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Not only will he be toast but so will his Dynasty, family and anyone that ever knew him.

Rabid Weasels Elect Lying Orange Twitch And Are Enraged At Imminent Betrayal!

If Trump thought he could stiff those who zealously supported & voted for him, it was the worst gamble he ever made.

These people are the LEAST forgiving people in American Society, and I guarantee to everyone here that they literally are tracking every fine detail of Trump's moves, and will notice everything & anything that appears to be a double-cross.

The premise of your post is that he will run for re-election in 4 years. I find this highly doubtful. If his health holds, (stress is not his friend) and he isnt impeached I would guess, and it is a guess of course, he will move back to his branding empire. He is not a politician which is what got him elected, why expect him to act like one? Therefore he has carte blanche, only subject to a possible impeachment, to do his Trumpian thing and not be concerned about 4 years from now.

GoldieSacks promised him that the American Public would never find out he really wasn't a billionaire, and have pledged all of their IHLlary speech funds in the future for Trumpligula.

This is not a lesson for donald. He already knows that.
The thing about it is, he doesn't give a fuck about a 2nd term.
He probably never really gave a fuck about a 1st term.
He is going to do what he feels, at that moment in time, is necessary to win. Now. Period.
And the thing about that is, his definition of 'winning' can change on a dime.
So don't waste your time getting all up in arms about broken campaign promises, he never intended to keep any of it.
He, quite simply, will do whatever he feels will make him a winner in his own movie.

He is the wrench that has been thrown into the political machine. No one can accurately predict what the result of that will look like.

AllTruth says

Donald is about to learn a real life lesson fast; the people that voted for you are the same types people who will viciously turn on YOU like rabid animals if you deviate from what you proclaimed while campaigning.

You are thinking like a politician.
Trump will stiff whomever is in his way in his quest to "win", now, according to his personal definition of winning.
It's not a gamble to him, because, in the end, with all his wealth, he doesn't give a fuck whether he's back for more or not...

AllTruth says

If Trump thought he could stiff those who zealously supported & voted for him, it was the worst gamble he ever made.

As a prime example, we see KellyAnn, a primary component of his electoral victory, at the edge of being marginalized due to her hatred of Romney.
And we see Romney, whose savage attacks trump took face on, and gave back to Romney, being on the threshold of SOS.
I'll say it again. With trump, today is today, and tomorrow is a different day with a different set of parameters to "win".
He doesn't give a fuck about who said what to whom....He only wants to "win"...

Goldman Sachs, Romney (Bain) and authoritarians - Im guessing he made a deal with the GOP/RNC and needs to play with their picks. Either he plays the game or we get Pence - not desirable - hopefully he can protect himself and fire these rats.

"He is the wrench that has been thrown into the political machine. No one can accurately predict what the result of that will look like"

And by wrench, you mean glue that makes the current system even tighter. He has doubled down on the worst of the current system.

If Kellyann Conway gets thrown under the bus & Romney is put in at SOS, the backlash from a very angry & loud core will be deafening.

You can claim it won't matter to Trump, but it will when he comes under assault by even by those who voted for and supported him.

Personally, I don't think it will take a Romney nomination - I think Trump is already well on his way to being perceived as stabbing his base in the back.

You Trump voters feeling like Charlie Brown yet?

It's going to feel more as if Trump successfully conned 62 million Americans with each passing day.

Few of them will wish they had voted for Hillary, but a large, fiercely passionate chunk of that 62 million will turn hostile towards Trump.

Steve Bannon is obviously losing the behind-the-scenes battles to the establishment types.

Some very good points here,but this is patnet.
We'll not be ahavin' any part of anything that makes the slightest sense.
Voting has consequences.
Looking forward to how much buyers remorse will be suffered.
The remorse may be on the Democrats for
nominating Hillary.

Ceffer says

You Trump voters feeling like Charlie Brown yet?

It will take more than appointments of the usual suspects but it looks like the dye is being cast for the makings of something to capture some of the 62 million who voted for him (He in himself was already that, for those of us that knew better.). I think the real issue with Trump will be what battleground the fight is chosen. Trump is going to continue to provide us ample things to rail at ... likely some good impeachable offenses too.

