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Krugmans Dopey Diatribe Deifying The Public Debt


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by David Stockman • August 24, 2015

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Actually, dopey does not even begin to describe Paul Krugman’s latest spot of tommyrot. So here are his own words—–least it appear that the good professor is being unfairly caricaturized. In a world drowning in government debt what we desperately need, by golly, is more of the same:

That is, there’s a reasonable argument to be made that part of what ails the world economy right now is that governments aren’t deep enough in debt.

Yes, indeed. There is currently about $60 trillion of public debt outstanding on a worldwide basis compared to less than $20 trillion at the turn of the century. But somehow this isn’t enough, even though the gain in public debt——-from the US to Europe, Japan, China, Brazil and the rest of the debt-saturated EM world—–actually exceeds the $35 billion growth of global GDP during the last 15 years.

But rather than explain why economic growth in most of the world is slowing to a crawl despite this unprecedented eruption of public debt, Krugman chose to smack down one of his patented strawmen. Noting that Rand Paul had lamented that 1835 was the last time the US was “debt free”, the Nobel prize winner offered up a big fat non sequitir:

Wags quickly noted that the U.S. economy has, on the whole, done pretty well these past 180 years, suggesting that having the government owe the private sector money might not be all that bad a thing. The British government, by the way, has been in debt for more than three centuries, an era spanning the Industrial Revolution, victory over Napoleon, and more.

Neither Rand Paul nor any other fiscal conservative ever said that public debt per se would freeze economic growth or technological progress hard in the horse and buggy age. The question is one of degree and of whether at today’s unprecedented public debt levels we get economic growth—–even at a tepid rate—–in spite of rather than because of soaring government debt.

A brief recounting of US fiscal history leaves little doubt about Krugman’s strawman argument. During the eighty years after President Andrew Jackson paid off the public debt through the eve of WWI, the US economy grew like gangbusters. Yet the nation essentially had no debt, as shown in the chart below, except for temporary modest amounts owing to wars that were quickly paid down.

In fact, between 1870 and 1914, the US economy grew at an average rate of 4% per year——the highest and longest sustained growth of real output and living standards ever achieved in America either before or since. But during that entire 45 year golden age of prosperity, the ratio of US public debt relative to national income was falling like a stone.

In fact, on the eve of World War I, the US had only $1.4 billion of debt. That is the same figure that had been reached before the Battle of Gettysburg in 1863.

That’s right. During the course of four decades, the nominal level of peak Civil War debt was steadily whittled down; the Federal budget was in balance or surplus most of the time; and at the end of the period a booming US economy had debt of less than 5% of GDP or about $11 per capita!

In short, nearly a century of robust economic growth after 1835 was accompanied by hardly any public debt at all. The facts are nearly the opposite of Krugman’s smart-alecky insinuation that today’s giant, technologically advanced economy would not have happed without all of today’s massive public debt.

Indeed, on a net basis every dime that was added to the national debt between Jackson’s mortgage burning ceremony in 1835 and 1914 was 100% war debt that never contributed to domestic economic growth and was mostly repaid during peacetime. In effect, Rand Paul was right: In a modern Keynesian sense, the US was “debt free” during the 80 years when it emerged as a great industrial powerhouse with the highest living standard in the world.

Thereafter, there were two huge surges of wartime debt, but those eruptions had nothing to do with peacetime domestic prosperity; and they were quickly rolled back after the war-time emergencies ended. Its plain to see in the graph below.

During WWI, for example, the national debt soared from $1.4 billion to $27 billion, but the great Andrew Mellon, as Secretary of the Treasury during three Republican administrations, paid that down to less than $17 billion, even as the national income nearly doubled during the Roaring Twenties. That meant the public debt was back under 20% by the end of the 1920s.

To be sure, for the last 70 years the Keynesian professoriate has been falsely blaming the severity and duration of the Great Depression on Herbert Hoover’s balanced budget policies during 1930-1932. But none has ever charged that paying down the WWI debt had actually caused the Great Depression. Nor have the Keynesian economic doctors ever claimed that had Mellon not paid down the peak WWI debt ratio of about 45% of GDP that the Roaring Twenties would have roared even more mightily!

Likewise, the national debt did soar from less than 50% of GDP in 1939, notwithstanding the chronic New Deal deficits, to nearly 120% at the 1945 WWII peak. But this was not your Krugman’s beneficent debt ratio, either. Nor is it proof, as per his current diatribe, that the recent surge to $18 trillion of national debt has been done before and has proven helpful to economic growth.

