patrick.net

I dare everyone to listen to this:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4546796/donald-trump-sentence

I double dare ya. I double dog dare ya.

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/768548044598087680

New CNN/ORC Arizona poll:
Trump: 43%
Clinton: 38%
Johnson: 12%
Stein: 4%

Meanwhile, in Florida:

And that impresses you how?

She's Found On Road Dead that's how.
It's quite genius.

zzyzzx says

New CNN/ORC Arizona poll:

Trump: 43%

Clinton: 38%

Johnson: 12%

Stein: 4%

If Johnson was really at 12%, and it wasn't the Media Hoax it is, it would be a helluva story and he would be on TV/Radio a whole lot more than he is.

Hell, Stein is polling higher than most third party presidential candidates do.

I'd bet that about 80% of that 16% is just the Geez, I can't stand Hillary or Trump, and their voting preferences will change dramatically when they enter the voting booth. In fact, most of those Johnson voters are just bitter #NeverTrump GOPers. In the booth, they'll consider how many Supremes Hillary will likely appoint, hike up their girdles, and vote Trump.

thunderlips11 says

I can't stand Hillary or Trump

You leg hump Trump 24/7. You haven't made one negative statement about him unconditioned by Clinton. Without Clinton you have no opinion. If you can't stand him tell us why. Oh, don't bother. We who dislike Clinton can talk about her flaws all day....and have. You, qua Trump, on the other hand...

neplusultra57 says

You leg hump Trump 24/7. You haven't made one negative statement about him unconditioned by Clinton. Without Clinton you have no opinion. If you can't stand him tell us why. Oh, don't bother. We who dislike Clinton can talk about her flaws all day....and have. You, qua Trump, on the other hand...

Once upon a time I disliked both. I knew little of Trump's policies, only knew him as a bigmouth billionaire with romance drama. I hate Clinton and always have, for being a complete Corporate Whore. I started a thread about her long, long before the Campaign Season began. When I expected Romney to run again, or Jeb to be her primary opponent. In such a case I would have stayed home.

However, the more I heard from Trump, his anti-"Free" Trade, pro-All-American-Historical Tariff of two centuries, and anti-mass immigration policies, it's natural that I support the only candidate I've ever had the chance to vote for that endorses these policies. I was under 18 when Perot ran. You may have noticed that all major Democratic and Republican Presidential candidates in the past few elections have supported more H-1Bs and continuing the disastrous Globaloney (It's A Small World Sentiment cloaking Brutal Labor Crushing by Corporations that Marx famously identified as the "Reserve Army of Labor", kept by Capital to disempower Workers) of the post-Golden Age. As has leading third party candidates from the Libertarian Party.

I jerked off when Trump bashed the fuck out of neocon Jeb.

So now I see Trump is a godsend. If he does 10% of what he says it will be great progress. His anti-SJW, anti-ISIS and anti-Islamic Terrorism, and his tougher-with-NATO stances are icing on the cake.

This should be no surprise on my posting history going back years.

The only valid reason I hear from Hillary voters is "TRUMPLER! DRUMPF! HITLER! PUTIN! PUTLER! RACIST, SEXIST, HOMOPHOBIC!" SJW/Russophobic McCarthyism.

. We who dislike Clinton can talk about her flaws all day....and have.

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Lo fucking el

thunderlips11 says

So now I see Trump is a godsend. If he does 10% of what he says it will be great progress.

Trump just getting elected will do that.

Pissing off the people that have a clue would be awesome, am I right ?

thunderlips11 says

Once upon a time...I jerked off when Trump...

Ooooookay. I thought you were going to flesh out how you

thunderlips11 says

can't stand...Trump

Honestly, I don't know why I thought you might, but you never even tried. Came too soon, I guess. You're starting to sound just like him lately, flip flopping around. Can't stand him but think he's a godsend. Claiming the value of labor needs protection from elites and then trumpeting (get it?) the most elitist, cronied, capital-class, bitch-boy the pampered Western world has ever seen.

Perot was right, you know, about that suckin' sound, even though he would have been a lousy president. You would be a better president than the orange douchebag. errc's neighbor's dog would be as well.

Fuck the neighbor, he's a cat person. Now, gimme a hot dog!

neplusultra57 says

thunderlips11 says

Once upon a time...I jerked off when Trump...

Ooooookay. I thought you were going to flesh out how you

Hmmm, I bothered to give you a reply about my past and current thinking, including his platform which holds things I agree with and have long since before he started running last summer..

Perhaps you'll honor this thread by giving a similar reasoning about of why you'll vote for Hillary, without mentioning Trump at all.

epussy ultra 57
marcus

are you two black, by any chance?

thunderlips11 says

including his platform which holds things I agree with and have long since before he started running last summer..