Let's take the flag burning comments for instance. Both grand in implication but minor in result. It's very symbolic in nature only. The problem is, we can spend a huge amount of political capital fighting the battle of 1st amendment rights ... which I believe would be strongly justified ... but in the end we gain what? It's also a non-unifier issue and strong touchpoint for flag-wavy types. You don't get a lot of rust belt heartland over hippie kale protest issues like flag burning. Not the issue we want and this is really just Trump's big mouth. Little substance behind what he said in my estimation.

The game now is all about choosing the right battleground to set off the effects we want. I was leaning voter rights, but I actually think the best issue, the one which gets us a huge chunk of that 62 mil, will be campaign finance/dark money/Citizens United. Trumps business dealings will also provide fertile ground. So the issue is 'big money rules Washington, and the middle class is still left out'. That's where I lean right now, as far as where to fight down the orange buffoon.

We wait, watch the bumbling, and try not to get distracted ... for now. Wait for the sign. We will know it when we see it. ;)

Just wait until he declares amnesty for 14 million illegal aliens.
There will be tears!

"At this point what difference does it make?"

After a while, Trumpligula will just be wandering around the White House screaming and mumbling, with everybody going about their business and ignoring him.

The shadow government has probably already taken him to the woodshed i.e.his choices: 1. Capitulate and be showered with fake honors, glory, and free passes for life 2. Rebel, and have your remaining life made a living hell.

jazz music says

if we don't stand up now we may never have another election again.

You give far too much gravity and weight to Trump. He/the administration will not destroy the US.

The standing up right now is in the realm of counter $s:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/york-times-subscription-growth-soars-163039312.html
http://www.amny.com/news/donald-trump-s-election-sparks-jump-in-nyc-planned-parenthood-support-1.12691793
http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/donations-rain-aclu-trump-win

The cartoon is perfect. As the cartoon shows, we ignore the sensational misdirection. Trump would really be scary if that was actually calculated political misdirection. It isn't though. He is a creature of the moment tweeting crap after watching FOX. That's exactly where the flag burning BS came from.

Your linked article:
"There are plenty of answers, but one of them is that we have simply been outspent. Not by a little, but by orders of magnitude. A few billion dollars spent on persuasion buys you all the politics you want."

Which is why the fight ISN'T 1st amend. messaging/media. That's the gun. The battle is the funding itself. The $s are the bullets. This strengthens my belief prior:

Rew says

The game now is all about choosing the right battleground to set off the effects we want. I was leaning voter rights, but I actually think the best issue, the one which gets us a huge chunk of that 62 mil, will be campaign finance/dark money/Citizens United. Trumps business dealings will also provide fertile ground. So the issue is 'big money rules Washington, and the middle class is still left out'. That's where I lean right now, as far as where to fight down the orange buffoon.

We take the anti-intellectualism, the mob, and turn it against the now establishment looking Trump admin.

jazz music says

The power of civil disobedience and non-cooperation must be brought to bear, and people need to show that they are willing to risk something to have their voices heard. No government has ever withstood that kind of pressure from the governed. I doubt that the pressure of advertising alone will change our course to totalitarian fascism.

I agree but you cannot chase every lure put in front of you like the cartoon illustrates, and you need some of the 62 million that just voted this shit show into power. The Trump admin will try and walk some civil liberties back, and there will be resistance at every step. The point is there is no galvanizing cause to rally around and take to the streets on ... yet. Trump alone isn't it. Appointments aren't it. Tweet storms from tiny-tiny hands aren't something a rallying cry can be made of. (There is no Zimmerman telegram here.)

I agree on the need to be vigilant and engaged. I feel something IS likely to come that is a rallying point for a counter movement. We need to watch for it, and resist the rollback of what has been gained as we wait. We are not going back. Dang right.

At this point, it's a bit like you are calling to fire at targets that are blurry and not even in range. We know they are coming, but they aren't in office, and haven't legislated anything yet.

Trump is a little Mussolini-esq because he loves to use the press so much, plays a game to try and silence opposition, control the media, etc. Hitler, Nazis and a police state this just is not. That's gross hyperbole. We are massively free to organize and voice criticism. The US isn't even close to being that far gone.

Trump has come into power already the most historically disliked president elect ever. He and those he draws into his power circle, I think, are going to get schooled.

Rew says

jazz music says

The power of civil disobedience and non-cooperation must be brought to bear, and people need to show that they are willing to risk something to have their voices heard. No government has ever withstood that kind of pressure from the governed. I doubt that the pressure of advertising alone will change our course to totalitarian fascism.

Hey bro, we just had an election. The people want Trump. someone please tell Jazz what democracy means.