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RIP turtledove


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2016 Nov 15, 2:44pm   75,789 views  248 comments

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I just heard some extremely sad news that turtledove passed away recently, quite possibly over weekend. Had been in touch with her regarding a family issue and I got an email from her husband today indicating that she had passed away before I had a chance to reply . I am not privy to any other details.

Was very thoughtful of her husband to contact me, given his level of grief and work responsibilities in light of the bad news. She was a kind generous person who asked her husband to reach out to me on deathbed to meet up and discuss our case with us.

Personally, I'm in shock, as it seems to have happened this past Saturday or Sunday.

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121   sugarbean   2016 Nov 17, 7:15am  

I am a personal friend Susann's. She did indeed tragically pass away. She was a wonderful, caring, intelligent person and our world was better with her in it. I came across this site searching for possible arrangements on the internet. I decided to comment since there seemed to be some debate about her passing. I only wish it were a hoax. I will miss her laughter, our long talks and our enduring friendship. RIP Susann Sills 1971-2016

122   PaisleyPattern   2016 Nov 17, 7:16am  

It seems likely that she was a troll, Mission accomplished time to move onto another project. The timing with respect to the election is pretty suspect.

123   06de   2016 Nov 17, 7:20am  

I too was a close friend and our daughters were very close. She was a good listener and a very loyal and principled woman who touched so many people. I too came across this site while looking for arrangements. Pls do not disrespect this woman of her legacy. And if you do find service information please post. Thank you

124   PaisleyPattern   2016 Nov 17, 7:51am  

If you are a close friend then why don't you post the service information?

125   anonymous   2016 Nov 17, 8:03am  

Anyone have any ideas yet on what her patnet friends can do?

She was a proponent of free speech and she definitely liked Patricks site. We could all donate to Pubah Pat in her honor. Assuring patnet lives on

Or do something for her kids

126   HEY YOU   2016 Nov 17, 8:05am  

06de says

principled woman

I would think that her passing upset many here.

I question anyone's values that comes to patnet
although,all the dummies,here,are entertaining.
I'm here,I HAVE NO VALUES! lol

127   _   2016 Nov 17, 8:10am  

128   sugarbean   2016 Nov 17, 8:11am  

If I had the service information I would be glad to post it. I was trying to find it on the internet because I didn't want to bother her husband. I cannot image the the enormority of his and the children's grief.

129   Strategist   2016 Nov 17, 8:38am  

HEY YOU says

I'm here,I HAVE NO VALUES! lol

We know, Hey You, we know.

130   Robert Sproul   2016 Nov 17, 10:15am  

junkmail says

She was ballzy.

It is a very rare woman who can hang in a male dominated conversation like this.
I value the ones that can enormously.

131   Ceffer   2016 Nov 17, 10:31am  

Poor Turtledove. Makes me hurt all over.

She decided to be the den mother for a bunch of reprobate Boy Scouts from Hell.

132   Tenpoundbass   2016 Nov 17, 10:37am  

Ceffer says

She decided to be the den mother for a bunch of reprobate Boy Scouts from Hell.

Damned right She did!

133   zzyzzx   2016 Nov 17, 12:42pm  

Robert Sproul says

It is a very rare woman who can hang in a male dominated conversation like this.

I value the ones that can enormously.

Was she the only woman here? I'm specifically referring to regulars.

134   curious2   2016 Nov 17, 1:32pm  

anonymous says

Ellie Mae

has not commented since August, and had been suffering from medical problems for a long time, so I wonder if another memorial post might be appropriate or imminent. We had been PatNet friends, but as she fell deeper into her Stockholm Syndrome, she decided to Ignore me and probably others. I hope she is OK.

135   Ceffer   2016 Nov 17, 1:36pm  

There are likely other women here, but they don't dare post as such.

136   Peter P   2016 Nov 17, 1:56pm  

Perhaps the only fair view is the average of all fringe views.

137   curious2   2016 Nov 17, 2:03pm  

Peter P is sad says

the average of all fringe views.

Seeing more sides of the elephant can add perspective, but averaging reason with delusion does not improve accuracy or fairness. For example, Gary insists that the children who died in Sandy Hook, and their grieving parents, were all actors conspiring to take away Americans' guns. If you start with evidence of what happened, and then "average" in Gary's view, you get further from reality. If the sole priority were inclusiveness, then it might seem more "fair" to give equal time to the delusional view, but time is valuable.

138   Peter P   2016 Nov 17, 2:06pm  

curious2 says

Seeing more sides of the elephant can add perspective, but averaging reason with delusion does not improve accuracy or fairness.

It does, from a game-theory standpoint.

Any statement is an attempt to persuade. A worldview can be construct from asking why certain statements are made and by whom.

139   anonymous   2016 Nov 17, 3:05pm  

Tenpoundbass says

What ever, She has the right to a classy send off, even if She is only Internet dead.

