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RIP turtledove

By MMR follow MMR   2016 Nov 15, 2:44pm 42,507 views   255 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


I just heard some extremely sad news that turtledove passed away recently, quite possibly over weekend. Had been in touch with her regarding a family issue and I got an email from her husband today indicating that she had passed away before I had a chance to reply . I am not privy to any other details.

Was very thoughtful of her husband to contact me, given his level of grief and work responsibilities in light of the bad news. She was a kind generous person who asked her husband to reach out to me on deathbed to meet up and discuss our case with us.

Personally, I'm in shock, as it seems to have happened this past Saturday or Sunday.

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216   NDrLoR   ignore (0)   2019 Apr 30, 8:44am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

indigenous says
“fell down the stairs early Sunday morning,”
I see this a lot on Investigation Discovery cases. Such a sad and undeserving end, should have lived another 30-35 years!
217   RC2006   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 30, 8:53am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

She was one of the coolest posters here cant believe she was murdered. I think everybody was shocked with her age and everything that she died from a fall on the stairs.
218   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 30, 9:47am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I bet he was cheating on her.
219   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 30, 9:48am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HonkpilledMaster says
This is a helluva shock.

My sympathies for the family.
220   Shaman   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 30, 9:57am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Looks like @wookieman was right, this was foul play. Gary territory indeed. Just because it’s a conspiracy theory doesn’t mean that it’s wrong!

Of course now I’m feeling even worse for her twins, who will be left without a parent.
221   Blue   ignore (0)   2019 Apr 30, 10:28am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

That is quite sad and I feel very sad for her children as well. I missed this thread. I know its too late. Please accept my deepest sympathy to her and her family.
222   Rin   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 30, 10:38am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I think the best motive clue here is the life insurance policy.

If I recall, TD's husband had financial problems earlier due to some politics at a clinic he was at. And the article also says that they were self-employed, running a clinic, which usually has a ton of overhead including liability insurances, etc, It's not like in finance, where one's capital is simply about moving others' capital around.

All and all, if the motive is true then it's a matter of disguising a blunt instrument attack into looking like a fall, unless drugs were involved, which could possibly show up in an autopsy report.
223   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2019 Apr 30, 11:03am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

An Investigator called me last year, asking me if I have ever been to SF, or the Patnet meet up.
He had some questions because I told her that She must have a cool Husband, and because of my response upon hearing about her death.
I said because she was well liked, it came as a big shocker to everyone at Patnet.
I thought it was weird that I was getting called. I always wondered if he put them on Patnet members trail to shake the investigators off his trail.
224   RC2006   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 30, 11:14am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Even if you hate your wife how could you kill the mother of your children, if he did murder her for money or it was premeditated in any way he is a psycho.
225   Rin   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 30, 11:20am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
I always wondered if he put them on Patnet members trail to shake the investigators off his trail.


Here's the thing, this is an anonymous forum. This isn't some "Rochester University" alumni meetup board, where ppl share a lot of personal history, even if they didn't meet up back in school. And thus, the fact that anyone, like her husband, would even think of "extra personalizing" the anonymous board as way of developing a type of personal narrative, is almost like asking to be investigated.

RC2006 says
if he did murder her for money or it was premeditated in any way he is a psycho


No, just another criminal but of a white collar background. I don't believe a true psychopath would have used PatNet to spread the news. What would have happened then is that one day in 2016, TD stops posting, and that's the last anyone hears about her, swiftly forgetting her in 6 or so months.
226   willywonka   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 30, 11:21am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RC2006 says
Even if you hate your wife how could you kill the mother of your children, if he did murder her for money or it was premeditated in any way he is a psycho.
Pushing someone down the stairs would be in imprecise way to murder. How do you know the person would be killed? And if not, you go to jail. Heat of the moment more likely, assuming the spouse did it. Of course she may have been killed before, and then a fall down the stairs staged. Blow to the head, maybe, but cervical dislocation, probably not.
227   NoCoupForYou   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 30, 11:24am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RC2006 says
Even if you hate your wife how could you kill the mother of your children, if he did murder her for money or it was premeditated in any way he is a psycho.


Sick bastard.
228   EBGuy   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 30, 11:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Why do I have a feeling this will end up as a 48 Hours Mystery on CBS. I wonder if our fearless leader will be subpoenaed to testify to the veracity of any of her pat.net messages.
229   Rin   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 30, 11:47am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

EBGuy says
Why do I have a feeling this will end up as a 48 Hours Mystery on CBS. I wonder if our fearless leader will be subpoenaed to testify to the veracity of any of her pat.net messages.


It might very well be there. Someday, Patrick, as a new celebrity, may find himself on TMZ.
230   Rin   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 30, 12:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

BTW, I work in finance and thus, know a bit about crooks.

The average crook is good at deflection towards narratives, others on the team, etc, etc.

A true psychopath, however, needs none of the aforementioned because for the most part, he doesn't emotionally react to anything. The fact that he says things like 'It's been done' w/o hesitation or needing to reference a case study, imparts a sense of mastery to his target audience. Usually, it takes a long time for such a person to come to justice and as we know about Angelo Mozilo, that didn't really amount to much.
231   Ceffer   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 30, 12:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I loved the way TD tangled with Iwog and left him skinned and yelping away every time over his male dominance chauvinism issues.

