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marcus says

For one thing, even you must find some things to be in poor taste.

There is one and only one rule in humor: don't pick on the weak. That's it. Everything else is fair game. The less appropriate the better. Humor is not suppose to be appropriate. It's suppose to push the envelope.

marcus says

How can you not care ?

Life's too short to limit your experiences in order to conform to what other people think they should be.

Dan8267 says

Life's too short to limit your experiences in order to conform to what other people think they should be.

Again, not the point of manners.

Are you going to tell me that if some very cool people that might have some interesting ideas to share, or who might even learn from you on one of your better days, were turned off to the forum because of what you or sbh calls low brow humor, and they left, that that's their problem ?

I suppose it is. But if it affects the quality of the forum ? I think it disrespects Patrick (not that he cares at this point).

What if you threw a party, and some guy there was such a jerk that it made most of the women there think it was a fucked up party ?

marcus says

"that's racist !"

I wonder what they'd say about this:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/gfNhiRGQ-js

The very point he's making about the "N" word is in fact what has happened with the "F" word which would have caused apoplexy if used in public before 1965.

marcus says

Again, not the point of manners.

Now you are trying to make a false equivalency. A low brow joke told at the expense of a racist, vile troll is not "bad manners". We're not eating diner at a fine restaurant.

If you don't like the joke, that's fine, not everyone has to find the same thing funny, but don't deprive others of it. Laughter is the most honest expression.

P N Dr Lo R says

I wonder what they'd say about this:

I think Marcus would call it bad manners. Ironic given the original post of this thread.

By the way, Lenny Bruce was a genius and absolutely right about the power of the word "nigger" being destroyed if it were commonly used and in a non-demeaning way. It's like he foresaw the African-American re-purposing of the word to rob it of its power.

Dan8267 says

not everyone has to find the same thing funny

True enough. My idea of being funny (or attempt at being funny) was when I said:

marcus says

Stay classy Dan

Dan8267 says

I think Marcus would call it bad manners

No, Lenny Bruce was a creative comedian/performance artist, and he had a point beyond shock value. And people went to his performance expecting to be shocked. It's not what many of the people here are here for.

Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, Howard Stern. It's always the people pushing the envelope of what it acceptable that give the rest of us the breathing room to be honest.

you must 'be', before you can 'stay'...

marcus says

Stay classy Dan.

Dan8267 says

Howard Stern

When I used to work in Dallas I had a four mile drive straight across on Mockingbird Lane and I got to listen to Howard Stern for just 30 minutes but by the time I'd pulled into the garage I was convulsed laughing. I still think of his routines with Robin and Baba-Booey--nothing or no one was off limits!

George was by far the most immoral. Sniveling coward of a man. We were laughing with everyone else. But George, everyone was laughing at his expense.

Newman was a turd but at least he was self sufficient financially and put in a days work, albeit half assing it.

This thread was an absolute train wreck. That hydro cabron idiot intentionally drenched his ass backwards takes in sarcasm to make it difficult to argue with him.

And Marcus, good grief, I’ve rarely met such a confused person. I about died of laughter when I found out he was emailing IWOG for mental and emotional support.

2015...

this was when "political correctness" was starting to get really crazy. I recall discussions w/ friends and coworkers about it.

Not sure the exact year, but the crazy unreasonable "PC" shit soon was called wokeness.

Interesting that it wasn't the debates over how to spend money, origin of life, etc. that made the die hard lefties on the board quit, but feelings about Trump and what he might do, Gays and Trannies, etc.

The very thing Lefties and Hard Liberals said was not a big deal, just "Cultural", was the shit they flounced over.

Basically the woke crowd left when they realized that there were people here who would not accept their bullying anymore.

Hircus says

2015...

this was when "political correctness" was starting to get really crazy. I recall discussions w/ friends and coworkers about it.

I have the same recollection and discussions. It was coming out of the schools in a big way at that time. The media grabbed onto it.

I saw a bar chart a while back counting the number of times the media discussed 'race' and it spiked (never dropped) around that time as well.

NDrLoR says

When I used to work in Dallas I had a four mile drive straight across on Mockingbird Lane and I got to listen to Howard Stern for just 30 minutes but by the time I'd pulled into the garage I was convulsed laughing. I still think of his routines with Robin and Baba-Booey--nothing or no one was off limits!

What a bitch ass punk Howard Stern turned out to be. But I suspected his true Scumbag potential the way he vocally and publicly chose his radio audience and career over his wife and family. Those were not the actions of a Man, but a little sniveling shit mouse.

Hircus says

2015...

this was when "political correctness" was starting to get really crazy... the crazy unreasonable "PC" shit soon was called wokeness.

The Political Correctness was in full swing and going off the rails, way back in 2007 when I first came to Patnet by the Liberal cabal here.
You are correct though it was around 2015 it morphed into being conscripted into the Commie cause and rebranded as Woke.

In 2007 I was amazed how everything you said or typed could be construed as politically incorrect and fulcrum point for those that were incensed to attack and assault your character. I gained a deep understanding of the modern Liberal from here, it collided with the lessons my father and History teachers taught me about how to spot a Commie.

Looking back though, I now realize I was attacked here for saying the modern Socialist and Democrats are walking a razor thin line to Commie town. Because I was spot on and it annoyed the shit out of them I was blowing their cover.

Or it could have just been the broken clock syndrome, after years of calling every asshole I came across in my life a "Pinko Commie Shit Bird". I finally found the mother lode at Patnet.

Tenpoundbass says

Pinko Commie Shit Bird

lol

Tenpoundbass says

Looking back though, I now realize I was attacked here for saying the modern Socialist and Democrats are walking a razor thin line to Commie town. Because I was spot on and it annoyed the shit out of them I was blowing their cover.

When was this? I would have attacked you in 2007 for saying this kind of crap, because the Republican party used "commie" in the same way that the Democrats now use the word "fascist".

It was just a smear and a very hypocritical one at that. The Bush administration implemented nationwide surveillance, they attacked political opponents using the IRS, they implemented the widespread use of propaganda. They bailed out the banks if you recall. They were communists then, just like Antifa are fascists. I remember when Al-Jazeera was taken off the net during the Iraq war. I remember them attacking Wikileaks and Julian Assange for telling the truth.

I would say both parties are simply authoritarian, and communism / fascism - they don't care which one wins. As long as it's complete and total oppression.

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I wanted to rewatch "PCU" (1994) tonight but it is unavailable on streaming and is out of print on disc.

I wonder why...