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Get Out The Vote!.............(hahahahahahahahahaha)


               
2016 Oct 28, 8:19am   5,234 views  14 comments

by Robert Sproul   follow (1)  

A new study, confirming the Princeton study of a few years ago, finds that:

"The US government does not represent the interests of the majority of the country's citizens, but is instead ruled by those of the rich and powerful, a new study from Princeton and Northwestern Universities has concluded.
The report, entitled Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens, used extensive policy data collected from between the years of 1981 and 2002 to empirically determine the state of the US political system.
After sifting through nearly 1,800 US policies enacted in that period and comparing them to the expressed preferences of average Americans (50th percentile of income), affluent Americans (90th percentile) and large special interests groups, researchers concluded that the United States is dominated by its economic elite.
The peer-reviewed study, which will be taught at these universities in September, says: "The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10769041/The-US-is-an-oligarchy-study-concludes.html

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7   Robert Sproul   @   2016 Oct 28, 9:02am  

BayArea says

In my experience with presidential elections, most people cling on very tightly to a couple issues and base their decision on that (i.e. anti-abortion and "the wall") and then cheerlead the candidate who is aligned with them on those few issues.

This is Temple Grandin's curved cattle chute. They don't really know where they are going, and once they are on the killing floor it doesn't matter what they think.

8   BayArea   @   2016 Oct 28, 9:33am  

FP says

BayArea, people don't need to understand all issues. They need to figure out what the most important issue/implication is and focus on it. For this, limited understanding/information is usually enough. However, most people are not capable even of that.

Yes, I certainly don't expect the general public to understand all propositions fully. However, I would hope that people can look 1 layer past the initial proposition description and ask themselves, "why is it being presented the way it is, who benefits, who doesn't, and why"

The condom proposition is a great example. BOTH the Democratic party and the Republican party oppose the measure. BUT, it has overwhelming support from the general public, presumably because it's being pitched as a health/safety measure. Who could possibly be against health and safety in the workplace (sarcasm)

9   anonymous   2016 Oct 28, 9:48am  

Yea, "we have to pass it to know what's in it".

We all remember the UIGEA that in effect, banned Americans from participating in those Presidential Elections wagers that so many ignorantly cite as meaningful to US elections. The legislators voting for the Safe Port Act didn't even see the final language of the rider prior to passing the bill.

To blame the voters is nonsensical. Unless we're blaming the low info Clinton voters

10   Ceffer   @   2016 Oct 28, 10:30am  

You'll know the news is honest when CNN talking heads start reporting with Soros jizz all over their faces.

11   MisdemeanorRebel   @   2016 Oct 28, 10:35am  

I think Laziness, Despair, and Apathy, are the key problems. If turnout is high then vote rigging shennanigans either won't work, or would require such a vast amount of rigging it would be undeniably obvious.

The advantage is that most vote rigging happens in the primaries. Usually either candidate is acceptable to the Deep State and Overmighty Subjects. Such would be the case if it was Jeb! vs. Hillary, or McCain vs. Obama, or Bush vs. Gore/Kerry. So the "Opposing Force" is a little afraid and definitely inexperienced in rigging General Elections.

Back in 1992, the only real problem was Ross Perot, as both HW Bush and Clinton were both for NAFTA.

12   dublin hillz   @   2016 Oct 28, 11:36am  

Robert Sproul says

"The US government does not represent the interests of the majority of the country's citizens, but is instead ruled by those of the rich and powerful, a new study from Princeton and Northwestern Universities has concluded

The only way to confront this matter is to nominate and vote for individuals like Bernie Sanders. It's certainly not going to happen by nominating self serving demagogues who are themselves oligarchs who enjoy divide and conquer games.

13   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   @   2016 Oct 28, 11:39am  

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

I think Laziness, Despair, and Apathy, are the key problems. If turnout is high then vote rigging shennanigans either won't work, or would require such a vast amount of rigging it would be undeniably obvious.

The advantage is that most vote rigging happens in the primaries. Usually either candidate is acceptable to the Deep State and Overmighty Subjects. Such would be the case if it was Jeb! vs. Hillary, or McCain vs. Obama, or Bush vs. Gore/Kerry. So the "Opposing Force" is a little afraid and definitely inexperienced in rigging General Elections.

Back in 1992, the only real problem was Ross Perot, as both HW Bush and Clinton were both for NAFTA.

The lawyers and media being dishonest and attempting to confuse people does not help matters. It's times like these when gun rights become of heightened importance.

14   Robert Sproul   @   2016 Oct 28, 4:34pm  

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

Laziness, Despair, and Apathy

That's me to a T. I hate the cynical fucks on both sides of this degrading charade.

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