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Gazprom is circling the toilet.


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2015 Aug 12, 6:34pm   28,454 views  170 comments

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How Russian energy giant Gazprom lost $300bn.

It was not too long ago that Gazprom, Russia’s state-controlled energy conglomerate, was one of the Kremlin’s most powerful weapons. But those days now seem like a distant memory. Today, Gazprom is a financial shadow of its former self.

The speed of Gazprom’s decline is breathtaking. At its peak in May 2008, the company’s market capitalisation reached $367bn (£237bn), making it one of world’s most valuable companies, according to a survey compiled by the Financial Times. Only fellow Exxonmobile and PetroChina were worth more. Gazprom’s deputy chair Alexander Medvedev repeatedly predicted that within a decade the Russian energy giant could be worth $1 trillion.

That prediction now seems foolhardy. Since 2008, Gazprom’s value has plummeted. In early August it had a market capitalisation of $51bn – losing more than $300bn. No company among the world’s top 5,000 has suffered a bigger collapse, Bloomberg Business News reported in April 2014, and by the end of the year net income had fallen by an astonishing 86%.

Though share prices have rallied slightly since, indicators suggest Gazprom has further to fall. Lingering uncertainty raises questions about whether it can survive, with production continuing to tumble downward.

So what happened? Why is a company with the world’s largest gas reserves, operating in a country bordering China and the European Union – two of the world’s top energy consumers, performing so badly?"

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/07/gazprom-oil-company-share-price-collapse

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131   Ceffer   2022 Jul 5, 9:10am  

Death of many Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs gangland style is strange, but not much info on it. A Ukrainian oligarch killed in London, two Russian oligarchs killed with families, claimed 'suicide'. I wonder if it is some kind of purge of Globalists by Russia, but nobody seems to have any theories on this.
132   Eric Holder   2022 Jul 5, 11:38am  

Ceffer says

A Ukrainian oligarch killed in London


Who?
134   RWSGFY   2022 Jul 5, 12:30pm  

Ceffer says

Eric Holder says



Who?

Hung in garage.
https://nypost.com/2022/03/03/ukrainian-oligarch-mikhail-watford-found-dead-in-uk-mansion/



Nice try, but one death of unrelated to Gazprom guy doesn't suddenly make the string of Gazprom-related deaths into something else. The fact remains: Gazprom-related guys are dropping like flies recently.
135   Eric Holder   2022 Jul 27, 2:00pm  

The largest Austrian gas storage operator RAG Austria AG has finally taken over the management of the country's largest gas storage facility "Haidach" in Salzburg, which was previously managed by the Russian company "Gazprom".

This is reported by Kroner Zeitung.

The Austrian government made the decision to take away the Heydach storage facility from Gazprom due to the lack of blue fuel. Austrian legislation allows the use of all storage facilities in the country in the event of a gas shortage, while the Russian company kept Haydach empty.

As the Minister of Climate Protection of Austria, Leonore Gewessler, reported on Tuesday, RAG Austria AG has already started booking gas storage capacity, and will start filling it from August 1.

"Filled gas storages are our insurance for the coming winter. Therefore, it is first of all important that all storages in Austria are full," she said.

The chairman of RAG Austria AG, Markus Mitteregger, agreed with the minister: "It is now clear how fundamental energy storage is for a secure energy supply throughout the year in Austria and Central Europe. Large volumes and seasonal storage in our underground storage facilities are an important element in ensuring this today and tomorrow." .

Back in May, he warned the Chancellor of Austria that the storage facility in Salzburg would be handed over to other suppliers if Gazprom did not fill it with gas.


(g-translated)
136   Misc   2022 Jul 27, 3:01pm  

Oh no, how is Gazprom going to make any money at all selling only 20% of what it did just a few months ago.

Ahhhhhhhhh, those nice Western nations already came up with the answer...simply don't let them buy anything with the money they give for the gas.

Prices could also triple putting them back to square one with the amount of currency they get from the Europeans.

