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Let's get rid of the electorial college already


               
2016 Jan 4, 10:05pm   4,230 views  15 comments

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1   justme   2016 Jan 5, 12:26am  

Does Adam Ruins Everything also have a video about how single-seat congressional districts is massively undemocratic, and also is the cause of our forever-deadlocked 2-party system?

Proportional representation or bust!

2   Dan8267   2016 Jan 5, 7:45am  

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3   HEY YOU   2016 Jan 5, 9:17am  

The only thing worse than the Electoral College is Republican & Democratic voters.

4   Dan8267   2016 Jan 5, 10:35am  

HEY YOU says

The only thing worse than the Electoral College is Republican & Democratic voters.

Again, unless you change election law, which we should definitely do, Wolf's Dilemma, which I have mention like a hundred times on this site, makes third party candidate unelectable. Tell me you do understand Wolf's Dilemma and how it applies to U.S. elections. Complaining about the two major parties without understanding Wolf's Dilemma and it's possible solutions is pretty much useless. Voting for a third party under our system mathematically does not work. Do you understand that?

5   HEY YOU   2016 Jan 5, 11:53am  

Dan8267,
Give me a break.Wolf's Dilemma is a mind game.
Reality is so much more fun.
Vote for a Democrat that drones weddings,funerals & any brown people they can find in countries they have no right to invade. These people love us now. Almost forgot NDAA. So many Democratic entertainments.
Leftwing pretzel logic trying to defend their value system.

Vote for Hillary! She won't tolerate this crap.
Vote for Trump! He'll make America great again.

George Carlin:
" Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means, continue to elect these rich cock suckers who don’t give a fuck about you….they don’t give a fuck about you… they don’t give a FUCK about you."

6   Dan8267   2016 Jan 5, 1:53pm  

HEY YOU says

Give me a break.Wolf's Dilemma is a mind game.

Reality is so much more fun.

Reality follows the mathematics of game theory. If you don't understand the math, you can't improve the system.

Again, do you even know what Wolf's Dilemma is? Are you willing to learn? If you learn, you can be more effective. If you refuse to learn, you will never understand why your approach, advocating people vote for third party candidates, is doomed to fail, and you will never change to an effective strategy. Understanding is power.

If you don't understand the dilemma and how it applies to our elections, I'll explain it to you, but first you have to demonstrate that you are open to learning something new by asking what Wolf's Dilemma is.

7   justme   2016 Jan 5, 2:31pm  

While Wolf's dilemmma is interesting, I think the crux of the matter with the US congressional election system is Duverger's law, which explains how our CONGRESSIONAL election system causes us to have a two-party deadlocked system.

QUOTE:

In political science, Duverger's law is a principle that asserts that plurality rule elections structured within single-member districts tend to favor a two-party system. This is one of two hypotheses proposed by Duverger, the second stating that "the double ballot majority system and proportional representation tend to multipartism."[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger's_law

Ugh, try instead

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

8   Dan8267   2016 Jan 5, 3:26pm  

justme says

I think the crux of the matter with the US congressional election system is Duverger's law

Duverger's Law is a consequence of Wolf's Dilemma when played with a great number of players and a majority vote replacing a few players with a unanimous vote requirement. It's a limiting case of Wolf's Dilemma.

9   justme   2016 Jan 5, 3:29pm  

Dan8267 says

Duverger's Law is a consequence of Wolf's Dilemma when played with a great number of players and a majority vote replacing a few players with a unanimous vote requirement. It's a limiting case of Wolf's Dilemma.

That could be, but I like to quote Duverger's Law because it is simple and to the point. A low-information voter would not be able to make that leap of logic and apply Wolf's Dilemma to our election system.

10   Dan8267   2016 Jan 5, 4:43pm  

fair enough

11   Bellingham Bill   2016 Jan 5, 6:55pm  

advocating people vote for third party candidates

it's beautiful how third-party people blame Hillary for her no-impact Yes vote on the 2002 AUMF (there were enough pro-war Democrats to pass it anyway, assuming Hillary was only playing the pro-war position), while failing to understand that ~600 of the ~100,000 Nader voters (and/or a bit more in NH) were much more instrumental in the war vote since they're the ones who put Bush and the neocons in the WH in the first place.

12   Patrick   2016 Jan 5, 7:01pm  

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13   Shaman   2016 Jan 5, 7:39pm  

I think the people are for this, but the politicians are definitely NOT! If they have to get the popular vote they have a LOT more states to campaign in. Many states with "foregone conclusions" for one party or another get completely ignored by POTUS candidates. Like, California, Alaska, Hawaii, Georgia, Illinois, ... you know, most of them. Only "battleground" states get even token wooing of their voters.

14   Dan8267   2016 Jan 5, 7:49pm  


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15   Dan8267   2016 Jan 5, 7:50pm  

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