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Will Democrats please repeal NPVIC, or at least amend it to require paper ballots and safeguard against hacking? If they continue enacting NPVIC as written, we could see the easily hacked paperless machines in Ohio and elsewhere hacked by ISIL or anyone else. I suspect it's possible that some in the Deep State might have supported NPVIC as a way to "manage" elections, perhaps not realizing that other hackers have skills too, including Russian hackers who are among the best in the world.
Once we get voter ID's on a national level, all of this will be pointless since maybe only 3-4 states will go blue anyway.
Only if your voter ID prevents citizens from legally voting. Otherwise it is a right-wing pipe dream to prevent democrats from being voted into office by passing ID laws. Hell, done right, more people would vote.
Of course, what we should do is make voting power proportional to the number of people being represented. Then the right would have zero power on the national level.
Some opponents have pointed out a risk of fraud, but supporters seem to dismiss or at least underestimate that risk.
A risk of fraud is not what we have to worry about.
Since the acrimonious debate around NAFTA, where Clinton assured, swore and attested that more US jobs would be created, and against Perot, who started large technology firms, said that there would be a dramatic loss of jobs.
Since we now know that this is a greater loss of jobs, and that the "Giant Sucking Sound of job loss" occurred this is where we need the electoral college. Why?? Because a great deal of the manufacturing was outside of city centers (save for Detroit, Fremont,...).
If the electoral college goes, then the city dwellers near the coast decide the election, and the representation of the minority of manufacturers (
Some opponents have pointed out a risk of fraud, but supporters seem to dismiss or at least underestimate that risk.
A risk of fraud is not what we have to worry about.
Since the acrimonious debate around NAFTA, where Clinton assured, swore and attested that more US jobs would be created, and against Perot, who started large technology firms, said that there would be a dramatic loss of jobs.
Since we now know that this is a greater loss of jobs, and that the "Giant Sucking Sound of job loss" occurred this is where we need the electoral college. Why?? Because a great deal of the manufacturing was outside of city centers (save for Detroit, Fremont,...).
If the electoral college goes, then the city dwellers near the coast decide the election, and the representation of the minority of manufacturers (~ 9% of the workforce) is ended.
Bill Clinton should have met with Dept of Labor and industry leaders in 1999 and asked "How is NAFTA doing?" It would have been the right thing to do rather than ignore the whole sale loss of jobs.
IRONY: If Bill Clinton would have had a critical look at NAFTA, suggested improvements to stop US job loss ( or Bush or Obama), the wife of said Lawyer might have been elected.
2) This whole exercise is just another example of why the suffix '-tard' is in the word Libtard. Why? Because it is yet another instance where the Left never really thinks things through. In this case, when the popular vote goes to a Republican...all those Bluetard states EC votes will go with him/her/xir. I can't wait for the voters of those states to experience this and riot in the streets over their own mass-stupidity. Truly. And with their luck, the first time that happens will be in 2020...with the re-election of one Donald Trump! :).
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The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact has achieved 61% of the electoral votes necessary to overcome the Electoral College. All of the enactments have come from "blue" (Democratic) states.
Some opponents have pointed out a risk of fraud, but supporters seem to dismiss or at least underestimate that risk.
I tried to link directly to the text of the Compact on the NPVIC website, but it is buried in Chapter 6 of their ebook PDF. It says that "the chief election official of each member state shall determine the number of votes...The chief election official of each member state shall treat as conclusive an official statement containing the number of popular votes in a state for each presidential slate made by the day established by federal law for making a state’s final determination conclusive as to the counting of electoral votes by Congress."
The Compact contains no provision for recounts, nor challenges, nor even paper ballots.
In a growing number of states, Republicans running state government mandated statewide paperless ballot machines, made by Diebold, which was run by a prominent Republican fundraiser for GW Bush. (Following a sale and change of corporate names, the machines are now made by "Premier Election Solutions," a renamed subsidiary of Dominion.) Computer scientists found the machines could easily be hacked, leaving no audit trail.
If the machines in Republican Ohio or Georgia declare that either of those states cast 10 trillion votes for the Republican nominee, why would Democrats want to commit their own states' electoral votes to follow? Back when Richard Daley ran Chicago, finding an extra 20 trillion votes might have been no problem, but is Rahm Emanuel up to the task? Why would Democrats, ostensibly the party of democracy, want to subordinate their states' votes to the Republican officials in Ohio and Georgia? After the 2000 election debacle, why would Democrats "reform" the system by making their own voters even more vulnerable?
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