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Trump might win What country should I move to?


               
2016 Sep 21, 1:07pm   31,481 views  91 comments

by truth will find you   follow (0)  

I'm planning to have a child in the next year or two, and if Trump wins, I think there is a very real possibility that the USA is simply not a country to count on as a place to live. Now, I'm a citizen by birth, so my child will of course have US citizenship, no matter where he/she is born. Likewise, he/she will have Taiwanese citizenship, but then again, with possible/likely Chinese takeover, while a very nice place to live today, it might not last forever.

So, I'm thinking of driving to Canada before the birth, as Canada also gives birthright citizenship.

What other countries have birthright citizenship, and serve as a good hedge to the current two options that my child will have?

#GoFuckYourselfFirst

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1   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   @   2016 Sep 21, 1:27pm  

Canadian anchor baby. I like it. Everybody goes north to lay their anchor. Would the kid get automatic USA citizenship too? Canada will also do better in a global warming situation too, unless we stop using gas/oil.

2   BayArea   @   2016 Sep 21, 1:30pm  

This sounds like a dream come true. If only 100% of liberals thought like you.

But when the time comes, you all never put your money where your mouth is...

3   HydroCabron   @   2016 Sep 21, 1:35pm  

I'm looking at Asia.

Thailand is probably a bad idea - King Bhumibol Adulyadej just celebrated his 70th year on the throne, and Thailand is more like three countries than one, with the king being the major unifying force. Seeing as his son's an asshole, civil war or really bad martial law seems likely when Bhumibol dies.

Pretty much bost of the other countries besides China and Burma are decent candidates.

4   Tenpoundbass   @   2016 Sep 21, 1:36pm  

One that wants to be screwed up.

5   forgotloginagain   @   2016 Sep 21, 1:56pm  

HydroCabron says

Thailand is more like three countries than one, with the king being the major unifying force. Seeing as his son's an asshole, civil war or really bad martial law seems likely when Bhumibol dies.

I speak some Thai, and might consider living there. They give permanent residency easily to anyone with good foreign income, so staying is not a problem. Very cheap to live, and thus I could continue piling up income while there.

Also, it is close to Taiwan to visit the family there, the food is fantastic, and in terms of rock climbing, hiking, beach vacations, incomparable. Private schools with reasonable English/Mandarin programs are available, so that is another plus.

BUT I don't see it as a place to buy a home, or call home forever. It could turn south for the reasons you've posted above.

So, I'd still like my child born somewhere that provides another option, if the US goes south, and China takes over Taiwan.

6   forgotloginagain   @   2016 Sep 21, 2:00pm  

YesYNot says

Canadian anchor baby. I like it. Everybody goes north to lay their anchor. Would the kid get automatic USA citizenship too? Canada will also do better in a global warming situation too, unless we stop using gas/oil.

I have to give credit to my Iranian friend. He moved his American wife to Vancouver for specifically that reason. It takes nothing away, but adds and option.

Yes, US citizenship is conferred by birth, if a parent is a US citizen. Thus, even if Obama was born in Kenya, it wouldn't mater, his mother is American. I was born on a US military base in Spain, my father was in the service.

Canada also has free college education, so ironically, we could live anywhere else all those years, then send the kid to Canada at 18 for college.

Spain is another possibility, but I haven't been there in 30 years.

7   forgotloginagain   @   2016 Sep 21, 2:01pm  

Ironman says

That kid will be really fucked up if it has to live with you.

Yep, that is about as much intelligence as anybody would expect you to contribute to a conversation.

8   forgotloginagain   @   2016 Sep 21, 2:07pm  

Ironman says

Actually, I was 150% truthful, and I really feel sorry for any kid you bring into the world.

I really feel sorry for your parents, what a disappointment watching there son turn into a bitter, bigoted loser full of hate must have been for them. Not to mention any kids raised by a loser like you...