Instead, the 1945 ratio was a temporary and complete artifact of a command and control war economy. Indeed, the total mobilization of economic life by agencies of the state during WWII was so complete that Washington had essentially banished civilian goods including new cars, houses and most consumer durables, and had also tightly rationed everything else including sugar, butter, meat, tires, shoes, shirts, bicycles, peanut brittle and candied yams.

With retail shelves empty the household savings rate soared from 4% of disposable income in 1938-1939 to an astounding 35% by the end of the war.

Consequently, the Keynesians have never acknowledged the single most salient statistic about the war debt: namely, that the debt burden actually fell during the war, with the ratio of total credit market debt to GDP declining from 210 percent in 1938 to 190 percent at the 1945 peak!

This obviously happened because household and business debt was virtually eliminated by the wartime savings spree, dropping from 150 percent of GDP in 1938 to barely 60 percent by 1945, and thereby making vast headroom for the temporary surge of public debt.

In short, the nation did not borrow its way to victory via a Keynesian miracle. Measured GDP did rise smartly because half of it was non-recurring war expenditure. But even then, the truth is that the American economy “regimented” and “saved” its way through the war.

Once the war mobilization was over Washington quickly reduced it massive wartime borrowing, and set upon a 35 year path of drastically reducing the government debt burden relative to national output. Looking at the chart’s veritable ski-slope from 120% of GDP in 1945 to barely 30% of GDP when Reagan took office in 1980 you would think that the US economy should have been buried in depression during that period if Professor Krugman silly syllogisms are to be given any credit.

Of course, just the opposite is true. The greatest sustained period of post-war real GDP growth occurred between 1955 and 1973, with real output growth averaging nearly 3.8% per annum. But after that, as shown by the relative growth rates of real final sales in the chart below, the trend rate of growth steadily eroded. Thus, economic prosperity actually reached its highest level precisely when the national debt ratio was speeding down that ski-slope.

Indeed, during the very period when the fiscal deficit got out of control during the early 1980’s owing to the Reagan Administration’s impossible budget equation of soaring defense, deep tax cuts and tepid restraint on domestic spending, young professor Krugman was toiling away in the White House as a staff member of the Council of Economic Advisors.

During the dark days of the 1981-1982 recession when the economy was collapsing and the deficit was soaring I heard some pretty whacky ideas from the White House economists on how to reverse the tide. But never once did I hear professor Krugman argue that with the GDP at about $3.5 trillion while the public debt stood at less than $1.5 trillion or about 40% of GDP that it was time to turn on the deficit spending after-burners and get the national debt up to 100% of GDP forthwith.

No, this whole case for mega-public debt has emerged since 2008. For crying out loud, before the great financial crisis Krugman was one of the noisiest voices in the chorus denouncing George Bush’s massive tax cuts on the grounds that they would add to the national debt, which was then $6 trillion, not $18 trillion.

The fact is, the financial crisis was caused by the massive money printing campaigns of the Fed in the years after Greenspan assumed the helm in 1987. The resulting falsification of money market interest rates and distortion of prices and yields in the capital markets gave rise to serial booms and busts on Wall Street. But these financial market deformations had virtually nothing to do with fiscal policy and most certainly did not reflect an insufficiency of public debt.

These destructive busts——the dotcom crash, the 2008 mortgage bust and Wall Street meltdown and the stock market plunge just now getting underway——-are owing to the fact that Wall Street has been turned into a gambling casino by the Federal Reserve and the other major central banks.

But rather than acknowledge that obvious reality, Krugman actually manages to turn it upside-down. To wit, he argues that repairing the nation’s busted financial markets after September 2008 required the creation of “safe assets” in the form of government debt so that investors would presumably have a place to hide from Wall Street’s toxic waste:

Beyond that, those very low interest rates are telling us something about what markets want. I’ve already mentioned that having at least some government debt outstanding helps the economy function better. How so? The answer, according to M.I.T.’s Ricardo Caballero and others, is that the debt of stable, reliable governments provides “safe assets” that help investors manage risks, make transactions easier and avoid a destructive scramble for cash.

Now that puts you squarely in mind of the young boy who killed his parents and then threw himself on the mercy of the courts on the grounds that he was an orphan. That is, having experienced a runaway financial bubble owing to excessive monetization of the public debt during the Greenspan era, the nation’s economy now needed even more public debt in order to subdue the very Wall Street gamblers that the Fed’s printing presses had unleashed.

Every phrase in the above quoted passage is nuts, even if it is attributable to an MIT rocket scientist, who is apparently handsomely paid for publishing pure drivel. After all, investors on the free market have known how to manage genuine financial risk from time immemorial; they didn’t need today’s vast emissions of public debt to help them.

