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10 Steps to Letting Go of Resentment

1. Approach resentment as the addictive state of mind it is.
2. Realize that you are using resentment to replicate old dramas and acknowledge that you cannot change the past.
3. Examine how your resentment may come from mentally confusing people in your present life with people from your past.
4. Acknowledge that you cannot control those who have rejected you.
5. Recognize that your resentment gives you only illusions of strength. Instead, highlight and validate your real strength and power.
6. Learn to identify signals that provoke resentment. Apply the acronym HALT, widely used in 12-step programs: Hungry, Angry, Lonely, and Tired.
7. Practice cognitive behavioral techniques to stop indulging in resentment. Put a thought between your feelings of resentment and indulging in ruminating about them.
8. Acknowledge your part in allowing the abuse to occur, forgive yourself for that, and make a decision to not let it occur again.
9. Declare an amnesty with the person you resent and with yourself.
10. Forgive when you can, and practice willful and deliberate forgetfulness when you cannot, keeping in mind that these acts are gifts to yourself rather than capitulation to the people you resent.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-therapist-is-in/201103/10-steps-letting-go-resentment

@Dan8267 wow, that second video was spot-on!

Islam and the Christian right also have a lot in common. Islam, the left, and the right are all conservatives.

www.youtube.com/embed/KYV7KWQ-fY4

Dan8267 says

Islam and the Christian right also have a lot in common.

I disagree. The founders of the two religions were very different: one preached non-violence and got killed, the other preached violence and killed lots of people.

The similarities mostly come from their common origins in Judaism.

I'm talking about the similarity of the ideologies of the followers, which is all that matters. See above video.

Patrick says

"You oppress us!"

Doesn't anyone realize that people ENJOY being offended? It makes life so much more interesting. Louis Auchincloss recognized that nearly 70 years ago when his volume of short stories "The Injustice Collectors" was first pubished in 1950--people described as seeming to get no pleasure out of life unless they felt like they were being mistreated.

Dan8267 says

I'm talking about the similarity of the ideologies of the followers, which is all that matters. See above video.

Also see everything Fort Wayne, the poster boy for Christian values, says in the thread Another reason to revoke religious privilege and ban religions

Strategist says

I see nothing wrong with the pictures.

(referring to pictures of torture)

Christianity in the United States has not been kind. It has been violent, genocidal, and utterly despicable. And given that Fort Wayne is typical of the Christian right, it's impossible to square with reality the idea that Christianity promotes morality and kindness.

P N Dr Lo R says

people described as seeming to get no pleasure out of life unless they felt like they were being mistreated

That does seem to be true for some people.

Dan8267 says

Christianity in the United States has not been kind. It has been violent, genocidal, and utterly despicable.

I disagree. The early Puritans were hardly models of enlightenment, but I don't see a history of much violence due to Christianity in the US.

The "genocide" of the Indians was mostly smallpox, as I've pointed out before.

P N Dr Lo R says

"The Injustice Collectors" was first pubished in 1950

The concept seems to have been rediscovered recently:

http://now.howstuffworks.com/2015/12/16/getting-to-know-injustice-collectors

Former FBI profiler Mary Ellen O’Toole, Ph.D., defines an injustice collector as someone who "nurses resentment over real or perceived injustices, and no matter how much time has passed … will never forget or forgive those wrongs or the people he/she believes are responsible."

O’Toole coined and defined the phrase "injustice collector" in her 2000 FBI threat-assessment study after the 1999 Columbine High School massacre.

Injustice collectors obsessively keep track of every perceived wrong committed against them, maintaining enormous caches of grievances that go back years or decades. Many of those wrongs never actually happened. The ones that did are almost invariably trivial.

"His versions of events are often skewed, distorted, embellished or completely misinterpreted to the point of being absurd or ridiculous," writes O’Toole via email, "and many of the people on his lists probably have no idea what they did."

I think this "injustice collection" mental process truly is at the core of Islam in particular. I've read the Koran and it reeks of resentment against those who refuse to become Muslims.

Feminists are mere pikers at this game, even if it is the same game for them too.

