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Yet another American president sucking saudi dick. At least some things never change.

Ironman says

Really??

Didn't read your own link, did you??

......"The order also creates an “extreme vetting” process for any and all immigrants and visitors to the U.S. "

So you don't understand the difference between banned and extreme vetting? I would expect that.

Well I agree that SA and Pakistan should absolutely be on the list. And while I don't know how they came up the list, AT LEAST THERE IS A GODDAM LIST! Obama was just opening the doors for the terrorists!
This comparison is apples to a shit sandwich!

joeyjojojunior says

Notably absent from the executive order:

Saudi Arabia

Pakistan

Russia (this is where the Boston bombers were from)

Before this is all over libbies hope to get on schindler's...

Quigley says

And while I don't know how they came up the list, AT LEAST THERE IS A GODDAM LIST!

It's amazing--the Muslim countries notably absent from the list are all places where Trump has business dealings. Imagine that.

DRAIN THE SWAMP BABY

anonymous says

Green card holders included in Trump ban

This will cause a lot of hardship, unnecessarily. People will find themselves locked out while on business trips... I have a friend in this situation.

I do wonder if this isn't Trump trolling the Leftist media once again. Leaving out a few obvious terror hotspots makes for articles, and then he can say, "Well, ok! Since you asked, I'll ban them too!"

Quigley says

I do wonder if this isn't Trump trolling the Leftist media once again. Leaving out a few obvious terror hotspots makes for articles, and then he can say, "Well, ok! Since you asked, I'll ban them too!"

How wonderful if that were true. Our President uses foreign policy as a tool to troll the media. Next he'll execute some innocent people to get back at CNN.

We do need to remember who the real enemies are: CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and Madonna.

Ironman says

joeyjojojunior says

the Muslim countries notably absent from the list are all places where Trump has business dealings.

Which countries would that be?

He left out Egypt, UAE, Saudi (possibly), Azerbaijan, Indonesia

If Europe doesn't take those banned, then it puts pressure on Saudi and other prosperous middle eastern countries to make a decision on them.

Hard vetting of afghanis, Pakistanis and saudis, means that far fewer will come through than before.

Will be interesting to see Saudi have to make decisions on what to do with refugees, since they won't be coming to US

joeyjojojunior says

It's amazing--the Muslim countries notably absent from the list are all places where Trump has business dealings. Imagine that.

Well if refugees from those countries funded by Saudi aren't coming, then its not exactly easy Street for saudis and emiratis

I hear he has plans to deport native Americans back to Kamchatka.

Quigley says

I do wonder if this isn't Trump trolling the Leftist media once again. Leaving out a few obvious terror hotspots makes for articles, and then he can say, "Well, ok! Since you asked, I'll ban them too!"

Even if Trump is only inadvertently trolling the press here, it's a very good thing to have the extremely close connection between Saudi and terrorism front and center in the public discussion.

Quigley says

We do need to remember who the real enemies are: CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and Madonna.

You forgot Shia LeBouf.

rando says

Even if Trump is only inadvertently trolling the press here, it's a very good thing to have the extremely close connection between Saudi and terrorism front and center in the public discussion.

Wouldn't it be better to have that discussion after he banned Saudis?

No, I like this because it points out the corrupting influence of the Saudi trillions on our political leaders.

1. Saudi and the Gulf states do not take in Syrian Refugees. They do allow guest workers, but they must come to a pre-arranged job, and ONLY Sunnis are admitted - no Druze, no Christians, and of course no Shi'a or Alawites. The Jihadi insurgents in Syria are... Sunni.

2. Iraqi refugees have been convicted of supporting Sunni Jihadi groups with money and arms smuggling.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdtx/pr/iraqi-refugee-convicted-attempting-provide-material-support-isil

2b. And for using IEDs against US troops, before migrating to the USA
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/louisville/press-releases/2013/former-iraqi-terrorists-living-in-kentucky-sentenced-for-terrorist-activities

3. Protecting LGBTQ, Minorities, Women and American Values generally:

In order to protect Americans, the United States must ensure that those admitted to this country do not bear hostile attitudes toward it and its founding principles. The United States cannot, and should not, admit those who do not support the Constitution, or those who would place violent ideologies over American law. In addition, the United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including "honor" killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation.

The above text is excellent. There are a million or more Christian workers in Saudi Arabia. Churches are forbidden by law. Official Sunni Leaders paid by the state call for Church removal all over the MENA. Yet Saudis and their front groups bitch about the least prejudice towards Sunnis in EU and USA.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/destroy-all-the-churches-saudi-arabias-poor-treatment-of-christians/254650/

Quigley says

I do wonder if this isn't Trump trolling the Leftist media once again. Leaving out a few obvious terror hotspots makes for articles, and then he can say, "Well, ok! Since you asked, I'll ban them too!"

rando says

No, I like this because it points out the corrupting influence of the Saudi trillions on our political leaders.

I hope this is the case. "Why are you complaining? You guys ran countless articles in January saying we should ban Saudi Arabians, if anything!"

If he did ban Saudi immigration, they'd be Shrieking: he's only hurting liberals and moderates, creating instability that will jack up oil prices and hurt the economy, is attacking an "Ally" (LOL), helping the Ayatollah, putting big Saudi Investment money in Equities at risk, etc. etc. etc.

This is a great executive order.

All of these termporarily banned countries are united have experienced domestic turmoil, with religion being a key component, which breeds terrorism.

It explicitly exempts those fleeing for political or religious minority oppression from the ban. Which means we can welcome Syrian Christians fleeing ISIS.

It makes the vetting process uniform, without 'special emergency rapid approval' from people from war-torn countries where one could expect many radicalized people to come from. Requires in-person interviews.

He makes reciprocity the order of the day, countries that put Americans through the nth degree (to make sure for one, that they aren't missionaries) will get the same treatment.

He is reviewing the "Visa Express" which ridiculously was re-applied to Saudis, allowing them to come here without an in-person interview at the Embassy or Consulate first.

In short:
www.Z5-rdr0qhWk

Not surprisingly, TLL Lips loves this order despite that fact that it doesn't include any of the countries that have actually exported terrorism to the USA.

Once again, he has shown his ridiculous hypocrisy when it comes to anything Trump does. After spending countless posts criticizing Clinton for her close ties to Saudi Arabia and explaining how Saudi is the problem with the Middle East, TLL is happy when they are excluded from the immigration ban. Because.... well, because he's happy with anything Trump says or does.

TLL and Patrick can rationalize this any way they want, but the bottom line is that Trump has once again shown he is no better than any other politician when it comes to Saudi Arabia. Just like he did when it came to Wall St. And everything else he's done so far. He's got all the worst qualities of every politician, along with his narcissism, low attention span, questionable judgment, and thin skin. Woo-hoo. Great job Trumpkins.