In fact, treasury notes and bonds have no logical relationship to honest hedging in the first place. The most salient case of treasury based hedging was the spectacular blow-up of Long Term Capital in 1998. In that particular instance, the gamblers who ran a trillion dollar book of speculative assets including tens of billions of high yield Russian debt blew themselves up shorting the treasuring market to hedge their interest rate risk. Then, during the panicked investor flight to safety in August 1998, their giant losses on risky assets were compounded by even larger losses on their short treasury hedge.

In fact, the real point about the government debt market in today’s central bank rigged financial system is that it has become a venue for state sponsored thievery. That is to say, when the Fed pegs the front end of the curve at zero for 80 months running and then pours $3.5 trillion of fiat purchasing power into buying the rest of the treasury curve, including mortgage-backed agency securities, in order to boost bond prices and lower yields, it is creating a virtually risk free arbitrage for Wall Street gamblers. And that serves no public purpose whatsoever, except to transfer massive windfall profits to the most adept gamblers among the 1%.

Professors Krugman and Caballero actually think this helps?

The problem is that like all Keynesians they do not know the difference between fiat credit, which is manufactured out of thin air by fractional reserve commercial banks or money-printing central banks, and honest debt that is funded out of genuine savings from current income by households and business.

Allocating genuine savings to public versus private capital investment almost always results in a diminution of productivity and efficiency, thereby reducing society’s wealth and living standards, not raising them. That’s because governments are invariably controlled by squeaky wheel special interest groups and lobbies which succeed in gaining in the halls of Congress what they cannot justify in the private market. Amtrak, subsidized mass transit and bus services, corps of engineers water projects and export subsidies to Boeing and GE are obvious cases in point.

But our Keynesian professors have no sense of allocative efficiency. They think that any spending—-including having the unemployed dig holes with tablespoons and fill them up with teaspoons—– adds to GDP:

One answer is that issuing debt is a way to pay for useful things, and we should do more of that when the price is right. The United States suffers from obvious deficiencies in roads, rails, water systems and more; meanwhile, the federal government can borrow at historically low interest rates. So this is a very good time to be borrowing and investing in the future……..

You can’t make this stuff up. And here’s the rest of it for the purpose of any remaining doubt.

#Keynesians are stupid

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41   bob2356   2015 Oct 7, 1:11pm  

indigenous says

Today's dollar would buy 4 cents worth of goods in 1913. Now you will say that wages are adjusted during that time. But the margins are what count, as in the wages have not been inflation adjusted for the last 6 years, and as in mutts such as yourself have had their investments skyrocket at the same time.

Yawn. How many times do you need to it proven that the today's dollar in 1913 thing is absurd. Do you have any short term memory at all?

42   HydroCabron   2015 Oct 7, 1:12pm  

indigenous says

The culprit is demographics and TARP and the other Fed meddling

So the Fed is responsible for the decline of unions.

This is beyond parody. How could anyone even make fun of this? I spent months on this board blaming the Fed for tang and clevis joints and journal bearings, and I couldn't outdo what you seriously believe.

You should love the Fed, then. Thanks to decades of anti-union scaremongering which brainwashed conservatives into seeing a commie behind every tree, you believe anything with a whiff of collectivism is Stalinist.

43   indigenous   2015 Oct 7, 4:33pm  

HydroCabron says

So the Fed is responsible for the decline of unions.

I did not say that. Watch my lips, those are two different subjects. The unions did not hold up in the market and went away because of the irrelevance. Except of course the public unions that do not have to answer to the market place.

44   indigenous   2015 Oct 7, 5:15pm  

My bad. So you concede that debt does not help the economy grow?

45   indigenous   2015 Oct 7, 5:45pm  

Easy Peasy, if debt increased growth, the GDP would grow faster than the debt. But it hasn't.

46   indigenous   2015 Oct 7, 7:58pm  

bgamall4 says

But, and Stockman would likely agree, there is a shortage of bonds, and massive demand for long bonds.

I don't see how.

47   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Oct 22, 1:20pm  

tatupu70 says

Everything you think you know is wrong.

The problem is Austrianism has no falsification mechanism since they don't believe in empirical measurement, only a priori assertion.

48   indigenous   2015 Oct 22, 4:57pm  

thunderlips11 says

The problem is Austrianism has no falsification mechanism since they don't believe in empirical measurement, only a priori assertion.

And the problem with the Ks is they are trying to apply hard science to something that is not hard science. You cannot apply hard science to psychology and it would be bazaar to apply it to math.

Probably the greatest attribute of Austrian economics is praxelogy created by Mises.