Interesting thought Patrick. But isn't there a difference between a person who lets resentment control them and a person who takes their resentment to the next level and seeks to control others?

rando says

10 Steps to Letting Go of Resentment

1. Approach resentment as the addictive state of mind it is.
2. Realize that you are using resentment to replicate old dramas and acknowledge that you cannot change the past.
3. Examine how your resentment may come from mentally confusing people in your present life with people from your past.
4. Acknowledge that you cannot control those who have rejected you.
5. Recognize that your resentment gives you only illusions of strength. Instead, highlight and validate your real strength and power.
6. Learn to identify signals that provoke resentment. Apply the acronym HALT, widely used in 12-step programs: Hungry, Angry, Lonely, and Tired.
7. Practice cognitive behavioral techniques to stop indulging in resentment. Put a thought between your feelings of resentment and indulging in ruminating about them.
8. Acknowledge your part in allowing the abuse to occur, forgive yourself for that, and make a deci...

Are you trying to suck ALL of the joy out of life?

I like the chick fourth from the right. I would hit that.

rando says

the core of Islam

It may seem counterintuitive, but the violence wreaked by Islam and its followers comes from a sense of weakness and inferiority as compared to their targets, not one of strength and confidence.

Dan8267 says

Christianity in the United States has not been kind. It has been violent, genocidal, and utterly despicable

and runs the hospitals, the shelters, missions, Salvation Army, Goodwill Industries and virtually any other benevolence you can think of while atheism does squat.

Dan8267 says

It has been violent, genocidal, and utterly despicable.

The key word is "HAS"
Islam on the other end "IS"

P N Dr Lo R says

Dan8267 says

Christianity in the United States has not been kind. It has been violent, genocidal, and utterly despicable

and runs the hospitals, the shelters, missions, Salvation Army, Goodwill Industries and virtually any other benevolence you can think of while atheism does squat.

Pretty much every scientific and technological advancement in the past 100 years has been done by atheists, agnostics, or secularists. So yes, if we're counting the number of lives saved, my team is way ahead of yours.

More importantly saving the entire human race requires rejecting religion particularly Christianity. Your religion causes people who head policy to reject the truth of climate change and that endangers us all. Idiots like John Shimkus think that climate change can't harm us because his god promised Noah that the world won't be destroyed by flood, and this asshole heads the Subcommittee on Environment and the Economy. He's responsible for climate change policy.

Well, I can't even give you the blockquote here because of the stupid comment limit. So next post...

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A Republican congressman hoping to chair the powerful House Energy Committee refers to the Bible and God on the issue of global warming.

Representative John Shimkus insists we shouldn't concerned about the planet being destroyed because God promised Noah it wouldn't happen again after the great flood.

Speaking before a House Energy Subcommittee on Energy and Environment hearing in March, 2009, Shimkus quoted Chapter 8, Verse 22 of the Book of Genesis.

He said: 'As long as the earth endures, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, will never cease.'
Quizzed: Illinois Republican Representative John Shimkus answers questions for reporters after appearing before the House ethics committee

Quizzed: Illinois Republican Representative John Shimkus answers questions for reporters after appearing before the House ethics committee

The Illinois Republican continued: 'I believe that is the infallible word of God, and that's the way it is going to be for his creation.

'The earth will end only when God declares its time to be over. Man will not destroy this earth. This earth will not be destroyed by a flood.

He added: 'Today we have about 388 parts per million in the atmosphere. I think in the age of dinosaurs, when we had the most flora and fauna, we were probably at 4,000 parts per million. There is a theological debate that this is a carbon-starved planet — not too much carbon. And the cost of a cap-and-trade on the poor is now being discovered.'

The Republican is a vocal opponent to President Obama's American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 - the so-called 'cap-and-trade' Bill, aimed at limiting carbon emissions.

So don't tell me that Christianity increases the survivability of our species or has a net increase in saved lives.

The bottom line is that no good ever attributed to Christianity requires the belief in a false god. However, the evil caused by Christianity is intrinsic to Christianity.

Without Christianity, parents would still love their children. But with Christianity, parents might not love their gay children. That is what it comes down to.

