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Science Monday: The Economics of Sex


               
2015 Sep 19, 9:14pm   40,446 views  95 comments

by Dan8267   follow (4)  

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Yep, it all changed with the pill. Video is spot on about everything.

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1   Shaman   @   2015 Sep 20, 8:18am  

Based on observation of a mid forties divorced man I know, women from 38-50 are ridiculously easy to bang. And they say they aren't looking for commitment. They're lying of course, but a man in that age range will be spoiled for choice when but comes to short term fuck buddies.

The scales tilt radically once women get toward the end of their childbearing years.

2   mell   @   2015 Sep 20, 8:30am  

Quigley says

Based on observation of a mid forties divorced man I know, women from 38-50 are ridiculously easy to bang. And they say they aren't looking for commitment. They're lying of course, but a man in that age range will be spoiled for choice when but comes to short term fuck buddies.

The scales tilt radically once women get toward the end of their childbearing years.

Agreed. You still have to keep in shape and/or be somewhat successful (but who doesn't want to strive for both of these things naturally), but then you get spoiled. Still, that may or may not what you want for the long-term, and when you are dating younger ones you may (will) face some "societal headwinds" - in which a zero fucks given attitude is of great importance ;)

3   mmmarvel   @   2015 Sep 20, 8:41am  

Quigley says

Based on observation of a mid forties divorced man I know, women from 38-50 are ridiculously easy to bang. And they say they aren't looking for commitment. They're lying of course, but a man in that age range will be spoiled for choice when but comes to short term fuck buddies.

I was fifty when my first marriage went south. But I can agree, when dating women between 38 - 50 the offers and opportunities to bang the date were - insane.

4   resistance   @   2015 Sep 20, 9:14am  

Excellent video.

But I'm pretty sure that the pill is not the direct cause of declining marriage rates. Contraception in some form was always available.

The direct cause of declining marriage rates is feminism, which encourages women to act like men. This is very unattractive to men who want long-term relationships.

And to be yet more specific, feminism encourages women to fuck whatever men they want, and as many as they want (ie, the way men act about sex) as if demanding this sort of sexual "equality" will not have any effect on men's desire to commit.

But it does have a huge effect. It's absolutely fatal to the marriage market, because no man wants to marry a woman who has fucked many men before him. Woman will still go for the high value man with a wild past. But the man will not go for such women, except for one night. Just a basic biological fact encoded in men's brains by evolution, because men are paranoid about paternity. Women always know the child is theirs. Men do not.

5   Shaman   @   2015 Sep 20, 10:54am  

Fuck yes it's fun! You need to try some more variety, Dan, or maybe just get some of anything.

6   Dan8267   @   2015 Sep 20, 11:37am  

You and I clearly have different standards. If you want to dumpster dive, go ahead. If you want to brag about dumpster diving, go ahead. But trying to get "just some of anything" is how Call It Crazy ended up being a regular at the petting zoo.

7   Dan8267   @   2015 Sep 20, 11:40am  

HydroCabron says

the double standard ("a man with lots of partners is a stud; a woman with lots of partners is a slut")

It's not a double standard. It's a single standard applied to both men and women: if your behavior compromises the genetic interests of your partner or prospective partner, he or she will seek a different partner. How this standard gets played out in men and women is different because of the biological asymmetry of the sexes. In fact, the only reason for having two sexes is for that very asymmetry.

8   HydroCabron   @   2015 Sep 20, 3:11pm  

This, Ladies and Gentlemen, is what the expression "begging the question" really means.

So you believe feminists have harmed society and women, but you won't say which past historical period was actually better for women.

9   Heraclitusstudent   @   2015 Sep 20, 3:37pm  

Dan8267 says

Banging a 38-year-old is like driving a Geo Metro. Yeah, it will get you where you need to go, but is it fun?

Nice line, but when you're 50 yourself we'll see what you get.

10   Heraclitusstudent   @   2015 Sep 20, 3:54pm  

HydroCabron says

Tolstoy, late in life after he had fathered 13 children, decided it would be better if the human race went extinct.

I guess the ability to reach that conclusion earlier in life was weeded out by evolution.

11   mell   @   2015 Sep 20, 3:58pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

Outside of sex the other thing women do for men is, you know, carry their off-springs.

You may get sex easy but If you want to reproduce, you may have to deal with some woman desiderata (at least appear to be for a while).

And if you don't want your off-springs to be losers, you have to do a bit of father work as well - and work with the woman.

Agreed. That's why it is important to focus on good mothers vs good wives. If you find both that's awesome, but if you want to have kids you should focus on a good mom and good genes you can work with when the wive part doesn't work out anymore - and put some good father work in, needed now more than ever.

12   MisdemeanorRebel   @   2015 Sep 20, 5:31pm  

American and British women have been reporting decreasing happiness since the 60s.

http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969

Men haven't changed, women have. Men lost their "Dinner waiting when I walk in the door" and "Spotless House", stayed happy. Women got the jobs they wanted and the release from daily endless housework they wanted - and are miserable.

Denial is a river in Egypt:
http://plannedparenthood.tumblr.com/post/66108552035/does-feminism-make-women-less-happy

13   marcus   @   2015 Sep 20, 6:11pm  

Happiness is a relative thing. Maybe part of what has changed is what women now want, compared to what they have. Where as back then what they got was closer in many ways to what they had wanted.

IT's mostly economics. Women now pretty much (or nearly) have to work even if married and middle class. So that drop from 66 to 59% doesn't tell us that much. In fact, it's surprising that it didn't drop more.

14   MisdemeanorRebel   @   2015 Sep 20, 6:11pm  

Big shift in women who prefer Part-time employment to Full-Time. Among working mothers, as many say they'd prefer not to work as have a P/T Job.

15   Dan8267   @   2015 Sep 20, 6:19pm  

Ironman says

Yeah, he doesn't pick up "dates" at Georgie's like you do...

Actually, I have picked up dates at Georgie's. Lots of straight women go there.

I'm sure the pickings aren't as easy as the petting zoo where you pick up your dates.

16   Dan8267   @   2015 Sep 20, 6:21pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

Nice line, but when you're 50 yourself we'll see what you get.

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