Which platform would that be? Today's, yesterday's, last week's, last month's, next week's, next month's.....?

Rashomon says

Which platform would that be? Today's, yesterday's, last week's, last month's, next week's, next month's.....?

The one he's been talking about for decades... the anti-One-Sided Trade Deals.
www.youtube.com/embed/Lb6u6t5Nfus

Given I my important issues are: Ending one-sided "Free" Trade, want Assange and Manning freed, the Patriot Act rolled back (about 5% of warantless wiretaps involve Terrorism, it's now used mostly for the Drug War exactly as predicted by detractors), Reducing Immigration from it's all time high, Detente with Russia, and keeping Radical Religious Believers out of the USA, why should I vote for her?

FIFY...

landtof says

epussy ultra 57

marcus

are you two black, by any chance?

This is a damning matinee...

thunderlips11 says

The one he's been talking about for decades... the anti-One-Sided Trade Deals.

www.youtube.com/embed/Lb6u6t5Nfus

More of Trump's consistent Foreign/Trade policy over the decades collected in this montage:
www.youtube.com/embed/OCabT_O0YSM

Funny to hear Shillary supporters accusing Trump of flip-flopping, or "changing platforms". That's gotta be the peak denial.

mell says

Funny to hear Shillary supporters accusing Trump of flip-flopping, or "changing platforms". That's gotta be the peak denial.

There's obviously a difference between shifting positions over an extended period and doing it from day-to-day.

Bernie really paved the way for President Trump. Swooped Hillary from the left, so she can't rush to the center. Meanwhile, ol Donald Trump is going to beat Clinton at her own game, by moving to the center in order to gain votes

mell says

Funny to hear Shillary supporters accusing Trump of flip-flopping, or "changing platforms".

No problem with evolving opinions here. This is not about flip-flopping. This is about Trump being an idiot, a turd, a thoughtless piece of birther trash and a disgusting infantile trust-funder. The entitlement and fundamental lack of respect for other human beings shown by his behavior towards everyone, both citizens, immigrants, and political opponents (in the Republican Party) is breathtaking. If you have ever known trust-fund trash, this nauseating behavior will be familiar to you, in essence but not in magnitude. Trump is truly the king of clueless trust-fund trash: He makes W and Jeb look positively working-class in comparison.

The problem is that Trump viciously attacked all his primary opponents, in the most schoolyard language ever heard in political debates, on this very issue. He did everything short of sticking out his tongue and chanting "Na na na na na naaah poo-poo!"

Now, in the past 72 hours, Trump has:

1) Switched to a policy which is identical to that of his primary opponents
2) Made statements indicating that he has only begun to think about immigration policy, which has the central policy of his run for the presidency. Incredible.

errc says

Bernie really paved the way for President Trump. Swooped Hillary from the left, so she can't rush to the center. Meanwhile, ol Donald Trump is going to beat Clinton at her own game, by moving to the center in order to gain votes

Is that going to include even more tax breaks for the very rich?

errc says

Bernie really paved the way for President Trump.

I would think that now is the time for Bernie to swoop in and take the presidency on a write-in campaign.

After all, he is more popular in the Democratic Party than Hillary (smaller number of supporters notwithstanding) and has a better chance against Trump.

Should Bernie swing into action now, or wait until inauguration day, when his position will be even stronger?

Rashomon says

Is that going to include even more tax breaks for the very rich?

Of course. Tax breaks for the top are the essence of Trump's new brand of conservatism, and among the most refreshing changes he has made to the stale old policies of GOPe.

I'm not sure there's anything Bernie can do at this point, he's lost all momentum, and some of his street cred.

HydroCabron says

Rashomon says

Is that going to include even more tax breaks for the very rich?

Of course. Tax breaks for the top are the essence of Trump's new brand of conservatism, and among the most refreshing changes he has made to the stale old policies of GOPe.

Presumably that's how he can fund a yuuge infrastructure plan.

thunderlips11 says

..

Perhaps you'll honor this thread by giving a similar reasoning about of why you'll vote for Hillary, without mentioning Trump at all.

Sure, and you'll honor me by ignoring it again. But here goes: I support abortion rights, voting rights, unbiased redistricting, equal protection under the constitution, marriage rights for LGBT persons, I oppose theocracy and Citizens United. The composition of the Supreme Court is at a pivotal moment and the Republican party wants to repeal every right mentioned above while furthering theocracy and CU. If I'm not allowed to mention names and you claim to be unable to fill in the blanks you're being deliberately obtuse, again.

HydroCabron says

This is about Trump being an idiot, a turd, a thoughtless piece of birther trash and a disgusting infantile trust-funder. The entitlement and fundamental lack of respect for other human beings shown by his behavior towards everyone, both citizens, immigrants, and political opponents (in the Republican Party) is breathtaking. If you have ever known trust-fund trash, this nauseating behavior will be familiar to you, in essence but not in magnitude. Trump is truly the king of clueless trust-fund trash: He makes W and Jeb look positively working-class in comparison.

