS-Obergruppenführer Reinhard Heydrich"?

CaptainShuddup says

If it declined any further businesses would have to rely on the honor system and robots to serve you your hamburger and get paid.

I think we found the problem.

Not only is he getting the predictions from Fox News, he's believing the reality they create to confirm their own beliefs.

It's so precious! Like kittens who haven't opened their eyes yet.

All the people worth a shit is working now. That's the Liberal's damn story and they are sticking with it.
If you aren't working, then you really have a job, you're a full time Liberal token and political fodder as a professional entitlement citizen. Please report to HUD, SNAP and ACA to get your certification.

Call it Crazy says

sbh says

shit

Looks like you've mastered 4 letter words, now lets move up to 5 letter words! Try this one:

Drunk

CaptainShuddup says

All the people worth a shit is working now. That's the Liberal's damn story and they are sticking with it.

If you aren't working, then you really have a job, you're a full time Liberal token and political fodder as a professional entitlement citizen. Please report to HUD, SNAP and ACA to get your certification.

Yes. Unemployment is the fault of liberals.

If only we could lower taxes on corporations and the rich, and also lower the minimum wage. The cost of living would have to drop right ? How else could those poor folks making less money live ? OF course the cost of living dropping makes the dollar worth more, which is kind of a bonus for the rich who would simultaneously have more money. while it's also worth more. That would be awesome for them.

It's a WIN WIN WIN situation, Everybody wins !!! It's kind of like perpetual motion devices..Those machines work, but the liberals have outlawed them and are keeping those technologies secret in order to fuck over the middle class.

marcus says

Yes. Unemployment is the fault of liberals.

If only we could lower taxes on corporations and the rich, and also lower the minimum wage. The cost of living would have to drop right ? How else could those poor folks making less money live ?

How about not making these poor folks pay for your Rich Man's Pension? You do realize, while you are sipping Pina Colada in Waikiki, these poor folks will be working to pay your bill + 20% tip.

Strategist says

How about not making these poor folks pay for your Rich Man's Pension? You do realize, while you are sipping Pina Colada in Waikiki, these poor folks will be working to pay your bill + 20% tip.

Well, if I teach until I'm 68, my pension will be a little less than half my current income, so not quite sure how I'll afford that trip, unless I save a lot too. I will have only taught 20 years at that point.

I've tried to explain to you guys too many times, how this works, I contribute, from my wages and as a form of wages, the district and the state contribute as well. It's just part of my pay. Yes, after twenty years it will then pay me an annuity, well below my cost of living, unless I move somewhere far less expensive.

To hear you idiots complain about it, it's some largess from the government that's totally undeserved. If it's such a great deal, why didn't you become a teacher, or perhaps a mailman, or a cop, or a career officer in the military ?

The problem is a lack of planning on the part of the govt, deferred payments into pension funds, and yes some deals that have been too costly, especially in local governments that voted themselves (high level bureaucrats especially) ridiculous pensions. There should be caps, and stricter rules about pension spiking. But the idea that teacher pensions are extravagant is totally looney tunes.

marcus says

Well, if I teach until I'm 68, my pension will be a little less than half my current income, so not quite sure how I'll afford that trip, unless I save a lot too. I will have only taught 20 years at that point.

so you agree government workers should not be able to retire at age 55, with 100% pay for the rest of their lives?

marcus says

I've tried to explain to you guys too many times, how this works, I contribute, from my wages and as a form of wages, the district and the state contribute as well. It's just part of my pay. Yes, after twenty years it will then pay me an annuity, well below my cost of living, unless I move somewhere far less expensive.

We know how it works. Form a union - resort to blackmail - politicians submit - tax payer gets screwed - let the cycle repeat.

Call it Crazy says

Actually, it's a QUADfecta.... 4 in a row.... What are the odds???

WINNING!!!!

Oh look there is Marcus Pentafecta

marcus says

The problem is a lack of planning on the part of the govt, deferred payments into pension funds, and yes some deals that have been too costly, especially in local governments that voted themselves (high level bureaucrats especially) ridiculous pensions. There should be caps, and stricter rules about pension spiking. But the idea that teacher pensions are extravagant is totally looney tunes.

Those "some deals" are called "living wages" by the unions.
Your "living wages" is our Living Hell.

Strategist says

Those "some deals" are called "living wages" by the unions.

Your "living wages" is our Living Hell.

No, those aren't the deals I'm talking about. But hey, if you don't understand the impact that lowering all government wages would have on private sector salaries, I can't help you.

Strategist says

so you agree government workers should not be able to retire at age 55, with 100% pay for the rest of their lives?

Would you agree first that the only one that could ever do that would be a so called "safety worker," that is, police or firemen, . or possibly someone in the military.

And then, only if they started at close to age twenty (paying in for 35 years).

marcus says

Strategist says

Those "some deals" are called "living wages" by the unions.


Your "living wages" is our Living Hell.

No, those aren't the deals I'm talking about. But hey, if you don't understand the impact that lowering all government wages would have on private sector salaries, I can't help you.

Let me tell you the real impact of lower government wages:
1. Less Deficits.
2. Less Taxes.
3. More fairness.
4. More equality.
5. More jobs for everyone.

marcus says

Would you agree first that the only one that could ever do that would be a so called "safety worker," that is, police or firemen, . or possibly someone in the military.

And then, only if they started at close to age twenty (paying in for 35 years).

Absolutely not. They already get above average wages, lots of overtime, good pensions, and amazing life insurance.
Here is my point.....government workers should not get, and do not deserve to get, more than what the average tax payer gets. Why are are you so special?

Strategist says

Let me tell you the real impact of lower government wages:

Cut the pensions of cops and end all warfare spending. That will shrink the government sector the most.

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

Let me tell you the real impact of lower government wages:

Cut the pensions of cops and end all warfare spending. That will shrink the government sector the most.

We can't afford to cut off all military spending. Cuba would invade us.

We can easily afford to cut 90% of it.