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Quigley says

Then invent a cold fusion process that works

So it's all or nothing. Unless someone comes up with a magic bullet that solves all problems with zero effort, we should make no effort to move in the right direction. Can we apply that philosophy to terrorism? If there is no magic bullet that stops 100% of terrorism, we should abandon all anti-terrorism efforts? Thank god you don't make policy. You'd get us all killed.

False dichotomies are among the weakest forms of debate.

Dan8267 says

So it's all or nothing.

That is the scale of the problem! Right now, dozens of formerly third world countries are industrializing and wanting to drive cars! The world population keeps rising! Where is all that extra energy going to come from? Nuclear is out as it's too risky. Solar might work, someday, but isn't space efficient. Wind is cool but requires huge investment and copious space like solar. Tidal energy is also possible but like solar and wind it needs lots of space and lots of investment. None of that stuff is available in the uprising third world, so you need a cheap abundant source of energy or you're sunk!

Politics can't solve this! It never could!

Science is the only hope. I would have thought that you'd appreciate this but perhaps you're only paying lip service to your god of choice.

Quigley says

Science is the only hope

The technology already exists to greatly mitigate climate change. I have full confidence in science. However, science without political will does not result in wise policies. I don't understand why that truth is so hard to grasp.

NuttBoxer says

And yes this is ad hominem, but so is your thread title, so mark at your peril.

Patrick's ad hominem rule only applies to direct attacks towards PatNetters, not the general population. That's why every other thread is an ad hominem attack on liberals.

P.S. Your threat only makes you look powerless.

Quigley says

The world population keeps rising!

Uncontrolled population growth fucks things up no matter what your economic policies are. It's best to leave population growth to the free market and let people have a harder time having multiple kids rather than to subsidize population growth with cheap energy at the expense of the future. Why do you hate the free market so much?

EMBRACE THE END TIMES

ARMAGEDDON IS NEAR

99% of SCIENTISTS SAY SO

Not an AH.

FortWayne says

Wasn't me who started the Global Warming hoax. That was your team Dan, and you know your team is Fubar.

So you're not going to address the thorough debunking of your previous lie then? You are conceding then that it is a lie.

As for your next lie, the scientific evidence for both climate change and global warming, one aspect of climate change, is overwhelming. There are literally thousands of independent lines of evidence from ice core samples to tree rings to fossilized remains of sea life to thermo-imaging of the oceans to statistical rise in hurricanes and tornadoes that all say the exact same thing: climate change is happening right now and at a fast pass due to fossil fuel burning.

If even one of these lines of evidence contradicted the others, it would be front page news. The fact is that there is zero contradictory evidence, and the plenitude of evidence proving man-made climate change is simply too great, too consistent, and too global to be wrong.

Furthermore, scientists from around the world have incredible incentive to prove other scientists wrong, yet they all agree on the evidence and the picture it paints. The only ones who "disagree" are fake scientists paid for by fossil fuel burners to publish propaganda. All such propaganda has been debunked, and the bribes exposed in detail. There isn't a single detraction that has withstood even the slightest scrutiny.

Quite frankly, only a complete idiot would fall for such propaganda.

Then you better make me a custom Black bad guy hat with silly propeller on top.