Rapid cremation of an 'accident' victim is a suspicion amplifier right there. I would hope it wouldn't be true. She talked a lot about her struggles getting the business going and the risks/rewards. She handled the stresses with aplomb.
232   Rin   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 30, 12:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
I loved the way TD tangled


My blasts with TD were about the notion that relationships and marriage were intrinsically useless and ripe for exploitation. The fact that she thought that hers was an example of its success has got to be the biggest irony of them all.
233   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 30, 1:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
Rapid cremation of an 'accident' victim is a suspicion amplifier right there.


I have also noticed this from watching various TV shows, particularly on the Justice Network. That, and usually no autopsy.
234   BlueSardine   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 30, 2:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I can imagine the questioning...
TMZ: "Patrick, did turtledove ever post about troubles in her family, especially with her husband?"
PATRICK: "FUCK THE REALTORS! FUCKEM!!! THEY CAN GO TO FUCKIN REALTOR HELL!!! GO TO REALTOR HELL REALTORS!!! FUCK YOU REALTORS!!"

Rin says
It might very well be there. Someday, Patrick, as a new celebrity, may find himself on TMZ.
235   BayArea   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 30, 2:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Wow, I’m eager to learn what lead to the arrest...
236   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2019 Apr 30, 2:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

BlueSardine says
PATRICK: "FUCK THE REALTORS! FUCKEM!!! THEY CAN GO TO FUCKIN REALTOR HELL!!! GO TO REALTOR HELL REALTORS!!! FUCK YOU REALTORS!!"
AND I BELIEVE IN TRUMP NO MATTER WHAT!!
237   Shaman   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 30, 3:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I’d like to be a fly on the wall when AF gets deposed.
238   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 30, 4:05pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
I’d like to be a fly on the wall when AF gets deposed.


Ahahahaha! That would be epic!

Btw my guess is IWOG in the study with the candle stick.

What do I win?
239   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 30, 4:05pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
BlueSardine says
PATRICK: "FUCK THE REALTORS! FUCKEM!!! THEY CAN GO TO FUCKIN REALTOR HELL!!! GO TO REALTOR HELL REALTORS!!! FUCK YOU REALTORS!!"
AND I BELIEVE IN TRUMP NO MATTER WHAT!!


Off to the sanitarium with you!
240   indigenous   ignore (0)   2019 Apr 30, 5:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CovfefeButDeadly says
I’d like to be a fly on the wall when AF gets deposed.


That is some funny shit
241   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 30, 8:05pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
AND I BELIEVE IN TRUMP NO MATTER WHAT!!


About time you confessed.
242   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 30, 8:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

BlueSardine says
I can imagine the questioning...
TMZ: "Patrick, did turtledove ever post about troubles in her family, especially with her husband?"
PATRICK: "FUCK THE REALTORS! FUCKEM!!! THEY CAN GO TO FUCKIN REALTOR HELL!!! GO TO REALTOR HELL REALTORS!!! FUCK YOU REALTORS!!"

Rin says
It might very well be there. Someday, Patrick, as a new celebrity, may find himself on TMZ.


I love it! I still feel bad for Turtledove and her kids, but yes that's pretty much what I'd say.
243   ghgsuj   ignore (0)   2019 Apr 30, 9:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anti_forum
244   Automan Empire   ignore (2)   2019 Apr 30, 9:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

EBGuy says
a feeling this will end up as a 48 Hours Mystery on CBS


"Users on the website Philip dot biz reported that the user known as ButtonQuail complained that her husband something something..."
245   HEYYOU   ignore (44)   2019 Apr 30, 11:49pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CovfefeButDeadly says
Off to the sanitarium with you!


Did someone forget where they are?
We are presently in the sanitarium.
246   HEYYOU   ignore (44)   2019 Apr 30, 11:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Live in a shack without stairs.
Better safe than sorry.
247   Suzeyq   ignore (0)   2019 Oct 2, 9:10am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Any updates as to the Doc's demise?
249   dunno   ignore (0)   2019 Oct 3, 7:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Could this be a case of Trump Derangement Syndrome? Turtledove, to my recollection, supported Trump, often quite eloquently. She seemed to be a party of one in that support, arguing with family about it (based on posts here). Her death/probable murder occurred the weekend after Trump's election. Worth considering, IMO.
250   goofus   ignore (0)   2019 Oct 3, 7:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Could this be a case of Trump Derangement Syndrome? Turtledove, to my recollection, supported Trump, often quite eloquently. She seemed to be a party of one in that support, arguing with family about it (based on posts here). Her death/probable murder occurred the weekend after Trump's election. Worth considering, IMO.
251   just_dregalicious   ignore (1)   2019 Oct 3, 8:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

She definitely didn't marry him for his looks. What a creeper!
252   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (4)   2019 Oct 4, 9:28am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick did you try calling the police department mentioned in the article, the information you have might help them solve the case. It might clear the man or prove otherwise, but it might be helpful.
253   WookieMan   ignore (4)   2019 Oct 4, 9:52am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

goofus says
Turtledove, to my recollection, supported Trump, often quite eloquently.


What's your old username? Kind of weird to create two accounts on the same day and comment on something that you seem interested in.... by making the death of someone previously active here political. Low class stuff man, her family has checked in on this site in the past. Hope you got your fun in for the day. Jesus.
254   NDrLoR   ignore (0)   2019 Oct 4, 11:26am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

just_dregalicious says
What a creeper!
Yep, those crazy starring eyes.
255   HEYYOU   ignore (44)   2019 Oct 4, 11:40am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

goofus says

Turtledove, to my recollection, supported Trump, often quite eloquently.

WookieMan says
by making the death of someone previously active here political.


The death of someone does not exonerate their political position while alive.
I wouldn't want to criticize the dead so,fuck all living Trump Rep/Con scum.

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