9   Ceffer   @   2016 Sep 21, 2:19pm  

I know an American with a Dutch wife who lives in France. Kids have three passports and citizenship. French speaking also give an in to Eastern Canada/Quebec.

I have an acquaintance who said he would move if George Bush Jr. got elected. He did and he did. Took all of his money and moved to Germany, where he had an American daughter with a German husband teaching. He moved back after six months because he couldn't adapt to culture shock and language. That's in a relatively civilized European country.

10   forgotloginagain   @   2016 Sep 21, 2:25pm  

Ceffer says

He moved back after six months because he couldn't adapt to culture shock and language. That's in a relatively civilized European country.

I spent six months in Germany at age 14, and had a hell of a good time! to each their own I guess!
I also lived in Australia for a year, and had nothing but fun.
thailand another year, and though language/culture were challenging, I still loved the place

So, two separate questions:

Have the child in a country that has a future, and provides an option if the US really goes down the toilet.

Live for extended periods of time somewhere...

11   Ceffer   @   2016 Sep 21, 2:32pm  

Hey, if you have the options, you have nothing to lose by exercising them. It sounds like an easy, risk free plan with good upside.

12   curious2   @   2016 Sep 21, 3:30pm  

truth will find you says

Trump might win What country should I move to?

If you're seriously committed to signaling your partisan support for Islam, then move to a Muslim country. Just hope and pray your kids aren't daughters, or gay, or unbelievers, or falsely accused of stealing something, or whatever. The most miserable countries on earth have Muslim majorities, because of the dreadful consequences of that horrible religion.

Thailand has a growing Muslim problem, although you have probably not heard about the ongoing Islamic carnage.

Canada had really good prospects for a warming climate, but decided recently to join the Saudi-financed Christian martyrdom and throw itself on the Saudi sword. It's amazing how easily misled materialist westerners can be, throwing away the Enlightenment for a tiny fraction of Saudi oil revenues. The stupidity would be risible if not so tragic.

Hey, if you're really serious about "democratic" Islam, move to the Islamic "republic" of Pakistan. Just hope and pray your kids never say anything blasphemous (or laugh at a cartoon), because blasphemy is a capital offense there, as per Islam. Just ask the family of Asia Bibi. who are crying bitter tears, or the family of Osama bin Laden, who are laughing all the way to the bank.

13   truth will find you   @   2016 Sep 21, 3:33pm  

curious2 says

If you're seriously committed to signaling your partisan commitment to Islam, t

I'm a Buddhist. That is why I'm so careful and polite in my speech.

14   curious2   @   2016 Sep 21, 3:37pm  

I suppose if you expect reincarnation, you can prioritize politeness over survival. Defending Muslims and getting killed in the name of Islam might be part of your plan, and it's obviously part of the Islamic plan, but I hope you can understand even smart people think it's crazy and self-destructive to import the charlatan Mohammed's hateful fraud. Politely encouraging smokers to smoke is not a kind thing at all. It would be kinder to end smoking, and Islam.

15   truth will find you   @   2016 Sep 21, 3:44pm  

curious2 says

Defending Muslims and getting killed in the name of Islam might be part of your plan

I defend freedom of all religion. Ever hear of a country founded on that principle, you insufferable dumbfuck?

16   truth will find you   @   2016 Sep 21, 3:46pm  

I find that Enlightenment comes from saying simple truths:

All peace comes from within.

Fix yourself, before you fix the world.

Ironvagina is a fucking moronic bigot loser.

That kind of thing!

17   curious2   @   2016 Sep 21, 3:47pm  

truth will find you says

you insufferable [bleep]?

Put your family where your mouth is, and move to a Muslim country. The founders didn't have to contend with Muslim citizens. Having seen what the Koran says, President Jefferson launched the Barbary Wars, completed by his protégé President Madison. They ended centuries of Barbaric piracy, and made America great, and Europe came along for the ride. Islam commands believers to cut off your head, and the heads of your family; you support that "freedom", and want to pay for the privilege of importing it here, and then leave when things don't go your way; I don't.

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