The Russians have also lowered their interest rate below where it was before Feb. 24, but the Rouble is still up against the dollar, which is up vs pretty much every other currency. The Europeans raised their interest rate to zero percent, but the ECB is still buying bonds like crazy, so basically they are just printing the money with no plans to stop the printing.
137   Eric Holder   2022 Aug 16, 3:26pm  

From January 1 to August 15, 2022, Gazprom produced 274.8 billion cubic meters of gas, which is 13.2% or 41.7 billion cubic meters. m less than in the same period last year.

This was reported by the press service of the Russian company.

Gazprom clarifies that gas exports to far-off countries fell by 36.2% or 44.6 billion cubic meters during this period. m - up to 78.5 billion cubic meters. m.

During this period, the company's demand for gas from the gas transportation system in the domestic market of Russia decreased by 2.3% (by 3.6 billion cubic meters).
138   Eric Holder   2022 Aug 16, 3:27pm  

Misc says


Oh no, how is Gazprom going to make any money at all selling only 20% of what it did just a few months ago.


Yes, losing market share is a GOOD thing!!! Ask any business. The Big Three would be especially happy to chime in.
139   Misc   2022 Aug 16, 9:35pm  

Gazprom seems in better shape than the European energy companies.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-18/europe-power-firms-debt-soars-to-1-7-trillion-on-energy-crisis

There is no hope of repaying this. They doubled their debt in 2 fucking years. This added an extra $850 billion in debt. Yes, this is after they have increased the cost for energy to where it is just not economical for a large swath of the populous. They are looking at an escalating amount of debt and even higher prices across the continent including the UK.

Only 27 UK energy companies have gone bust so far this year

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/jan/18/bristol-energy-owner-is-latest-uk-supplier-to-go-bust
140   richwicks   2022 Aug 16, 9:44pm  

Eric Holder says

Misc says



Oh no, how is Gazprom going to make any money at all selling only 20% of what it did just a few months ago.


Yes, losing market share is a GOOD thing!!! Ask any business. The Big Three would be especially happy to chime in.


If you owned a commodity production company, would you rather

1) sell X units of product at the price of Y per unit
2) sell 0.5X units of product at the price of 2Y per unit?

https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/natural-gas-price?op=1

There will be energy interruptions in Europe in 5 months, provided this stupid war isn't resolved by then.
141   RWSGFY   2022 Sep 3, 9:52am  



https://twitter.com/DanielKral1/status/1565656026921197568

(For our slow friend: there is no video here).
142   Eric Holder   2022 Sep 6, 5:45pm  

The share of Russian gas in the European market since the beginning of the year has decreased from 50% to 9%, said French President Emmanuel Macron. As the French leader noted at a press conference in Paris, at the beginning of the year, "25% of all European energy came from gas, of which 50% was gas from Russia." “Now its share has dropped to 9%,” Macron said.


WHEN YOUR MARKET SHARE IS DROPPING 5X IT MEANS YOU"RE WINNING!!!!
143   Eric Holder   2022 Sep 9, 10:54am  

National Joint Stock Company “Naftogaz of Ukraine” has filed a Request for Arbitration with the International Court of Arbitration of the International Chamber of Commerce in Paris regarding the actions of PJSC “Gazprom” (Russian Federation). The venue for arbitration is Zurich, Switzerland.

Naftogaz demands that Gazprom pay for the rendered service of organising natural gas transportation through the territory of Ukraine. Funds were not paid by Gazprom, neither on time nor in full.

Naftogaz CEO Yuriy Vitrenko commented: “We will make Gazprom pay. Naftogaz also assesses the possibility of additional claims. We will use our experience of victories over Gazprom in arbitration”.


https://www.naftogaz.com/en/news/new-arbitration-proceeding-against-gazprom
144   RWSGFY   2022 Oct 12, 11:49am  

Germany flatly rejected an offer from Russian President Vladimir Putin to renew exports of natural gas through the Nord Stream 2 pipeline Wednesday.

Putin's offer comes as Russia is limiting exports of oil and gas to Europe in response to weighty sanctions from NATO countries over the invasion of Ukraine. Germany pointed to Russia's limiting of natural gas supplies through the Nord Stream 1 pipeline in its response, saying Russia is not a "reliable" supplier.