49   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Oct 22, 5:29pm  

To restate the above: "Because Social Science experiments are difficult to construct and conduct due the fact that humans aren't acid-base reactions and slamming them together at high speeds in a particle accelerator is politically impossible, we should abandon any attempts at applied science and just pull opinions out of our asses."

50   indigenous   2015 Oct 22, 6:02pm  

thunderlips11 says

To restate the above: "Because Social Science experiments are difficult to construct and conduct due the fact that humans aren't acid-base reactions and slamming them together at high speeds in a particle accelerator is politically impossible, we should abandon any attempts at applied science and just pull opinions out of our asses."

You are really ignorant about economics.

51   Entitlemented   2015 Oct 25, 9:45pm  

indigenous says

Nor have the Keynesian economic doctors ever claimed that had Mellon not paid down the peak WWI debt ratio of about 45% of GDP that the Roaring Twenties would have roared even more mightily!

Likewise, the national debt did soar from less than 50% of GDP in 1939, notwithstanding the chronic New Deal deficits, to nearly 120% at the 1945 WWII peak. But this was not your Krugman’s beneficent debt ratio, either. Nor is it proof, as per his current diatribe, that the recent surge to $18 trillion of national debt has been done before and has proven helpful to economic growth.

Many old timer from Hughes Research decried the lack of critical mass of scientists in the 1950-1970s being overcome by finance, MBA, and legal folks. I must say what I have observed is that having any manufacturing and research where there are so many finance, MBAs and Lawyers is tantamount to malivestment of resources and these people place incredible barriers to progress, in nearly all the 40-50 cases of large programs that I have been witness to.

53   Entitlemented   2015 Oct 25, 10:14pm  

All the recent bubbles caused by malinvestment. The elephant in the room regarding the US Economy is the wholesale abandoment of Manufacturing, and the lack of R&D.

http://www.americanjobsalliance.com/videos/rise-and-fall-us-manufacturing-under-9-minutes

54   indigenous   2015 Oct 25, 11:00pm  

The elephant in the room is the manipulation of the economy over the past 15 years by the Fed, Greenspan then Bernanke. Their false idea that the economy can be smoothed out by spending and monetary control. The real problem is that it creates bubbles just as it did in the 1920s. And the main thing is that it does not allow the money to be allocated to where there is real demand.

55   indigenous   2015 Nov 2, 8:06pm  

First of all your graph is disingenuous, like everything about you, in that it does not show the hockey stick that I'm talking about, see the honest graph below.

The Gold reserves are irrelevant as they were not exchanged for dollars, as Bretton Woods was abandoned in 1971.

The reason that the dollar being the federal reserve currency is relevant is that the increase in M1 was dispersed to all of the world, instead of just the US.

56   mell   2015 Nov 3, 8:38am  

Krugman is a sheister making money by pretending he knows anything while he actually knows jack shit, denouncing basic math and aiding the demise of the country. As simple as that.

57   indigenous   2015 Nov 4, 5:34pm  

You need to change your avatar to this:

58   indigenous   2015 Nov 5, 10:11am  

In theory that is what was supposed to happen but it didn't.

59   indigenous   2015 Nov 5, 10:18am  

Direct your sarcasm to the mirror mutt.

60   Entitlemented   2015 Nov 9, 5:32pm  

indigenous says

In a modern Keynesian sense, the US was “debt free” during the 80 years when it emerged as a great industrial powerhouse with the highest living standard in the world.

So in essense Bill Clinton should have LAFTA instead of NAFTA?

62   Entitlemented   2015 Nov 9, 6:50pm  

Ratio of engineers to lawyers graduated each year:

In Japan: 10:1

In the United States: 1:10

- See more at: http://harpers.org/harpers-index/?s=united%20states#sthash.JpFsmG90.dpuf

63   Entitlemented   2015 Nov 9, 6:53pm  

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/102964829306/the-estonian-pattern-key

Our brains want to categorize the world in binary terms: good versus evil, rich versus poor, old versus young. We sort everything into two piles whenever we can because our tiny brains can’t handle the complexity of life otherwise. It’s no surprise that here in the United States we’re stuck in a Republican versus Democrat mindset that just might kill us all. It’s simply easier to think of politics in terms of two choices, and we like simple. Lately I’ve been wondering if the Republican versus Democrat model does the best job of explaining our governmental gridlock. Could there be...

64   indigenous   2015 Nov 9, 7:20pm  

Entitlemented says

So in essense Bill Clinton should have LAFTA instead of NAFTA?

splain me

65   Entitlemented   2015 Nov 9, 8:26pm  

Lawyers Again F____-__ The Americas

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