Show some respect.

fuck you - this thread is awkward. the meetup shit was awkward.

seems like somebody posted too much personal information on the internet, and now wants to escape it.

if she really did die, that's surely tragic - but who the fuck would want that news blasted on patrick.net like this? weird.

140   Mrs Wonderful   2016 Nov 17, 6:21pm  

Proof is in the pudding. A published obit will confirm the event. The Facebook posts seem to have the same effect but are more easily manipulated in case someone's trying to pull an S. R. Haddon.
landtof says

seems like somebody posted too much personal information on the internet, and now wants to escape it.

141   Strategist   2016 Nov 17, 6:23pm  

MrWonderful says

Proof is in the pudding. A published obit will confirm the event. The Facebook posts seem to have the same effect but are more easily manipulated in case someone's trying to pull an S. R. Haddon.

landtof says

seems like somebody posted too much personal information on the internet, and now wants to escape it.

The best proof is Turtledove posting something. I still hope she is injured and not deceased.

142   Blurtman   2016 Nov 17, 6:28pm  

Is the claim that to escape a stalker, she and her family fabricated her demise? Sounds a bit hard to believe.

143   Mrs Wonderful   2016 Nov 17, 6:30pm  

An obit will tell all.

144   MMR   2016 Nov 17, 6:47pm  

landtof says

having trouble believing that internet user MMR was emailed about it the very next day.

It wasn't the next day, it was 3 days later and I don't know that she was on her deathbed; rather, her husband said that she had discussed the case with him and the accident must have happened within 24-72 hrs of the fall that led to her death.

The conversation with her husband might have happened months earlier as well, but last Friday day was the first time I contacted her and she replied Saturday.

I got a message Tuesday from her husband Tuesday stating that she would have wanted me to contact you(me).

Hope this clarifies any confusion. Sheesh, as if my conversation is the most important thing here

145   PaisleyPattern   2016 Nov 17, 6:47pm  

Like I said. It sounds like bullshit.

146   Patrick   2016 Nov 17, 6:49pm  

Does Orange County have an obligation to report deaths? If so, maybe we can simply inquire and confirm it officially, though I feel pretty certain it's unfortunately true.

147   sugarbean   2016 Nov 17, 6:55pm  

An unwitnessed accidental death would be throughly investigated. The body would be held until they felt they had obtained all evidence that it might contain.

149   anonymous   2016 Nov 17, 7:12pm  

first of all, this is patrick.net

but overall, one normally expects death announcements as straight-to-the-point with details on the arrangements for bereavement/support.

i'm not saying she's alive, but there's some details that don't really feel 100% authentic.

150   anonymous   2016 Nov 17, 7:15pm  

Blurtman says

Is the claim that to escape a stalker

there's so many crazy fucks out there. she was brutally careless with her sharing habits. those are facts.

151   Mrs Wonderful   2016 Nov 17, 7:16pm  

Was she ever the victim of spousal abuse?
Did her husband know she bared her beasts to the world?

Tenpoundbass says

An unwitnessed accidental death would be throughly investigated. The body would be held until they felt they had obtained all evidence that it might contain.

152   Ceffer   2016 Nov 17, 7:19pm  

TD wouldn't have to fake a death. All she would need to do is quit posting and responding forever, and memories would fade.

Even if she did fake a death, all is forgiven as long as she is OK.

153   Strategist   2016 Nov 17, 7:20pm  

MrWonderful says

Did her husband know she bared her beasts to the world?

Yes, she did say her husband took the picture.

154   Mrs Wonderful   2016 Nov 17, 7:20pm  

Well throw that theory out the window

155   Tenpoundbass   2016 Nov 17, 7:22pm  

MrWonderful says

An unwitnessed accidental death would be throughly investigated. The body would be held until they felt they had obtained all evidence that it might contain.

I didn't say that!

156   Mrs Wonderful   2016 Nov 17, 7:27pm  

If you hit the "quote" link in the post above or below the post with the highlighted text you get the wrong person in the "xxx says" field
@Patrick

Tenpoundbass says

I didn't say that

157   Tenpoundbass   2016 Nov 17, 7:29pm  

I know, I'm just stating for the sake of future people reading this thread.

158   sugarbean   2016 Nov 17, 7:43pm  

While it would be wonderful to find out that she is actually alive, she isn't. She was never the kind of person who shied away from a fight on any level. Even though it has been several days since her death there are a couple of plausible reasons for the delay in announced arrangements. First of all, her family lives quite a distance away in a few different states. That requires extra coordination. Second, as I mentioned before, most unwitnessed accidents require an investigation. Not necessarily because they are suspicious but to insure it was an accidental death. Please remember that her children can search the internet and find this thread. Please be respectful of them.

159   Tenpoundbass   2016 Nov 17, 7:46pm  

Thanks

160   Patrick   2016 Nov 17, 7:50pm  

MrWonderful says

If you hit the "quote" link in the post above or below the post with the highlighted text you get the wrong person in the "xxx says" field

You're right, that's a real bug. Thanks for telling me!

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