"Nice try," government spokeswoman Christiane Hoffmann told reporters of Putin's offer. "Independently of the possible sabotage of the two pipelines, we have seen that Russia is no longer a reliable energy supplier, and that even before the damage to Nord Stream 1 there was no longer any gas flowing."

"So for us, there is no reason to believe that that would change," she added.
145   RWSGFY   2023 Feb 14, 6:43am  

NOVY URENGOY, Russia (Reuters) - Meticulously crafted over decades as a major revenue stream for the Kremlin, Moscow’s gas trade with Europe is unlikely to recover from the ravages of military conflict.
After President Vladimir Putin’s “special military operation” in Ukraine began almost a year ago, a combination of Western sanctions and Russia’s decision to cut supplies to Europe drastically reduced the country’s energy exports.
The latest sanctions, including price caps, are likely to disrupt oil trade further but it is easier to find new markets for crude and refined products than for gas.
Russia’s gas trade with Europe has been based on thousands of miles of pipes beginning in Siberia and stretching to Germany and beyond. Until last year, they locked Western buyers into a long-term supply relationship.
“Of course, the loss of the European market is a very serious test for Russia in the gas aspect,” Yury Shafranik, Russian fuel and energy minister from 1993 to 1996, told Reuters.

...


Wait for it...



A former senior manager at Gazprom was more direct.
“The work of hundreds of people, who for decades built the exporting system, now has been flushed down the toilet,” the former manager told Reuters on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.

...


Beavis, he said "toilet"!



...

According to Reuters’ estimates, based on export fees and export volumes data, Gazprom’s revenues from overseas sales were around $3.4 billion in January down from $6.3 billion in the same period last year.

The figures, combined with forecasts of exports and average gas prices, imply Gazprom’s exporting revenues will almost halve this year, widening the $25 billion budget deficit Russia posted in January.
Already, the company’s natural gas exports last year almost halved to reach a post-Soviet low and the downward trend has continued this year.
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen estimated Russia cut 80% of gas supplies to the EU in the eight months after the conflict began in Ukraine.
As a result, Russia supplied only around 7.5% of western Europe’s gas needs by the end of last year, compared with around 40% in 2021.

Before the conflict, Russia had been confident of selling more to Europe, not less.
Elena Burmistrova, the head of Gazprom’s exporting unit, told an industry event in Vienna in 2019 the company’s record-high exports outside Soviet Union of more than 200 billion cubic metres (bcm) achieved in 2018 were the “new reality”.
Last year, the total was just above 100 bcm.

...

Russia is also seeking to boost its pipeline gas sales to China, the world’s largest energy consumer and top buyer of crude oil, liquefied natural gas (LNG) and coal.

Supplies began via the Power of Siberia Pipeline in late 2019 and Russia aims to raise the annual exports to around 38 bcm from 2025.
Moscow also has an agreement with Beijing for another 10 bcm per year from a yet-to-be built pipeline from the Pacific island of Sakhalin, while Russia is also developing plans for Power of Siberia 2 from Western Siberia, which in theory could supply an additional 50 bcm per year to China.
Whether that relationship can be as lucrative as the decades of supplying gas to Europe remains to be seen.
...
The negotiations with China on new gas sales are expected to be complex, not least because China is not expected to need additional gas until after 2030, industry analysts said.
Russia also faces far more competition than in the past from renewable energy as the world seeks to limit the impact of climate change, as well as rival pipeline gas supplies to China, including from Turkmenistan.


Solid 100 bcm lost now vs theoretical 38 bcm by 2025 and even more theoretical 60 bcm in 2030 after spending billions on new pipelines. Bwahahahaha.

But there might be Nazis in Turkmenistan...

LNG, which can be shipped anywhere in the world, has further reduced the need for pipeline gas.
Gazprom and China have kept their agreed gas price a secret. Ron Smith, analyst at Moscow-based BCS brokerage, expected the price for 2022 to average $270 per 1,000 cubic metres, much lower than prices in Europe.
It is also below Gazprom’s export price of $700 per 1,000 cubic metres, expected by Russian Economy Ministry this year.


Good luck with that, Skippy.

https://apple.news/AE4on1HqkTW2rQQoeM0Udow
146   richwicks   2023 Feb 14, 6:58am  

Eric Holder says

WHEN YOUR MARKET SHARE IS DROPPING 5X IT MEANS YOU"RE WINNING!!!!


