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Rew says

or the imbalance in the economy, which you and I agree is present.

You havent been paying attention.

BlueSardine says

A personal opinion based on your definition of "worst".

Everyone's definition of "worst" will be influenced by their personal pet peeves...

Destabilizing the entire mid east, invading a country on totally false information with thousands of american soldiers killed, and the second worst financial crises in the history of the republic is a pretty comprehensive accomplishment list by anyone's pet peeve standard. I voted for that moron in 2000. I left the republican party because of that moron.

Try Lyndon Johnson, the faked gulf of tomkin incident(s),
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

and :

Deaths in Vietnam War (1965–1974) per Guenter Lewy
Allied military deaths 282,000
NVA/VC military deaths 444,000
Civilian deaths (North and South Vietnam) 627,000
Total deaths 1,353,000

I'm pretty sure "million" tops "thousands"...

bob2356 says

BlueSardine says

A personal opinion based on your definition of "worst".


Everyone's definition of "worst" will be influenced by their personal pet peeves...

Destabilizing the entire mid east, invading a country on totally false information with thousands of american soldiers killed, and the second worst financial crises in the history of the republic is a pretty comprehensive accomplishment list by anyone's pet peeve standard. I voted for that moron in 2000. I left the republican party because of that moron.

BlueSardine says

I'm pretty sure "million" tops "thousands"..

i'm pretty sure too. Now want to talk about the great economic collapse of the 60's (there was none) and how Vietnam created violence and chaos around the world (it didn't). Johnson fucked up in Vietnam, Bush hit the fuckup trifecta. Smith and Wesson beats 4 aces.

http://www.heritage.org/energy-economics/commentary/coals-colossal-comeback

Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.

Since the low point in October 2016, and following years of painful layoffs in the mining industry, the mining sector has added 35,000 jobs.

There's more good news for the coal industry. Earlier this month, Peabody Energy — America's largest coal producer — moved out of bankruptcy, and its stock is actively trading again. Its market cap had sunk by almost 90% during Barack Obama's years in office. Arch Coal is also out of bankruptcy.

You have to love heritage.org. They are the best liars on the planet. Note the phrase "mining jobs" not coal mining jobs. That's because the "mining jobs" are actually fracking jobs. Only heritage would try to claim fracking jobs are coal mining. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/7/15216938/trump-manufacturing-coal-mining-jobs

Booger says

Since the low point in October 2016, and following years of painful layoffs in the mining industry, the mining sector has added 35,000 jobs.

Got to love heritage.org. They are the best liars on the planet, bar none. Note the phrase is mining jobs, not coal mining jobs. That's because there hasn't been any coal mining jobs. The "mining jobs" are actually fracking jobs. Only heritage could seriously claim fracking is coal mining. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/7/15216938/trump-manufacturing-coal-mining-jobs

freespeechforever says

(Patrick, king of free speech forum, delete if you must)

His childish attempt at reverse pschology.

Nope.
Fail.
Dead people beats world chaos and economic collapse every time.
Put a factual number on how many deaths world chaos and economic collapse caused during the bush years.
Then you can join the party...

bob2356 says

BlueSardine says

I'm pretty sure "million" tops "thousands"..

i'm pretty sure too. Now want to talk about the great economic collapse of the 60's (there was none) and how Vietnam created violence and chaos around the world (it didn't). Johnson fucked up in Vietnam, Bush hit the fuckup trifecta. Smith and Wesson beats 4 aces.

http://thehill.com/regulation/329720-study-trump-has-eliminated-86b-in-regs

Study: Trump has eliminated $86B in regs

President Trump has saved taxpayers more than $86 billion in regulatory costs during his first three months in the White House, according to a new study from a conservative group.

The American Action Forum (AAF) points to several Obama-era regulations that Trump has either rolled back on his own or with the help of Republican lawmakers using the Congressional Review Act (CRA).

This includes the Education Department’s school accountability standards, the Environmental Protection Agency’s waters of the United States rule and the so-called “blacklisting” rule for government contractors.

These are just a few examples mentioned in the report. Since taking office, Trump and Congress have repealed 13 rules with the CRA. The CRA allows lawmakers to overturn recent rules they disapprove of with a simple majority in Congress, and send the action to the president for his signature.

“Just as there are fiscal costs for new significant rules, there can be savings from repealing old rules through comprehensive regulatory reform,” said Sam Batkins, director of regulatory policy at the AAF.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-launches-trade-probe-targeting-chinese-steel-163715335--finance.html

Trump launches trade probe targeting Chinese steel

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump launched an investigation on Thursday to determine whether Chinese and other foreign-made steel threatens U.S. national security, raising the possibility of new tariffs and triggering a rally in U.S. steel stocks.

At an Oval Office ceremony where he was surrounded by U.S. steel executives, Trump signed a memorandum ordering the Commerce Department to conduct a speedy probe into the impact of steel imports on the U.S. defense industrial base at a time when he is ordering new ships, planes and tanks to be built.

"Steel is critical to both our economy and our military. This is not an area where we can afford to become dependent on foreign countries," Trump said.

U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross cast the decision to initiate the probe as a response to Chinese exports of steel into the United States reaching the point where they now have 26 percent of the market.

Chinese steel imports are up nearly 20 percent in the early months of this year alone, he said.

Ross said Chinese steel exports have continued to rise "despite repeated Chinese claims that they were going to reduce their steel capacity when in fact they have been increasing it consistently."

"It's a very serious impact on the domestic industry," Ross said at a White House briefing with reporters.

He said if the U.S. steel industry is deemed to be suffering from too much steel imports, he will recommend retaliatory steps that could include tariffs to ensure that steel imports no longer threaten U.S. national security.

Trump signed a directive asking for a speedy probe under Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 at a White House event that included chief executives of several U.S. steel companies. The law allows the president to impose restrictions on imports for reasons of national security.

News of the move triggered a rally for steel stocks, including Steel Dynamics Inc, AK Steel, US Steel, Nucor, Cliffs Natural Resources, and Allegheny Technologies.

Administration officials said there are national security implications from imports of steel alloys that are used in products such as the armor plating of ships and require a lot of expertise to create and produce.

The move is another step in Trump's "America First" policies in which he has tried to boost U.S. manufacturers and preserve American jobs. Trump won many votes in industrial Midwestern states like Michigan and Pennsylvania with a pledge to boost manufacturing and crack down on Chinese trade practices.

U.S. Steel said China and other countries that have exported steel to the United States have cost U.S. manufacturing tens of thousands of jobs.

“For too long, China and other nations have been conducting economic warfare against the American steel industry by subsidizing their steel industries, distorting global markets, and dumping excess steel into the United States. The effects have been staggering," a U.S. Steel statement said.

The Commerce Department will have 270 days to complete the probe. Ross said he expected it to be done much sooner. Trump's directive asked that the investigation be conducted with all deliberate speed. Ross, a former steel executive, said the investigation was "self-initiated."

The American Iron and Steel Institute, which lobbies on behalf of the industry, said it supports the White House move.

"Massive global steel overcapacity has resulted in record levels of dumped and subsidized foreign steel coming into the U.S. and the loss of nearly 14,000 steel jobs," said institute President Thomas Gibson in a statement.

"The administration launching this investigation is an impactful way to help address the serious threat posed by these unfair foreign trade practices."

Further, I'd state Trump isn't even working on any of the real issues that hamper the economy right now.

How many of those simple down-home people are going to be pro Trump when the great unwinding happens? Very very few. Obama and Hillary are in the rear-view mirror now, despite however many times tRump and his talking heads want to pull them back in front.

This is Trump's shit show now. Own it Trumpets.