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@TC45 I appreciate your help in getting us all to sharpen our arguments.

You seem like a smart guy. I hope one day you'll leave the corporate media plantation and strike out on your own with independent thought.

Same for you @SumatraBosch

TC45 says

. It's easy to cancel but much harder to really debate

Yep.

TC45 says

Are you not yourself trying to cancel me by labeling me as corporate media? Just because I have a point of view that is different than you. It's easy to cancel but much harder to really debate. I'm well aware this is your site. You say you want to bring the 2 sides together. How is that possible if you cancel opposing views?

@TC45 Let's talk.

This contains the transcript of Victoria Nuland talking with several other diplomats about who should be running Ukraine once Viktor Yanukovych was ousted.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSxaa-67yGM#t=89

The youtube video was posted on Feb 4, 2014 but Yanukovych was ousted in February 22, 2014. This indicates the US was involved with a coup, since it was the United States, through Victoria Nuland that was making the decision of who would be the next leader of Ukraine.

Why hasn't corporate media reported on that? All they report is she said "Fuck the EU", feigning shock that she used vulgarity, they never piece together what actually happened. How did Nuland know that Yanukovych was about to be replaced at that point in time? Well, the answer is the US was ousting him. There was no revolution, it was a coup.

In late 2013 Obama warned that if Assad were to use chemical weapons in Syria, the US would intervene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXbKJpSjpws

That was Mar 20, 2013. The Ghouta Chemical Attack was, supposedly, on August 21, 2013.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack

So why would Assad, a man with a military and an airforce use chemical weapons to kill civilians, AFTER he had been warned if he did this, it would invite US military intervention? Is he not only stupid, but his advisors are as well?

Then there's the tie in with Genie Energy that made an agreement with Israel in late 2013 to mine the oil resources of the Golan Heights, which is Syrian land occupied by Israel - it's entirely illegal, but that doesn't matter. Here's one announcement of it:

https://www.jpost.com/Enviro-Tech/Israel-approves-drilling-for-oil-in-Golan-Heights

And that was on January 22, 2013.

So, now Genie Energy just luckily got military support for getting to that oil. How convenient. And you know who is on the Strategic Advisory Board of Genie Energy?

https://governamerica.com/documents/genie-energy/

Dick Cheney, Rupert Murdoch, Jacob Rothschild, Robert Woolsey, and others.

They're all connected to the government, propaganda (what you might call "news"), banking, and intelligence. Why does nobody in "mainstream media" point THAT out?

TC45 says

My thoughts are my own.

This may be true, but NOT when you're on the clock. There is no real news media in the west at this point.

January 6th appears to have been planned by the FIB, which is no surprise. We know the kidnapping of Gretchen Whitmer was entirely, we know that there was heavy involvement in the 1993 WTC bombing. One of their informants, Emad Salem recorded his conversations with the FBI because, like a sane man, he knew they couldn't be trusted and though he might be denied as being an informant and sent to prison for life:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Emad+Salem+recordings

Especially since the FBI LET the bomb go off.

The reason people don't trust the "authoritative media" is they lie through omission, they help cover up government crimes, they distort information, and they lie to the public. For fucks sake, they cover up false flags done by our government. There were 6 deaths and 1000 people injured in the 1993 WTC bombing. The FBI did that. They don't prevent crime, they create, and "mainstream media" won't report it. They're lapdogs.

Derek Chauvin is INNOCENT. The media convicted him, but it didn't prevent the full bodycam footage of the arrest from coming out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQYMBALDXc

That's was released August 10, 2020 - but the media refused to report on it. Instead they kept stoking racial tension, they intentionally misinformed the public, and they only showed highly edited portions of another recording, in which they insisted that George Floyd didn't resist arrest, and that he was a "reformed man" that was cleaning up his life, although it's pretty obvious he's on some drug, probably fentanyl. Floyd was complaining about not being able to breathe, LONG before he was pinned to the ground, and the reason he was pinned, is because it's obvious he would have tried to run away.

Beyond that, this was the MO of Floyd - a year earlier he was arrested, had drugs on him, took them all, ended up with an OD, recovered in a hospital and avoided a possession charge. I'm not going to bother to find a link to that although I have it somewhere.

I'm an engineer - why can I do a better job at doing YOUR job, if your job is to inform people? It's because your job isn't to inform people. It's to propagandize them, and keep them in the dark about what sort of criminal people run our government. That's your actual job. I'm not angry about it, but I won't pretend anymore that the US has a functioning free press. The free press is censored. 1/2 the people I used to listen to in order to get information, have been removed from various sites. Of course, they pop up on others, those sites get harassed - it's an endless struggle.

TC45 says

richwicks says

January 6th appears to have been planned by the FIB,

If so then Trump could have defused the situation.

How could he when the intelligence agencies and law enforcement orchestrated the event? What time did Trump give his speech, and when was the capital entered?

TC45 says

Why did he escalate it?

How did he escalate it?

TC45 says

Is Trump in on it too?

Possibly actually. If he said "there's agent provacteurs in this audience" he would have been vilified in our "media" as being crazy. He demonstrated FAR beyond anybody else's ability just how corrupt our government is, by feeding more and more rope to his enemies. The greatest struggle that's existed in the last 20 years is proving to people just how corrupt the government is.

Our "news" media makes ZERO effort in this regard.

TC45 says

Is he not just another oligarch? Maybe he is in on it and is playing you?

Maybe, but it's a tactical mistake. He's decimated the credibility of "mainstream news" and has done the same to the DOJ and the intelligence agencies. I've been trying to do that for decades.