It's a commodity, it's determined by availability, not by the producer, since any producer can replace another. It's an entirely fungible market.

It's likely that Russia is selling oil and natural gas through 3rd party intermediaries to Europe and at the same time, the Russian government has no idea who is doing this. If they did, they should cut Europe off entirely and force Europe to source from the Middle East and the United States. It's almost certain US criminals are being the intermediaries between Russia and Europe.
147   Eric Holder   2023 Mar 21, 1:02pm  

Russian blog (g-translated):

Putin said that by 2030 Russia would supply China with at least 98 billion cubic meters of gas and 100 million tons of LNG. Putting aside the question that Russia's dependence on oil and gas remains a key problem. ... The declared volumes are 236 billion cubic meters of gas in terms of a single volume. For 9 years. That is, the average volume of supplies will be 26 billion cubic meters per year. Solid.

You need to understand that the lost European market gave sales volumes of about 150 billion cubic meters per year, of which about 30 are left with the prospect of losing another 20 billion in the next couple of years. Loss - 120 billion a year with a prospect of 140 billion.


https://el-murid.livejournal.com/5293170.html
148   Eric Holder   2023 May 25, 5:44pm  

Polish pipeline operator seeks €1.3 billion from Russia’s Gazprom for ending supplies

MAY 19, 2023

The owner of the Polish section of the Yamal gas pipeline, EuRoPol Gaz, is seeking over 6 billion zloty (€1.3 billion) compensation from Gazprom for losses accrued due to the Russian state energy giant halting gas deliveries last year.

The news that EuRoPol Gaz has filed a claim at the Arbitration Institute of the Stockholm Chamber of Commerce was reported by Business Insider Polska yesterday and later confirmed by state assets minister Jacek Sasin.

The firm is demanding repayment of 848 million zloty of gas transmission fees from 2006 to 2009 redeemed to Gazprom in 2010 on the condition that the Russian operator would transmit gas until 2045 and that the Polish company would make money on these transmissions.

In addition, EuRoPol Gaz estimates around 5.4 billion zloty in revenue from gas transmission charges by 2045 lost due to Gazprom halting gas shipments to Poland in April last year following Warsaw’s refusal to pay for the fuel in roubles.

Documents seen by the Polish Press Agency (PAP) show that EuRoPol Gaz called on Gazprom at the end of April to pay the claimed amounts. After the Russian firm refused, EuRoPol Gaz applied for arbitration on 9 May. Gazprom has not yet publicly commented.

...

In a previous dispute, in 2020 the Stockholm arbitration tribunal ordered Gazprom to pay PGNiG, a Polish state gas firm, 6 billion zloty for charging it prices for gas that did not reflect the realities of the market.
..


https://notesfrompoland.com/2023/05/19/polish-pipeline-operator-seeks-e1-3-billion-from-russias-gazprom-for-ending-supplies/

Ah, if only there was an underwater pipeline somewhere that could conveniently burst in a timely matter creating force majeure cituation thus saving Gazprom from this kind of claims.... Alas, the pipeline to Poland is on land.
149   Eric Holder   2023 May 25, 5:46pm  

LNG deal: GAIL seeks damages from Gazprom

Synopsis

GAIL India is seeking compensation from Gazprom Marketing and Trading Singapore after the latter reneged on a commitment to supply fully contracted liquified natural gas (LNG) last year. GAIL Chairman SK Gupta has said the company has filed for arbitration in London, stating, “We have nominated our arbitrator. We are pressing for specific performance (of the contract) and to claim damages”. Though supplies have resumed with GAIL eceiving the contracted quantity, it has decided to pursue legal action.



Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/energy/oil-gas/lng-deal-gail-seeks-damages-from-gazprom/articleshow/100367941.cms
150   RWSGFY   2024 Jan 1, 12:26pm  

Gas exports from Russia fell back to 1985 levels - Moscow Times

In order to somehow compensate for the losses, Gazprom decided to raise tariffs within the country.

