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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2015 Aug 3, 11:47am
The police can be corrupt. Plain and simple. Unfortunately on Pat.net you have US haters who confuse the issue by citing instances where the cops actually are doing their jobs correctly and bizarrely citing those instances as supposed police misconduct.
It's a shame because there are cops who do really commit criminal acts such as in the article indigenous posted and are deserving of the spotlight.
RWSGFY
2015 Aug 3, 6:02pm
What else is exposed through the same lens is the stupidity of these being stopped for minor infractions and deciding to escalate it by swearing/running/fighting etc.
indigenous
2015 Aug 3, 6:53pm
It goes both ways, but it would appear that it is getting worse, but that has to related to ubiquitous cell phones. But there does seem to be a dearth of statistics?
lostand confused
2015 Aug 3, 8:02pm
Don't they have an IQ test for cops?? This dude had a body cam and then after that goes and convinces his buddies to lie for him? Didn't he realize the evidence was taped???
indigenous
2015 Aug 3, 8:04pm
What I do know is that I don't know, there appears to be a paucity of statistics on this? I do know that when government agencies permeate a function in society they tend to abuse it. Why would you think that policing is an anomaly?
I have listened to a Long Beach cop describe going to certain areas of South Central LA, as going to flush the toilet. Whether this predisposes them to abuse I don't know.
I do know that a certain element of society is attracted to police work so they are predisposed to violence because of this. This is my empirical observation from talking to cops.
Of course the media skews everything it shines a light on they certainly do regarding economics and politics. It would be stupid to trust them on this subject.
It would be nice to see some facts.
Y
2015 Aug 3, 8:49pm
It's almost like they are doing it on purpose....suicide by cop to escape the ghetto and become famous??
What else is exposed through the same lens is the stupidity of these being stopped for minor infractions and deciding to escalate it by swearing/running/fighting etc
indigenous
2015 Aug 3, 10:30pm
I won't disagree as in the Rodney King case the cops would have been well within their rights to have shot him because of what led up to the "beating"
The gang leaders are the ones who instigated the riots in the LA riots.
However there is undeniably abuse going on, how much, what are the trends, what are the hot spots, how much of it has to do with drugs, is it systemic, don't know?
Are you saying the cases of civil forfeiture are embellished? Are you saying we are not becoming a police state? Are you saying that we are not be nannied? Are you saying that traffic violations have not been raised beyond ridiculous? (I got a ticket for not wearing a seat-belt a few years ago the ticket was $172.00) Are you saying that plea bargaining is not abused by the DA and the Police? Why is it that the US has more prisoners per ca-pita than any other country? How is that possible without abuse?
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Like I said it would be nice to see some facts.
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2015 Aug 4, 7:38am
Hi,
97-98% of complaints filed by the public are crap. Make believe stuff. So out of say 4000 publicly filed complaints against a big city police department, maybe 80-120 have any merit whatsoever. Keep in mind that most incidents nowadays have at least an audio recording, if not video.
Out of that 80-120, most are discourtesy or other minor misconduct. But about 15-40 are bad. Real bad. So either large suspensions(10+ days) or terminations.
Point being that actual terminations and suspensions are a good measure. Gross number of complaints filed is not.
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2015 Aug 4, 7:42am
Why is it that the US has more prisoners per ca-pita than any other country? How is that possible without abuse?
Illegal aliens(30% of California's prison population) + drug war + black culture spurred by great society programs.
Seriously, some of the liberal morons need to meet some of the multi generational families that dwell in LA's housing projects. It's like they've devolved to the Stone Age.
Strategist
2015 Aug 4, 7:49am
I have listened to a Long Beach cop describe going to certain areas of South Central LA, as going to flush the toilet.
What type of upstanding citizens was he encountering there?
Addressing crime as shit that needs to be flushed seems very accurate to me.
South Central is a high crime ghetto where Angels fear to tread. They may as well build a wall around it and turn it into the world's largest prison.
Don't they have an IQ test for cops?
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Yes, they have to be dumb as fuck so they don't question anything. Just obey and follow orders (to terrorize the citizenry) so they can serve and protect the interests of the privileged. They need the people to fear them
indigenous
2015 Aug 4, 9:50am
Illegal aliens(30% of California's prison population) + drug war + black culture spurred by great society programs.
