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MisdemeanorRebel
2015 Nov 17, 1:45pm
The Iraq War being a lie and a dumb idea to remove a strongman does not make Islam the Religion of Peace.
tatupu70
2015 Nov 17, 1:48pm
But I sure as shit will impugn the patriotism of the morons who still regurgitate the "Bush Lied!" lie. This lie is as bad as the 9/11 truther morons.
If you don't want to be called an ISIS supporting monkey, stop aping their propaganda.
Are Colin Powell and Tony Blair ISIS supporting monkeys also?
Are Colin Powell and Tony Blair ISIS supporting monkeys also?
Tony Blair for sure as he has sold out his country with unhinged immigration. Can't make a judgement about Powell.
Are Colin Powell and Tony Blair ISIS supporting monkeys also?
I can't speak for Blair, but I lost all respect for Powell when he let Scooter Libby get hung out to dry knowing full well it was his deputy (Richard Armitage) who told Novak about Valerie Plame.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/colin-powells-cheap-shot/2011/03/29/gIQA2Q0smJ_blog.html
But I don't think Powell has ever said Bush or the Administration lied about WMDs. Most recent reports has Mike Morrell from the CIA apologizing to Powell for the CIA getting the intelligence wrong.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-morell-apologizes-colin-powell-about-cia-pre-iraq-war-wmd-evidence/
HydroCabron
2015 Nov 17, 3:13pm
If you don't want to be called an ISIS supporting monkey, stop aping their propaganda.
Bush and his minions either lied or they didn't.
Refusing to believe a thing on the grounds that somebody from Daesh might believe it is the height of moronic political correctness.
There are men in ISIS who believe that swallowing mercury is bad for you. Are you going to therefore declare mercury safe to eat?
HydroCabron
2015 Nov 17, 3:15pm
immigration
There are other political issues besides immigration. Can you think of more than one thing in a day?
HydroCabron
2015 Nov 17, 3:19pm
The Iraq War being a lie and a dumb idea to remove a strongman does not make Islam the Religion of Peace.
I agree.
It's the same as how some Ukrainian rebels being old-school fascists does not make the Russian troops in Donbass "vacationing volunteers", and does not prove that the Ukrainians shot down a passenger airplane.
immigration
There are other political issues besides immigration. Can you think of more than one thing in a day?
Not for those trapped inside a metropolis that once felt like part of their fatherland/motherland. It's one of the main issues in Europe now and could be a precursor for the US. Carefully vetted (skills, compatibility) LEGAL immigration with preferences has always beaten illegal, unvetted immigration.
MisdemeanorRebel
2015 Nov 17, 3:54pm
It's the same as how some Ukrainian rebels being old-school fascists does not make the Russian troops in Donbass "vacationing volunteers", and does not prove that the Ukrainians shot down a passenger airplane.
Yep.
Or how intervening in Libya by getting rid of Qaddafy leading to the rise of MB and Islamist Militias running the country is exactly the same shit Bush did in Iraq, just without a ground force.
Hillary/W, 2016.
MisdemeanorRebel
2015 Nov 17, 8:13pm
The FBI says in the last 25 years 6% of terrorist attacks in the US have been by muslims. The have actually been more jewish terrorist attacks in the us than muslim. Go look up something called the START Global Terrorism Database, it's public.
I did. And it includes spiking redwood trees by the Earth Liberation Front as "Terror" or the breaking of a window by suspected Anarchists or even vandalism by the "Veterans for Non-Religious Memorials" (Coos Bay, OR) as Terrorism.
Like I said, there's what ordinary people consider Terrorism and whatever Definition the count-keepers are using. Most people do not consider Trees or Bulldozers or Windows to be the same as French Rock Fans or Window-on-the-World Waiters.
A bunch of smelly dirt worshipping hippies sabotaging a Bulldozer in some National Forest in Washington State is counted as one terrorist act, 9/11 is counted as one terrorist act. There's also a huge number of "Unknowns" counted as terror in the database (how do they know it's terrorism, then, and not crazy kids or ex-spouses or disgruntled employees with apolitical motivations?).
What's even more interesting is some bizarre ommisions. What's wrong with this list?
Hint: October 2002, almost 20 people killed and more injured, clear Islamic Motivation. Multiple attacks, which should qualify each one as a terrorist attack. Yet taken as a whole or individually, they not on this list...
I searched by date just in case:
Here's another question, if a bunch of North African hoodlums in France beat up an elderly man and take his wallet, calling him a dirty kuffar in the process, and their computers are chock full of "Algerian Cilantro, best Cilantro! Glory to Mohammed! French Women are Whores who need Arab Fertility!" are they terrorists or just criminals? If the former, than we are undercounting terrorism.