Due to the full-scale invasion of the Russian Federation into Ukraine, the Russian gas monopolist Gazprom lost the largest foreign market for its supplies, which before the war provided 80% of exports and two-thirds of Gazprom's revenue. In this way, the Russian gas monopoly has rolled back almost four decades into the past, writes the Moscow Times.


This is what happens when you're cosplaying Hitler in Czechoslovakia circa 1938 but Czechoslovakia refuses to fold this time.

Not that USSR in 1985 was in such a great shape either.
151   RWSGFY   2024 Jan 1, 12:34pm  

Gazprom, once a dominant player in the global gas market, faces a stark reality as it grapples with the consequences of Russia’s geopolitical maneuvers. The Russian gas monopoly’s attempt to leverage energy supplies in the Ukraine conflict has backfired, resulting in a severe contraction of its export market and financial stability.

In a dramatic setback, Gazprom’s gas exports have plunged to their lowest level since 1985, reaching only 69 billion cubic meters in 2023. This represents a drastic reduction from the 185 billion cubic meters exported in the pre-war period of 2021 and a significant drop from the already troubling figures of 2022, which amounted to 100.9 billion cubic metres. The company’s European market, which previously accounted for 80% of its exports and two-thirds of its revenue, has dwindled to a fraction of its former volume.

Europe’s shift away from Russian gas, a reaction to the Ukraine conflict, has left Gazprom with a diminished presence in its most lucrative market. Its exports to Europe have regressed to levels last seen in the 1970s, starkly contrasting with the heights reached in previous decades. Despite efforts to pivot towards China, the gains made through the Power of Siberia pipeline are insufficient, covering merely an eighth of the lost European Union exports.

Gazprom’s hopes are now pinned on expanding its Chinese market, proposing a fivefold increase in sales. However, these ambitions face significant challenges. China’s demand for imported gas is expected to grow by only 80 billion cubic meters by 2030, with contracts already in place for supplies from other sources.

The impending expiration of Gazprom’s transit contract through Ukraine in 2024 further complicates the picture, potentially exacerbating the decline in European supplies. Experts like VEB chief economist Andrei Klepach are skeptical of Gazprom’s ability to recoup these massive losses, even with planned contracts with China.

Compounding these export challenges, Gazprom faces tough negotiations with China over the proposed Power of Siberia-2 pipeline. China’s insistence on heavy discounts and refusal to share construction costs puts additional strain on Gazprom’s already weakened financial position.

To mitigate these financial pressures, Russian authorities are resorting to significant domestic gas tariff hikes, further burdening its citizenry. Once newly proposed hikes are complete, the tariffs will have risen by 34% since the start of the war. These measures, however, may not suffice to offset the looming trillion-ruble losses anticipated by energy committee head Pavel Zavalny, as Gazprom navigates a landscape of shrinking exports and escalating costs.
152   RWSGFY   2024 May 3, 6:32am  

Russian energy giant Gazprom said on May 2 it suffered a record annual loss last year as the European market was practically shut off to its gas exports due to sanctions over Moscow's military operation in Ukraine. The state-owned firm suffered a net loss of 629 billion rubles ($6.9 billion) in 2023 compared to a net profit of 1.23 trillion rubles in 2022.
154   richwicks   2024 May 3, 7:16am  

personal
155   RWSGFY   2024 May 19, 10:22pm  

The most immediate impact of Gazprom's losses will be on Russian government revenues, a crucial metric to gauge Moscow’s ability to sustain its war against Ukraine. [...] Excluding dividends, Gazprom transferred at least $40 billion into Russian state coffers in 2022, either to the general government budget or the National Welfare Fund (NWF), Moscow's sovereign wealth fund.

This is no small feat. Until last year, Gazprom alone provided about 10 percent of Russian federal budget revenues through customs and excise duties as well as profit taxes. (Oil receipts usually account for an additional 30 percent of budget revenues.) This flood of money now looks like distant history. In 2023, the company's contribution to state coffers through customs and excise duties was slashed by four-fifths, and like many money-losing firms, it is due a tax refund from the Russian treasury.
156   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 May 19, 10:30pm  

richwicks says

Nothing indicates more that you are just an embarrassing mindless drone than to use the propaganda of our stupid propagandists.