Morality may persist despite a religion, but not because of it. Real morality comes from empathy and rational thought, not superstitions.

Strategist says

Dan8267 says

It has been violent, genocidal, and utterly despicable.

The key word is "HAS"

Islam on the other end "IS"

1. Although Christianity has been largely neutered, it still does evil. Just look at Fort Wayne or George W. Bush.
2. There is no down side to getting rid of Christianity, and many up sides.
3. Your objection is temporal arbitrariness. There is nothing special about the particular moment now. In the future Christianity could easily become more extreme. There was a time when Islam was far more tolerant, and Christianity was basically what Islam is today. This could easily happen again. Christianity could easily become radicalized. All irrational world views can become radicalized.
4. If you waved a magic wand and converted all Muslims to Christian, they would just start waging Jihad in the name of Christ instead of the name of Mohamed. The irrationality is the root of the problem, not the arbitrary holy book or rituals.

Dan8267 says

Pretty much every scientific and technological advancement in the past 100 years has been done by atheists, agnostics, or secularists

J. Robert Openheimer among them.

P N Dr Lo R says

Dan8267 says

Pretty much every scientific and technological advancement in the past 100 years has been done by atheists, agnostics, or secularists

J. Robert Openheimer among them.

Openheimer didn't say to drop the bomb on Japan. That was a Christian.

Technology is neither good nor evil, except how we use it. And historically, Christians have chosen to use every technological advancement for evil. Not just nuclear fission and fusion but also airplanes, boats, gun powder, and metallurgy.

Once again, my team scores far higher than yours on the morality scale. Care to revise more history?

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/04/where_the_left_and_islam_intersect.html

Curious how the godless left and Islam share a critical aim.  They both wish to subjugate infidels, though how infidel is defined differs.  But who the infidels are isn’t.  We are, of course, the infidels.  We of western virtues and values.  We who hold to Judeo-Christian beliefs.  We’re obstacles to glorious futures for both.  Both want us consigned to dhimmitude.  Yes, dhimmitude.  That’s second class status, with tribute being paid for the privilege.

P N Dr Lo R says

by Islam and its followers comes from a sense of weakness and inferiority as compared to their targets, not one of strength and confidence.

Sounds awful lot like the "bullies bully due to low self esteem" shibboleth

Not really buying it

Dan said: "the irrationality is the problem, not the arbitrary holy book or rituals."

And here you said it right mostly. Religious belief is only a net negative when it causes people to act against their own self interest or the freedom of others to do the same.

Evil people have and probably will continue to use religion to justify their evil acts. And religion is one vehicle that evil people use to deceive good people into allowing the evil. However some religions (or one in particular) hold subjugation and elimination of non-adherents as an ideal and desired end game. Therefore some religions are evil by nature.

"For some time, an argument has been made that the liberal left, in refusing to examine the problems of Islam, has betrayed its Enlightenment roots.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/04/where_the_left_and_islam_intersect.html#ixzz4ZzEZ9MqL
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For sure, left is pretentious and anti-Enlightenment.
About 10% of Evangelical Christians, I would say

PeopleUnited says

Dan said: "the irrationality is the problem, not the arbitrary holy book or rituals."

And here you said it right mostly. Religious belief is only a net negative when it causes people to act against their own self interest or the freedom of others to do the same.

Any philosophy based on lies and deliberate disregard for reality is prone to abuse, inherently irrational, and ultimately will become corrupt. There are no up sides to basing your world view on lies and misrepresentations of reality. Name one thing that religion does that cannot be done more honestly, transparently, and incorruptibly without religion.

ja says

liberal left

An oxymoron. The left, the right, pseudo-feminists, and Islamists are all conservative tribes. They push different cultures, but they all use the state for force their culture on others and believe their culture should crush all others. That is the defining characteristic of conservatism. LIberalism is the exact opposite. The word liberal literally means "free from restraint" or "let it go". Liberals are open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values. Conservatives, including leftists, want to push specific opinions and traditions onto others. The left has a culture they want to force onto others. They are, by definition, conservatives. They are conserving their culture and their traditions.