Link?
It would be nice to see some facts on this.
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2015 Aug 4, 11:18am
My mistake. 13% of California prison population is illegal. It's FEDERAL prisons that are over 30% illegals and that includes people being detained for deportation. I can't post links easily from a phone, but if you google "what percent of California prison population is illegal", both the state and federal numbers are in the first few links.
As to the black issue...I presume that 50% of black men arrested is sufficient to prove that.
I also presume if you run the percentage of black males incarcerated in say the 1950's vs today you'll find a massive change.
As to drugs, I have no idea how to find that information...sheer numbers incarcerated due to drug crimes compared to other nations.
Police Brutality Exposed Through "Lens of Video"; Cincinnati Prosecutor "When I indict a murderer, I don't pull punches"
Progression of the Police State U.S. Style
More national spotlights are on unwarranted police brutality this week. Let's start with a statement made by a Cincinnati prosecutor who charged a police officer with murder.
Prosecutor Joseph T. Deters became a national hero by stating 'When I indict a murderer, I don't pull punches'
To put it simply, Joseph T. Deters, a law-and-order Republican from Hamilton County, Ohio, is not a prosecutor who's known for sending cops to jail.
When he announced Wednesday that he had obtained a grand jury indictment for murder against a police officer in the shooting of an unarmed black motorist, Deters, 58, became an instant celebrity.
His expressions of disgust and dismay at the traffic stop that left a motorist with a fatal gunshot wound to the head spread rapidly across social media.
“I've reviewed probably 100 police shootings. This was bad from the start, and you know, he's going to have to answer for it — that's the bottom line,” he said in an interview Thursday, referring to the officer involved. “I think it was a murder… I think we'll win this case.”
“This is the most asinine act I've ever seen a police officer make,” the blue-eyed, silver-haired prosecutor told reporters, before showing Tensing's body-camera video of the shooting. “Totally unwarranted. It's an absolute tragedy in the year 2015 that anyone would behave in this manner.”
Across the country, many activists who have taken on the issue of police violence against African Americans seemed to be caught off guard.
“I have sincerely never seen a white prosecutor in my entire life as outraged as [prosecutor] Deters is right now about this unjustified police murder,” Shaun King, a prominent social-media activist who monitors police shootings, wrote Wednesday on Twitter.
A top police union official said he was also surprised.
“Some of the remarks he made were way out of line,” said Jay McDonald, president of the Ohio Fraternal Order of Police, which has 25,000 members and will provide Tensing's legal defense.
Not Surprised at All
I am not at all surprised by the statements made by Jay McDonald, president of the Ohio Fraternal Order of Police.
Teachers' unions defend child molesters and police unions defend murderers. No one should be surprised by unions defending their clan.
When told that union officials had disagreed with his remarks, Deters didn't flinch.
“Too bad,” he said Thursday. “When I indict a murderer, I don't pull punches.”
Deters called it “outrageous” that a traffic stop for a missing front license plate should lead to an “execution.”
“And if they don't like it, they shouldn't be police officers, and if they don't want to endorse me again, I couldn't give a s—,” Deters said of union officials.
“This was a flat-out murder, you know?” he said. “If you don't see what this is, you shouldn't be in law enforcement. I think it's horrible. That could've been your kid, my brother. I just think it's horrendous.”
Deters On Marijuana
Deters has also questioned whether marijuana should be illegal, and chaired a task force this year to examine the drug's legalization.
“We were just shocked by that — absolutely shocked by that — especially given his background and what he's done before,” said Marcie Seidel, executive director of Drug Free Action Alliance, a Columbus-based anti-drug group.
Deters says he is concerned that marijuana charges tend to “skew” more toward the black community. “I would rather a guy smoke a joint than drink a bottle of vodka.... I don't have any problem legalizing it at all,” he said.
This guy gets my endorsement for both positions.
Police Brutality Exposed Through "Lens of Video"
The New York Times has a video of the Cincinnati murder as well as numerous other police brutality cases. Please have a look.
Read more at http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2015/08/police-brutality-exposed-through-lens.html#tjkAQm6gpzrbPj6c.99
http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000003828834/the-videos-that-changed-policing.html?action=click>ype=vhs&version=vhs-heading&module=vhs®ion=video-area&video-click-enabled=true&t=3&cview=true