It's true. Putin makes up for it in price.
157   AmericanKulak   2024 May 20, 5:00pm  

Word is Grazprom is dumping oil into India like crazy for minimal profit, just to keep the bills paid.
158   krc   2024 May 20, 5:57pm  

China will fund Russia's war in the Ukraine. It makes strategic sense - let the US continue to waste resources on a never ending war.
Low oil price buys Russia India's friendship as well. So I don't think revenue really matters.
China and Russia seem are getting closer month by month.
159   HeadSet   2024 May 20, 6:01pm  

AmericanKulak says

Word is Grazprom is dumping oil into India like crazy for minimal profit, just to keep the bills paid.

Gazprom sells oil?
160   RWSGFY   2024 May 20, 6:23pm  

HeadSet says

AmericanKulak says


Word is Grazprom is dumping oil into India like crazy for minimal profit, just to keep the bills paid.

Gazprom sells oil?


Yep, they have an oil subsidiary. Didn't save them from yuuuge losses though.
161   WookieMan   2024 May 21, 3:33pm  

krc says

Low oil price buys Russia India's friendship as well. So I don't think revenue really matters.
China and Russia seem are getting closer month by month.

India and Russia are not oil/gas consumers like Europe and the US. It's a market for sure, but Russia offers little else to those two countries. Specifically food. India and China are massive population centers, with poor land for agriculture. They can't feed their own people and Russia can't sweep in and feed them.

You need to feed your people. Russia can just give them gas and oil. That helps, but China and India need to be allied with countries that can feed them. Russia ain't that. US, Canada, Mexico and most of Europe use double the gas/oil China and India use combined. Basically Russia is gonna have some difficulty staying afloat without Europe. Russia has no value add. So China and India will never be 100% in camp Russia.
163   The_Deplorable   2024 May 21, 5:25pm  

WookieMan says
"Russia offers little else to those two countries. Specifically food."

Actually Russia is the No 1 wheat producer on the planet.
164   RWSGFY   2024 May 22, 7:36am  

Gazprom shares collapsed on the Moscow Exchange on Monday evening after it became known that the company would not pay dividends based on operating results in 2023.

Gazprom's stock sank by almost 6% and fell to 145.03 rubles - the lowest since October 2023. Against the backdrop of the decision of the Russian government, the largest shareholder of the gas monopoly, to prepare a directive on the refusal of payments, Gazprom’s capitalization decreased by 144 billion rubles, or almost $1.6 billion, in just over an hour.

Gazprom de facto has nothing to pay dividends with: last year, for the first time in 25 years, the company ended with a net loss, and its size - 629 billion rubles - became a record in three decades of its history. After the loss of the European market, Gazprom’s exports fell back to 1985 levels (69 billion cubic meters), and collapsed threefold relative to pre-war levels. Unable to sell gas, Gazprom was forced to freeze wells and in two years lost a quarter of production, the volume of which last year became the lowest in its history.

Having lost the gas war with Europe, Russian President Vladimir Putin is counting on China, offering it, in addition to the Power of Siberia pipeline, to build a second one - Power of Siberia-2 with a capacity of 50 billion cubic meters.

But Putin is unable to gain approval from Beijing, despite assurances of “friendship” and “strategic” partnership “without borders.” The Russian president's state visit to China last week was powerless to correct the situation. Putin did not receive a new contract, and Xi Jinping never mentioned Russian gas in official comments.

Even if Gazprom manages to agree with China on a new pipe, this will only worsen its financial position, MMI analysts write. Beijing does not want to invest a single yuan in the project, asking Russia to foot the multibillion-dollar construction bill on its own. Gazprom “will not have dividends for many, many years,” MMI warns: the company does not have enough operating cash flow to cover investment costs, and its debt burden is growing rapidly. Gazprom's net debt, that is, not covered by cash reserves, has reached 5.2 trillion rubles and already exceeds the size of the liquid part of the National Welfare Fund.