It should be obvious to everyone that the left, the right, pseudo-feminists, and Islamists are all manifestations of the anti-thesis of liberalism just with different cultures and traditions. Any time one of these groups complains about another, it is acting hypocritically.

Dan said "It should be obvious to everyone that the left, the right, pseudo-feminists, and Islamists are all manifestations of the anti-thesis of liberalism just with different cultures and traditions. Any time one of these groups complains about another, it is acting hypocritically."

You are right Dan it should be obvious that using the power of the state to coerce and conserve an agenda/culture is illiberal, whether it be leftists, communists or right wingers. However the state run schools, and corporate media have worked for years to hide their agenda of controlling the masses by promoting the false choice of one statist regime or the other ( republican vs democrat). These masters of miseducation are adept at newspeak and have even redefined words to suit the narrative.

Dan said: "Any philosophy based on lies and deliberate disregard for reality is prone to abuse, inherently irrational, and ultimately will become corrupt."

I would agree with this wholeheartedly. In fact deliberate disregard for reality is a defining characteristic of those who reject God. During your study of the Bible, I am sure this fact did not escape you, even if most of "Christianity" failed to act on its truth.

PeopleUnited says

In fact deliberate disregard for reality is a defining characteristic of those who reject God.

Feel free to support that assertion with evidence.

If there were actual evidence that any god, even Satan, were real, I'd be the first to endorse belief in it. I'm married to no position except the truth.

Dan8267 says

Feel free to support that assertion with evidence.

If there were actual evidence that any god, even Satan, were real, I'd be the first to endorse belief in it. I'm married to no position except the truth.

If a Christian meets someone with so-called occult abilities or recalls a past life, that person is marked as "a Devil's disciple", etc. And thus, Christians aren't even able to face the so-called "competition" to their own faith by others around them.

That's why ppl like P N Dr Lo R need a baseball bat through their collective heads. That'll at least teach him some respect for those who don't believe in his BS.

PeopleUnited says

However the state run schools, and corporate media have worked for years to hide their agenda of controlling the masses by promoting the false choice of one statist regime or the other ( republican vs democrat). These masters of miseducation are adept at newspeak and have even redefined words to suit the narrative.

B-b-but Trump and his cohorts invented fake news

Rin says

If a Christian meets someone with so-called occult abilities or recalls a past life, that person is marked as "a Devil's disciple", etc

Yes, Christianity like all other religions promotes narrow-mindedness, conformity, and a herd mentality. It makes citizens easier to control, which is why the state loves religion, but that means government is less accountable and likely to be reformed.

Dan8267 says

Rin says

If a Christian meets someone with so-called occult abilities or recalls a past life, that person is marked as "a Devil's disciple", etc

Yes, Christianity like all other religions promotes narrow-mindedness, conformity, and a herd mentality. It makes citizens easier to control, which is why the state loves religion, but that means government is less accountable and likely to be reformed.

In other words, to P N Dr Lo R and others like him, Fuck You!

Rin says

recalls a past life,

And Christians are delusional?

P N Dr Lo R says

Rin says

recalls a past life,

And Christians are delusional?

You mean that it's not ALL ABOUT FAITH?

Seriously, when someone else injects an alternate spiritual belief, these born-again types try to fall back to objective reality as if Jesus is standing right next to them, during the discussion, lending his silent presence.

Once again, P N Dr Lo is a fucking hypocrite!

Show me the presence of Jesus, you fucking delusional liar!

Dan, please rip this P.O.S apart.

Anyone who believes that Jesus rose from the dead has no grasp on reality and should not be treated like an adult. Adults don't believe in fairy tales. There is nothing respectable about anyone who believes in any of the supernatural bullshit in the Bible.

But what about the Immaculate Reception?

Ball don't lie

Dan8267 says

Yes, Christianity like all other religions promotes narrow-mindedness, conformity, and a herd mentality. It makes citizens easier to control, which is why the state loves religion, but that means government is less accountable and likely to be reformed.

Religion can be used to control the masses via government, but it can also lead the masses to revolt against government, that's why religion as much feared as it is welcome, possibly feared more than welcome by governments.