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Shaman
2017 Jan 14, 6:08am
Hey if the epically sick die, as is the fate of all men, then the rest of the population gains. This is a fact.
Gary Anderson
2017 Jan 14, 7:23am
. There will not be the money to pay for these very sick patients.
Wow, death panels.
Tenpoundbass
2017 Jan 14, 8:00am
We're going to see Trump create a Healthcare system after he repeals the insurance paywall system.
Obamacare did nothing to change healthcare only who gets paid who gets exclusive rights to the insured bank accounts.
I think we could see some McDonald style menu boards at the hospitals.
Go to the Emergency room and you'll be like...
"Yeah... Um... Give me Stitches and Uh... uh... tetanus shot, can I get pain killers with that?"
"OH! Never mind I only have $100. Scratch the pain killers I'll pick up some weed on the way home. "
deepcgi
2017 Jan 14, 8:30am
The USA is also the center of all biomedical technology, research, development, and funding. The rest of the world can socialize their medicine and rest assured, for now, that we will keep developing new procedures, tech, and medicine. If you pull the plug on that cash cow, the smart kids won't want to be doctors when they grow up any more.
Welcome to worldwide socialized medicine. That weezing and sparking machine over in the corner is your heart pump, and the surgeon who is cutting you open later today got a 71 on his Advanced Circulatory Final at Baylor Medical.
But hey, Its all cheaper than it used to be!
Why should the rest of the country have to pay for YOUR addictions and LACK of self control for the SELF-INDUCED medical conditions?????????
Interesting idea - if you are sick solely because of your genes, OK. But if you have heart disease because of poor lifestyle practices, too bad.
self-inflicted?
Hypothetically, implementing such a change would require advance warning. Your proposal is to reward preventative care.
Shaman
2017 Jan 14, 9:06am
Alaska also has zero income tax, zero state sales tax, cuts property tax to .25 for seniors, and actually GIVES every man, woman, and baby a check each year which varies between $1000 and $1800 depending on earnings.
Obamas deal with OPEC to destroy the domestic oil industry while turning Syria into a Hell hole also hurt Alaska.
Obama is like flesh eating bacteria, super harmful, and hard to get rid of! Good thing we got Agent Trump for that!
Obamas deal with OPEC to destroy the domestic oil industry while turning Syria into a Hell hole also hurt Alaska.
Which deal was that? Link?
anotheraccount
2017 Jan 14, 9:53am
The 500 sickest and most expensive patients were taken out of the insurance pool.
This is is not that different from what ObamaCare does right now. Many of the sickest patients are not in the insurance pulls. In California, they are part of MediCal which the state pays for and is subsidized by ObamaCare.
Tenpoundbass
2017 Jan 14, 10:52am
Actually my new dog won't even eat the stuff either
I think you got triggered by one word and didn't read the rest of my post.
I was alluding to huge plastic backlit signs with prices and combo prices for procedures and drugs. Like you see in a fast food restaurant, and Bank counters employ to entice you to buy one of their financial products.
Booger
2017 Jan 14, 11:55am
There will not be the money to pay for these very sick patients.
That is what M134's are for.
Strategist
2017 Jan 14, 12:40pm
Can you make a compelling argument why the tax dollars I pay in NJ should go to this woman's medical care?
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This is why we need a "fat and sugar" tax. The money can be used to subsidize health care.
Shaman
2017 Jan 14, 12:52pm
I have a brother in law in upper management at a major oil company working in Alaska. He says a series of hostile department of interior secretaries have mostly shut down new well drilling in Alaska despite oceans of oil found and painstaking care to protect the environment. Obama was the worst for this, compounding the problem with a deal with OPEC for them to increase production massively to crash oil prices to hurt Russia. In return he would allow and help supply Saudi fighters to oust Assad in Syria. Why? Obama wanted to hurt Russia in the pocketbook. And the Saudis wanted to build a pipeline through Syria and turkey to Europe, but Assad was standing in the way.
Ceffer
2017 Jan 14, 12:55pm
There is no such thing as TrumpCare, only TrumpDoesn'tGiveAFlyingFuckDon'tCare.
Obama was the worst for this, compounding the problem with a deal with OPEC for them to increase production massively to crash oil prices to hurt Russia.
I'll ask again--source?
RWSGFY
2017 Jan 14, 1:33pm
Obamas deal with OPEC to destroy the domestic oil industry while turning Syria into a Hell hole also hurt Alaska.
Tell us more!
Shaman
2017 Jan 14, 2:14pm
BAO your answer that "environmentally sensitive areas" shouldn't be sources of oil (along with the assumption that this area includes all of Alaska) is the reason why the state feels so put upon by Bay Area armchair environmentalists. It's fine for you all to drill in your own States but not fine under any conditions for Alaska. Considering that aside from the fishing industry and three months of tourism, Alaska has only oil as an industry, this makes for permanent depression if oil is suppressed.
It would be like taking away the biggest factory from a two factory small town and then expecting the residents to find other work.
Trump will allow Alaska to develop its natural resources, sustainably and responsibly. Alaskans don't want their environment destroyed, but neither do they want zero economy. Remember, a lot of green (parasitical) jobs are created by the oil industry. Anyway there is no way you'll convince me of your arms-length point.
Strategist
2017 Jan 14, 2:51pm
BAO your answer that "environmentally sensitive areas" shouldn't be sources of oil (along with the assumption that this area includes all of Alaska) is the reason why the state feels so put upon by Bay Area armchair environmentalists. It's fine for you all to drill in your own States but not fine under any conditions for Alaska. Considering that aside from the fishing industry and three months of tourism, Alaska has only oil as an industry, this makes for permanent depression if oil is suppressed.
It would be like taking away the biggest factory from a two factory small town and then expecting the residents to find other work.
Alaska is too dependent on oil, a dirty and polluting natural resource. As alternative fuels roll in, the demand for oil will eventually decline along with the price. What will Alaska do then? It's in the same spot as OPEC, and i feel no sympathy towards OPEC. Alaska is a huge state with lots of natural resources. It will need to diversify.
Being the husband of a doctor I am watching closely the repeal of Obamacare and the replacement with Trumpcare. Unfortunately health care is very expensive in this country. You can cut the costs somewhat by reigning in the outrageous prices that pharmaceutical companies charge for drugs. You can also start a competitive bidding procedure where patients can shop around for the cheapest costs of their treatments.(i.e. a hip replacement can have several different prices in a given city and great price differences for different states.) You can also set up a system where health insurance companies sell nationwide and compete with each other. (Look at what happens when you're looking for other kinds of insurance and go to a website like esurance or others that give you bids of term insurance policies.) In the rush to replace Obamacare there will not be the time right now to do this.
People buying health insurance are enraged over high premiums and high deductibles. Trumpcare will move to address this. I have been telling everyone that the end product voted on by congress and signed off on by Donald Trump will have elements like what was done in Alaska. The 500 sickest and most expensive patients were taken out of the insurance pool. These patients cost insurance companies and the state of Alaska over $55,000,000 per year. When this happened premium increases dropped to 7% per year and deductibles dropped. In the case of Alaska it is a very rich state due to oil and gas revenues. The state appropriated another $55,000,000 to pay for these very sick patients.
The rest of the US is not wealthy in the sense that Alaska is. There will not be the money to pay for these very sick patients. This will be a challenge for the states,etc.