To have such a golden goose and to kill it over what - posession of ruins of some small towns along your Western border? 🤡
165   stereotomy   2024 May 22, 7:41am  

Kind of like what the US did for the banks for absolutely nothing but to preserve their ill gotten gains and absolve them of blame back in 2009.
166   Eric Holder   2024 Jun 18, 12:27pm  

The now German-nationalized gas contractor "Uniper" brought charges against Gazprom and won. The sentence requires that Russian Gazprom has to pay €13 billion compensation for not delivered natural gas. This sentence also cancels all ongoing contracts between Uniper and the Russian gas company.

Uniper has doubt that Gazprom will pay this bill and will likely write it off, but if Gazprom wants ever to make business in the Germany, their most lucrative market, they will not have choice than to foot the bill, plus interests. China will never be able to compensate, not even in the year 2035.

Russia's financial obligations are growing and growing without any hope that it will be reversed. In fact, it is painting an even bigger target on Putin's back. The war industry is only making things worse, since it produces products which are destroyed the very next month.


https://x.com/Tendar/status/1801166025611682158
167   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Jun 18, 7:29pm  

Eric Holder says

Russia's financial obligations are growing and growing without any hope that it will be reversed. I


Don't have go to X to see Ukey propaganda bullshit like this. We have Ukey shills posting it right here on PatNet.

Acts of War are standard outs on contracts like this.

America blowing up the Nordstream pipeline is an Act of War. So are the sanctions.
168   Eric Holder   2024 Nov 8, 12:36pm  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says


America blowing up the Nordstream pipeline is an Act of War. So are the sanctions.


Rrrrrrrrrright! If this is true, where are the nukes? 🤡 Are you saying that our little pedo friend Pukin is a wimp and we can do acto of war against him with utmost impunity? Does it also mean that Potato's wimp-ass scared pussy posture towards the Soviets for the last two-and-half years was wrong? If yes, I wholeheartedly agree.
169   Eric Holder   2024 Nov 8, 12:36pm  

The authorities of the German state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern violated the law when they approved the construction permit for the Russian Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.

Source: Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.

Details: An expert report designed to assess the safety of Nord Stream 2 construction was prepared in September 2021, five months before Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

The report was to be prepared by BOS Baustoff & Off-Shore Service GmbH, whose executive director is Lasse Petersen. His brother Steffen is known to have headed the Climate and Environment Protection Fund (the "climate fund"), which lobbied for the completion of Nord Stream 2 in Germany.

BOS claims that the report on the pipeline was prepared by "independent third-party experts". The contractor, according to the documents at the disposal of FAZ, turned out to be Nils B. - who, however, previously worked at the operating company "North Stream 2" Nord Stream 2 AG.

"If the person who helped build the pipeline later led its evaluation - how independent can that be?" - it is noted in the article.

FAZ also obtained documents confirming Nils B.'s correspondence with Nord Stream 2 AG's lawyer. In one of them, a representative of the operator company sends "proposals for adjustments."

The FAZ documents also show that there appears to have been a close relationship between the company and the Mining Authority in the city of Stralsund in Western Pomerania, which was responsible for obtaining the permit, raising further doubts about the independence of the report.

In addition, the Stralsund Mining Authority, on behalf of Nord Stream 2 AG, asked the German Armed Forces for the coordinates of NATO submarine dive sites in the region - information that Russia could have obtained.

A specially created investigative commission is investigating these circumstances, but they say that those involved are not cooperating and are hindering the work of the investigation. For example, many emails and documents of the "climate fund" were destroyed or deleted.

As a reminder, the Climate and Environment Protection Fund was established in 2021 by the government of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. It was intended to complete the construction of Nord Stream-2 to bypass US sanctions.

The fund received a €20 million contribution from Nord Stream 2 AG and another €200,000 from the state government of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, and had a commercial arm to purchase the assets needed to complete the project, including vessels and technology, as well as settlement with Nord Stream 2 AG.

After the USA introduced sanctions against the operator company "Nord Stream-2" in February 2022 and it effectively ceased to exist, the "climate fund" announced its liquidation.
170   Eric Holder   2024 Nov 8, 12:38pm  

Oldie, but goodie: https://x.com/SergioBarreiro/status/1854653900533477784

Trump has always been against that pipeline and he is the one who commited the "act of war" by sanctioning it.

Potato has promptly lifted these sanctions, btw. Are you sad you couldn't vote for Potato second time? 🤡

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