TC45 says

He definitely has us against each other. If the Democrats are being played How do you know you aren't being played too?

I'm neither a democrat or a republican. Assigning a label to yourself makes you have to follow along with the group, even when the group is doing something stupid, like lying you into the Iraq war, or lying you into bombing Libya "to prevent a humanitarian crisis"..

I asked you, why is it so easy for me to do your job, if your job is to inform the public? I would be very bad at LYING to the public, that's hard to do because when you lie, you end up with contradictions. This is why it's hard not to have a plot hole in a fiction story. But reality, there's never any plot holes.

I'm actually quite apolitical, because the leadership of both parties are ENTIRELY apolitical. The left/right division is entirely artificial. It's authoritarian criminality versus the rest of us, and the job of the US media is to hide the criminality of the authoritarians no matter how obvious and blatant it is. Like Hunter Biden suddenly finding he has a talent for art he never had before..

I'm not the only one that can see what is going on. I'm not some 0.01 percentile of the population that can see the obvious. It's at least 25%, but I suspect it might be closer to 75%. The oligarchy has no clue because they believe since CNN is still on the air, that they influence public opinion. At least SOME people realize it's not working, which is why we have censorship now.

TC45 says

Are you not yourself trying to cancel me by labeling me as corporate media?

Have you been cancelled? News to me.

Do you have any opinions different from those promulgated by the corporate media?

TC45 says

Are you not yourself trying to cancel me by labeling me as corporate media? Just because I have a point of view that is different than you.

This is what getting cancelled looks like:



That's MY account, I protested and got it back. It was just an attempt at intimidation.

I'm banned from ABC "news" with Disqus. Because the purpose of Disqus is actually to track you, I just banned it from my /etc/hosts file.

When you point out "hey this journalist is LYING, and here's why" you don't last too long anywhere today. This is a good sign though, because it makes echo chambers out of what already were, and alerts people to go elsewhere, and that our establishment is hitting the panic button.

TC45 says

Are you not yourself trying to cancel me by labeling me as corporate media? Just because I have a point of view that is different than you. It's easy to cancel but much harder to really debate. I'm well aware this is your site. You say you want to bring the 2 sides together. How is that possible if you cancel opposing views? Without an opposing view all one is left with is an echo chamber. If that is what you are after please feel free to cancel me.

@TC45 Have you been cancelled? If you are still here and writing, you clearly have not been, and clearly this is not just an echo chamber.

Which opposing view has ever been cancelled here? (I'm not talking about personal attacks or threats of violence - those will be deleted.) Give me an example of some political opinion that you cannot assert here, please. Something without the word "you" in it.

richwicks says

This is what getting cancelled looks like:

And here is another example of what getting cancelled looks like:

https://reclaimthenet.org/argentinian-writer-agustin-laje-banned-from-instagram/

Argentinian writer Agustín Laje banned from Instagram

A popular Argentinian Catholic writer and intellectual has been banned from Instagram a second time. His ban from Instagram underscores Big Tech’s suppression of voices and content with which they don’t agree.

Agustín Laje, a writer and political commentator, took to Twitter to announce his ban from Instagram. He said he was banned “without any reason and without any explanation."

The writer added: “They no longer even pretend to be adhering to vague ‘community standards.’ Censorship on social networks has reached an unbearable level of authoritarianism.”

According to Catholic Connect, an organization that shares Catholic-related content targeted at young adults, this was the second time Instagram banned Laje. “His most recent account on Instagram had over half a million followers before it was banned again,” Catholic Connect wrote on Twitter.

Catholic connect described Laje as “the largest Hispanic conservative influencer & author,” noting that his book, titled The Black book of the new Left, is “foundational in alerting the Spanish speaking world about the tyrannical anti-west nature of critical theory, post Marxism, feminist and gender ideology.”

The book was banned by Amazon.

Patrick says

richwicks says

This is what getting cancelled looks like:

And here is another example of what getting cancelled looks like:

https://reclaimthenet.org/argentinian-writer-agustin-laje-banned-from-instagram/

Argentinian writer Agustín Laje banned from Instagram

A popular Argentinian Catholic writer and intellectual has been banned from Instagram a second time. His ban from Instagram underscores Big Tech’s suppression of voices and content with which they don’t agree.

Agustín Laje, a writer and political commentator, took to Twitter to announce his ban from Instagram. He said he was banned “without any reason and without any explanation."

The writer added: “They no longer even pretend to be adhering to vague ‘community st...

It's fine.

The internet was made to be a distributed communication system. I, for one, welcome the self destruction of the handful of sites that took it over to dominate it.

https://worldtruthvideos.website/watch/arnold-schwarzenegger-on-the-jews-and-their-lies_3xOhVTrmWn6vYIr.html

Booger says

https://worldtruthvideos.website/watch/arnold-schwarzenegger-on-the-jews-and-their-lies_3xOhVTrmWn6vYIr.html

That video has to be poorest quality deep fake ever. With all the jump edits, lighting errors, and poor composting, I cannot believe that video was intended to be believed as real.

LOL! He was probably selling 'juice' and they splice edited everything else.

HeadSet says

Booger says

https://worldtruthvideos.website/watch/arnold-schwarzenegger-on-the-jews-and-their-lies_3xOhVTrmWn6vYIr.html

That video has to be poorest quality deep fake ever. With all the jump edits, lighting errors, and poor composting, I cannot believe that video was intended to be believed as real.

But it's still pretty funny.

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Ceffer says

Deadly insurrectionist!

First, we need to defund the FBI, which has become the American version of the East German Stasi.

Thanks @Ceffer

You are an asset to the cause.