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I find it odd that Islamic Conservatives and Christian Conservatives both have the same reaction after a terror attack.
What reaction are "Christian Conservatives" having to the attack? I'm not one, but from what I've seen on social media, there seems to be a lot of backlash against radical Islam, sympathy for the victims, and more calls for stricter travel entry guidelines.
From the Islamic side, I see a lot of apathy to be honest (I have muslim friends on Facebook who were posting non-stop about the Bernie supporter who stabbed people in Portland, but they quickly disappeared when the identities of the London attackers became public) with a scattered amount of actual support (because of Bush wars etc).
The reactions are nothing alike.
How distant? Second cousins, third generation US citizens OK? Where will you deport them to?
Would be enough to deport ones who were naturalized. After that, community will self-police.
What reaction are "Christian Conservatives" having to the attack? I'm not one, but from what I've seen on social media, there seems to be a lot of backlash against radical Islam, sympathy for the victims, and more calls for stricter travel entry guidelines.
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You somehow missed the post that claimed "it's a good day to be a conservative."
From outside of your religious wars, looking in, this is a disgusting attitude. People (Christian Conservatives) cheering on these attacks, because they believe it's scoring them political points. It's abhorrent behavior, which would be fine in a free society, but these people are going to demand that my country engages in another war that it has zero chance of winning.
Par for the course for Christian Conservatives. Demand that we wage perpetual wars where the only possible outcome is to be Failed Losers, that's what CC's are all about.
The Terrorists:
1. Is Khuram Butt (al-head), Second Generation Inbred Pakistani who already appeared on a program about Jihadis next door.
2. Is a guy named Rachid Redouane, claimed to be Moroccan, had an Ireland ID Card and was allegedly married to an Irishwoman with Bad Taste.
3. Totally Uknown
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/suspects-behind-london-terrorist-attack/
Anybody wanna take a guess that #3 is a Rapefugee aka Migrant?
I don't see anyone cheering from Christian side. I guess you see what you want to see errc.
What reaction are "Christian Conservatives" having to the attack? I'm not one, but from what I've seen on social media, there seems to be a lot of backlash against radical Islam, sympathy for the victims, and more calls for stricter travel entry guidelines.
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You somehow missed the post that claimed "it's a good day to be a conservative."
From outside of your religious wars, looking in, this is a disgusting attitude. People (Christian Conservatives) cheering on these attacks, because they believe it's scoring them political points. It's abhorrent behavior, which would be fine in a free society, but these people are going to demand that my country engages in another war that it has zero chance of winning.
Par for the course for Christian Conservatives. Demand that we wage perpetual wars where the only possible outcome is to be Failed Losers, that's what CC's are all about.
Post #49, for the blind and willful ignorant. Followers of the Real Peaceful Religion
Leftists continue to lose in these days. Their ideology is revealed over and over to be 💩 and inconsistent drivel, their backers are proven to be craven grasping billionaires with aspirations of totalitarianism, and their "warriors" are found to be abjectly stupid criminals. It's a good day to be conservative!
First thought in the wake of tragedy: It's a good day to be conservative. Sad
You somehow missed the post that claimed "it's a good day to be a conservative."
I don't want to speak for Quigley, but he is also one person on a random internet messageboard.
Your statement said "I find it odd that Islamic Conservatives and Christian Conservatives both have the same reaction after a terror attack." Maybe you should rephrase your statement to only include Quigley?
First thought in the wake of tragedy: It's a good day to be conservative. Sad
First thought in the wake of tragedy: How can we distract from the Causes of Terror and stop Islamofauxbia?
You somehow missed the post that claimed "it's a good day to be a conservative."
I don't want to speak for Quigley, but he is also one person on a random internet messageboard.
Your statement said "I find it odd that Islamic Conservatives and Christian Conservatives both have the same reaction after a terror attack." Maybe you should rephrase your statement to only include Quigley?
Turnabout is fair play. You condemn billions of Muslims over the acts of a few Muslims, so why do you take issue with applying the same rule to Christian Cons?
They are not complex and unpredictable creatures, rather simple and predictable. That's why everyone uses them like the crusty cum rag that they are, albeit, nice people.
First thought in the wake of tragedy: It's a good day to be conservative. Sad
First thought in the wake of tragedy: How can we distract from the Causes of Terror and stop Islamofauxbia?
Maybe in your Augmented Reality, where life plays out on the Internet, but not in the real world. There's more than enough real world problems with fairly simple solutions, all within an arms reach, right here in our own backyard. But people are so driven by propaganda, and the lie that "that is too much to expect right now", or that "now is not the time for that, we must focus on things that most profit the MIC and Big Pharma first and foremost, even if its 1000's miles away in a world that I'm as likely to visit as Mars".
Go back to watching daytime Soap Operas, Nana
Turnabout is fair play. You condemn billions of Muslims over the acts of a few Muslims, so why do you take issue with applying the same rule to Christian Cons?
A few muslims? Try hundreds of millions. This data is from left leaning Pew Research.
So you're saying 100's of millions of Muslims have committed acts of terrorism?
You're a fucking liar 🤥
So you're saying 100's of millions of Muslims have committed acts of terrorism?