What happened October 2002?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltway_sniper_attacks
Hint: October 2002, almost 20 people killed and more injured, clear Islamic Motivation. Multiple attacks, which should qualify each one as a terrorist attack. Yet taken as a whole or individually, they not on this list...
Clear islamic motivation? You aren't serious. He was also motivated by the matrix. How exactly did you determine out of all the deranged rantings about motivation it was the islamic motivation that really counted?
Like I said, there's what ordinary people consider Terrorism and whatever Definition the count-keepers are using.
I don't consider spiking trees terrorism either. But I do consider racist, anti government, anti abortion, anti whatever religion, etc., etc. etc. attacks that kill people terrorism. By your count what was the score over the last 40 years or so? You and patrick and stratigist can hide in your basements pissing your pants all you want. I'm not very concerned. I'm a lot more likely to be killed by lightning than a terrorist who probably won't be islamic anyway.
MisdemeanorRebel
2015 Nov 18, 3:25pm
Clear islamic motivation? You aren't serious. He was also motivated by the matrix. How exactly did you determine out of all the deranged rantings about motivation it was the islamic motivation that really counted?
He had multiple journal entries describing Jihad. Quotes from the Koran and the Hadith. Both were Muslim converts. Yep, Mohammed was borderline nutty, but many terrorists are dry drunks/mentally ill.
I don't consider spiking trees terrorism either. But I do consider racist, anti government, anti abortion, anti whatever religion, etc., etc. etc. attacks that kill people terrorism. By your count what was the score over the last 40 years or so? You and patrick and stratigist can hide in your basements pissing your pants all you want. I'm not very concerned. I'm a lot more likely to be killed by lightning than a terrorist who probably won't be islamic anyway.
I don't piss my pants over Islam and I consider Islamic terrorism in the West to be flies on a elephant's ass. My fear is Demographic pressure destroying Western Europe.
The ignorance in the West about the long legacy of Islamic Imperialism-Colonialism of Europe is Appalling. Everybody's heard of the Crusades, but few of the Battle of Tours or the Battle at the Gates of Vienna or the Enslavement of White Europeans by North African and Muslim Steppe Raiders that lasted from the Dark Ages to the 19th Century.
Islamic Colonialist-Imperialists controlled a more than quarter of Europe and ruthlessly oppressed the population for centuries, until well into the Enlightenment Era.
MisdemeanorRebel
2015 Nov 18, 3:43pm
This was a century after Columbus reached the new world; after Martin Luther had lived and died.
Here are Christian Slaves held in Algeria, 1815. That's right, after the US Revolution, after the War of 1812.
Arab Slavery is what "To the Shores of Tripoli" is all about in the USMC Hymn.
How the Tzar smashed the Iranian White Slave Trade - the 19th Century. This is just a few years before the US Civil War.
http://15minutehistory.org/2015/08/26/episode-70-race-slavery-abolition-in-iran/
Arab Slave Market, selling of a Balkan Christian Girl, 1884, 20 years after the American Civil War.
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Our terrorism double standard: After Paris, let’s stop blaming Muslims and take a hard look at ourselves
We must mourn all victims. But until we look honestly at the violence we export, nothing will ever change
More strikingly, where were the heads of state when the Western-backed, Saudi-led coalition bombed a Yemeni wedding on September 28, killing 131 civilians, including 80 women? That massacre didn’t go viral, and Obama and Hollande did not apologize, yet alone barely even acknowledge the tragedy.
Do French lives matter more than Lebanese, Turkish, Kurdish, and Yemeni ones? Were these not, too, “heinous, evil, vile acts�
Western countries, particularly the U.S., are directly responsible for the violence and destruction in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Yemen, from which millions of refugees are fleeing:
The illegal U.S. invasion of Iraq led to the deaths of at least one million people, destabilized the entire region, and created extreme conditions in which militant groups like al-Qaeda spread like wildfire, eventually leading to the emergence of ISIS.
In Afghanistan, the ongoing U.S. war and occupation — which the Obama administration just prolonged for a second time — has led to approximately a quarter of a million deaths and has displaced millions of Afghans.
The disastrous U.S.-led NATO intervention in Libya destroyed the government, turning the country into a hotbed for extremism and allowing militant groups like ISIS to spread west into North Africa. Thousands of Libyans have been killed, and hundreds of thousands made refugees.
In Yemen, the U.S. and other Western nations are arming and backing the Saudi-led coalition that is raining down bombs, including banned cluster munitions, on civilian areas, pulverizing the poorest country in the Middle East. And, once again — the story should now be familiar — thousands have been killed and hundreds of thousands have been displaced.
http://www.salon.com/2015/11/14/our_terrorism_double_standard_after_paris_lets_stop_blaming_muslims_and_take_a_hard_look_at_ourselves/