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Ironman says

bob2356 says

Police, fire, highways and parks as benefits to illegals?

Yes, not a single illegal uses any municipal or federally provided services, support or infrastructure. Thanks for proving to everyone again how big of an idiot you are.

Why did you pass over this fact?

Perfect, dufus dipshit strikes again. An illegal family that uses a highway is the same as

taxpayer-funded programs that benefit illegal immigrants in the United States, such as direct financial transfers, medical benefits, food assistance, and education,

Try to stay up with the adults. It's hard, but try. Do you suppose that illegals pay taxes on their gas the same as everyone else to fund the highways? Pay real estate taxes for schools and municipal expenses when they pay their rent? Duh.

Ironman says

Ironman says

In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers.

No bullshit to spew about that fact??

There is no fact there. It's a bunch of totally unrelated numbers thrown together. Since you are mathematically illiterate there is absolutely no point in me trying to explain the huge gaping holes in the methodology.

Ironman says

bob2356 says

Children born in the US are US citizens. They are not illegals.

Who do they live with?

Irrelevant. They could be adopted or in an orphanage, they are still citizens the same as you.

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Illegal aliens across America are ... filing tax returns with an IRS “ITIN” number, and listing children as dependents who live in MEXICO — or who do not even exist at all.

This fraud is costing taxpayers an insane $4.2 BILLION every year. ...

People are ignorant as hell to think that the wall could possibly deliver the desired effects.

If people want to enter the country illegally through the southern border, they still will just the same. It will just make it more expensive, and dangerous. Which is fuel to the Black Market fire.

The wall could wind up making drug crimes worse. Attempting to restrict supply while doing nothing to address demand is a recipe for higher prices, which always make for more incentives to get the drugs here.

Simple market forces here, people.

Ironman says

Translation: I can't dispute the fact that the federal benefits that go to these children aren't also used by the illegal parents

Translation, I made a stupid statement and now am trying to dance around it.

Ironman says

: Fuck, I can't believe how much these illegals siphon off the system. Ironman made me look like a blubbering idiot.... again...

Translation, I made two stupid statements and now think that means I have an imaginary "victory" to go with my imaginary bovine lovers. The only blubbering is you trying to make your idiocy match up to the original point of the post.

errc says

Attempting to restrict supply while doing nothing to address demand

How would you propose we "address demand" for cocaine, heroine and meth?

carrieon says

100 billion/yr, annual cost to support illegal immigrants

40 billion, one time cost to build wall

Cost to stop paying illegals welfare benefits: $0
Cost to stop paying illegals all benefits: $0
Cost to stop schooling illegals: $0
Cost to prosecute employers who hire under the table: A lot less than 40 billion. And that's how much we'd save if we implemented all of the above.

No wall, come on in! But when you get here no work, no handouts, no medical care, and no education.

Straw Man says

How would you propose we "address demand" for cocaine, heroine and meth?

Seriously!? Umm, just let free markets work it out naturally. You know, like they do for ever other product people voluntarily put into their own bodies...