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The Democratic Convention will be contested


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2016 May 18, 8:33am   16,841 views  47 comments

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Half (27) of Kentucky's delegates go to Hillary and half go to Bernie. Bernie did pick up a few more delegates in Oregon (28 to 24), but not enough to put a dent in Hillary's lead.

However, Hillary will have to get 616 of the remaining 946 pledged delegates, 65%, to avoid a contested convention and that is highly unlikely to happen. Bernie has no chance of getting the 895 available pledged delegates, 95%, needed for him to get the nomination before the convention. So there is most likely going to be a contested convention in which the superdelegates, who are not obligated to vote for any particular candidate regardless of popularity, are going to decide the nominee.

I think the superdelegates are going to back Clinton, but I'd like to be wrong on this. The only hope I see for Bernie at this point is that the superdelegates might realize that Bernie brings a hell of a lot of independent votes that will either stay home or vote for Trump and that Trump has a good chance of beating Clinton in the general election, but no hope of beating Bernie.

Just remember, if Trump becomes president, you can blame Hillary.

#politics #Trumpghazi

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41   dublin hillz   2016 May 20, 12:50pm  

curious2 says

I haven't seen that phrase before. What does it mean?

Some consumers only stick to certain brands and don't ever buy alternatives, just like some voters will only vote for politicians that they are familiar with.

42   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 May 20, 1:12pm  

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

OR possible a nail in the coffin of the USA. You know, overreact to some threat from China, get us in a war while in a depression due to multiple trade wars at the same time, lose our allies in europe.

Let's consider this. China wants to make the South China Sea it's Gulf of Mexico They don't want foreign powers in the South China Sea anymore than the US permits foreign powers to operate in the Gulf of Mexico. It's not up for debate, it's a geopolitical fact. China overawes every entity in the region.

So, we should continue to outsource high tech manufacturing, including processors and GPS systems, to China? Not only do we lose the jobs, we give a potential competitor dual use technologies. One day if there is a limited war over the South China Sea, a missile might sink a US Ship with a hundred sailors, thanks to FoxConn being the subcontractor on an Apple or Samsung technology.

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

Your entire philosophy is just so fucking stupid. Vote for Cesar because after the terrible leader, we'll bring back a better democracy and Rome will be even better. OOPS. 4000 years and still waiting!

Democracy wasn't in great shape when Caesar took power, and he was forced into it. There was a guy called Sulla, he was the first Dictator for Life, just a few years before Caesar, and he acted for the wealthy. Caesar had to either install himself dictator or be executed on trumped up charges by asshole optimates Cicero the Slumlord and Cato the thief of Veteran's farmland.

Voting for Hillary continues the anti-democratic Globalist Neoliberalism bent. A recent study looking over the last few decades of US Policy and Congress found the preferences of the top 10% are implemented over majority opposition, but policies supported by the majority are seldom implemented. Support among the 10% for a policy or treaty was the single best indicator that a policy would pass, and it usually benefited their class at the expense of everybody else.

The big myth is that outsourcing and globalization was just an accident. It has been continuously driven by the 1% since the end of the Cold War, with armies of lobbyists, MBAs, CEOs, lawyers, and brought out politicians in NY, DC, and LA pushing it hard through a variety of big funded think tanks, their control of the media, and of course Congress, supported by billions over the years.

Even back in the early 90s, Perot pointed out Mexico spent a small fortune lobbying for NAFTA.

43   curious2   2016 May 20, 1:56pm  

dublin hillz says

curious2 says

I haven't seen that phrase before. What does it mean?

Some consumers only stick to certain brands and don't ever buy alternatives, just like some voters will only vote for politicians that they are familiar with.

Oh. I think you meant "Coke or Pepsi" instead of coke (a fuel derived from coal) or chevron (the insignia worn by Lance Corporals in the Marines, among others).

44   dublin hillz   2016 May 20, 2:15pm  

thunderlips11 says

It has been continuously driven by the 1% since the end of the Cold War

Very likely because after soviet union imploded there was no longer a need for prosperous middle class in the battle for hearts and minds of the citizens.

45   Heraclitusstudent   2016 May 20, 4:48pm  

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

Vote for Cesar because after the terrible leader, we'll bring back a better democracy and Rome will be even better. OOPS. 4000 years and still waiting!

Not OOPS: as a matter of fact, Rome grew more powerful and rich after Cesar.
Americans should remember the fall of the republic and the fall of Rome was not exactly the same thing.

47   Dan8267   2016 May 21, 12:36pm  

neplusultra57 says

Dan8267 says

I know full well the dangers of a Trump presidency.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2016/05/donald-trump-and-supreme-court

Another reason to demand the superdelegates choose Bernie. All those independents who could not vote in closed primaries aren't going to vote for Hillary. The superdelegates should do their sole job, which is to choose the will of the people in the general election over the will of the much smaller group of people who can and choose to vote in the primary. That's the only purpose of even having superdelegates.

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