The problem is that Trump viciously attacked all his primary opponents, in the most schoolyard language ever heard in political debates, on this very issue. He did everything short of sticking out his tongue and chanting "Na na na na na naaah poo-poo!"

Now, in the past 72 hours, Trump has:

1) Switched to a policy which is identical to that of his primary opponents

2) Made statements indicating that he has only begun to think about immigration policy, which has the central policy of his run for the presidency. Incredible.

#orangedouchebag

neplusultra57 says

disgusting infantile trust-funder

Where as Hillary was born to a poor salesperson and her grandparents were immigrants. Then she dodged sniper fire, and left the White House Broke but within a little more than a decade ended up with around a $120M dollars. She worked hard to bring the Blacks Superpredators to Heel and supported her husband when he returned to Arkansas in the 1992 Campaign Season to fry a Retard to show how tough on Blacks Crime he was. She took a strong stance against gay marriage when running for NY (!) Senate, but then again she's always been for LGBTQABCXYZ rights, especially if you Don't Ask and Don't Tell. When she was Annie Oakley, she blasted Obama's positions on strong gun control; then she evolved and now understands gun bans are great. She handed over all the 'relevant' emails, except the ones she unilaterally decided weren't relevant, and some other work emails as well. She wants to reform campaign finance but is pushing all the boundaries of political campaign fundraising. She's for openness and transparency but keeps her lavish, expensive fundraisers closed to the press, unlike her predecessor, and hasn't had a press conference in 260+ days during a Presidential Campaign.

#PanderCakes #Abuelita #CrookedHillary

thunderlips11 says

The one he's been talking about for decades... the anti-One-Sided Trade Deals.

Yup the conversation I talked about earlier with my long time black friend and the other musician.
The young kid said "Trump says what ever the public wants to hear".
To which I started telling him the hisory of Trump saying the same things he's saying today going all the way back to 1986. I remember every bit of it.
Everytime he would do an interview on his views of ecconomic and world policy, people would ask, "Why doesn't he run?".
He's been dropping names and throwing the establishment under the bus for as long as I can remember television.

That's when my friend got agitated. The left is an incidious cancer that killing this country. If my friends don't snap out of this facist thought control censorship bullshit kick they are on. I'm going to drop them and find new ones. I would never pull that shit on them.

neplusultra57 says

But here goes: I support abortion rights, voting rights, unbiased redistricting, equal protection under the constitution, marriage rights for LGBT persons, I oppose theocracy and Citizens United. The composition of the Supreme Court is at a pivotal moment and the Republican party wants to repeal every right mentioned above while furthering theocracy and CU.

How do you square theocracy opposition and LGBTQ with Hillary's love affair with Saudi Arabia, the poster boy of Theocracy? Or her 'evolving' LGBTQ stances over he past decade?

I take it since you are opposed to theocracy, you are also against immigration from regions where religious extremist views are mainstream, like imprisonment, lashing, forcible sex changes, and even death for homosexuals?

I'm very dubious Hillary, given the Clinton's Fundraising Techniques and Strategies, has Citizens United a priority.

But, I appreciate your response and priorities, however mine are economic and foreign policy this election.

Tenpoundbass says

If my friends don't snap out of this facist thought control censorship bullshit kick they are on. I'm going to drop them and find new ones.

Two things:

First, are you saying that Trumps radical flip flops he's doing in the past several days ar actually some kind of liberal mind control ?

Secondly, just fyi, what I quoted here in this comment should be one sentence. Maybe you know that, and it's just what you like to do to be consistent with this TPB character you've created (lives in Florida, married to Peruvian, plays guitar, programmer and musician, right wing retard, poor grammar ).

Even in most programming languages, an if then statement is one statement, the ";" comes at the end of the whole thing. You could think of that as being kind of like a period.

Again, I know, maybe it's intentional and just part of this pretend character TPB.

thunderlips11 says

How do you square theocracy opposition and LGBTQ with Hillary's love affair with Saudi Arabia, the poster boy of Theocracy?

The same way you square advocating democracy with leg-humping Putin: meh!

thunderlips11 says

Or her 'evolving' LGBTQ stances over he past decade?

Better late than never, while Trump evolves to the right on torture and abortion, birtherism, climate change. As a Republican you'd think he'd know what "Rigged" meant by watching the Tea Party vote suppressors.

thunderlips11 says

But, I appreciate your response and priorities, however mine are economic and foreign policy this election.

So what is it about Trump's tax breaks for the super rich and his flip-flopping immigrant 'plans' and vaguer than vague general foreign policy 'plans' that attract you so much?