You're a fucking liar 🤥
They wouldn't be opposed to those acts under Sharia which is the real problem, the complete apathy, or even tacit support of terrorism from the Muslim community.
If the current trend in Terrorist attacks continues, the Candlelight vigil will be the primary cause of Global Warming.
Pew Research.
You condemn billions of Muslims over the acts of a few Muslims, so why do you take issue with applying the same rule to Christian Cons?
So you're saying 100's of millions of Muslims have committed acts of terrorism?
Turnabout is fair play. You condemn billions of Muslims over the acts of a few Muslims, so why do you take issue with applying the same rule to Christian Cons?
What's the ratio of dead Muslims from Islamofauxbia to Innocents killed by Islamic Terrorists? 1:10000?
Salafism/Wahabism is a legitimate, centuries old School of Muslim that is becoming more and more popular. If Methodism is "Real Christianity", then, by virtue of age, so is Salafism "real Islam" as the founders of the latter date back to the time of Wesley. In fact, Salafism means "Ancestors" and prides itself on being a "Return to Real Original Islam"
Please compare the number of European and American deaths by Christian Terror to that of Muslim Terror. Not even close.
I can't remember the last time Father Mayi or Praisegod Barebones shot up a Gay Bar.
If the current trend in Terrorist attacks continues, the Candlelight vigil will be the primary cause of Global Warming.
lol, ziiiiing
What happened to second/third Gen Germans, Japanese, and Italians in WW2?
What is your point?
Please compare the number of European and American deaths by Christian Terror to that of Muslim Terror. Not even close.
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This is not Europe, this is America, not my problem until we get our own house affairs in order, why would anyone waste time with another continents problems?
More people die of opiod overdose in America over any 48 hours period, than the totality of Muslim terrorists deaths in our nations history. Now, if you're a thinking person, you can connect the dots...like most bad policy in this country, it's roots are in Christian Conservatism...like the War on Drugs. And the Christian Conservative State wages this heinous war against its own people to this very day, bigly.
Islam is going to need some time to catch up with Christian Conservatives and all the harm they cause this country.
Get our own house in order, and right the wrongs forced upon a once Great Nation and its once Free People, before you go sending my son off to war for MIC profits and European protection.
before you go sending my son off to war....
Congratulations - I didn't recall you having a son, so maybe that's new!
The issue is not so much the horrible things that Muslims do elsewhere, but rather the determination in some quarters to spread Islam here, so it can cause problems for your daughters and everyone else here.
Also, if you want to avoid getting killed by an opioid overdose, don't take opioids, even if a licensed pusher prescribes them. You can't say the same to a snackbar with a bomb, because they don't take no for an answer. As weapons continue to advance, today's jihadis killing 10 or 100 per attack will get replaced by tomorrow's jihadis killing 10,000 or 100,000 per attack. Technology advances, but human nature remains constant, and Islam continues to command what it commands. Western civilization can survive some number of persons self-destructing on an individual basis, but it cannot survive a large number of jihadis choosing to take as many as possible with them; ISIL/Daesh know that, but some here don't.
The most odious thing is that the MSM is pushing terror attacks as if it is some kind of natural disaster, like a Tornado.
Western civilization can survive some number of persons self-destructing on an individual basis, but it cannot survive a large number of jihadis choosing to take as many as possible with them; ISIL/Daesh know that, but some here don't.
Word up.
I am curious, how many people on this forum think that collective punishment is immoral?
how many people on this forum think that collective punishment is immoral?
I'm curious what you mean, for example punishing people who:
1) advocate and finance a hijacking that kills 3,000 people, and pay to hide one of the organizers, even if they didn't fly themselves?
2) advocate and organize a genocide, even if some of them were not directly involved in personally murdering people?
3) say, "you must terrorize the enemies of Allah and kill the disbelievers," even if some of them did not personally go out and do that?
4) happen to be white, because you're mad about something some other white people did 200 years ago?
I've seen many ivory tower trustafarians endorse #4, but oppose #3, and that seems backwards to me.
I'm curious what you mean,
What I mean by what? You don't know what collective punishment means?
I am curious, how many people on this forum think that collective punishment is immoral?
If it's the relatives or friends of a terrorist, who knew the person to be radicalized and/or planning an attack, then their homes should be demolished and they should go to prison for "Failure to Report Terrorism". With wives and parents not getting an exception.
This stops the "Palestinian helps his family by gaining cash/payments for them through his 'martyrdom'" problem.
I am curious, how many people on this forum think that collective punishment is immoral?
No one is advocating collective punishment. We just want to stop immigration from countries that are very likely to bring in terrorists. That's not punishment, we don't owe them anything.
Collective punishment is what BLM demands be done to whites.
We just want to stop immigration from countries that are very likely to bring in terrorists. That's not punishment, we don't owe them anything.
I agree with this more or less. However, this is not all that is being advocated here.
With wives and parents not getting an exception.
Wives and parents who had nothing to do with the terrorist act?
What I mean by what? You don't know what collective punishment means?
Quit pretending other people are monkeys or too stupid to know what words mean. I listed four specific categories, the latter two exposing the backwards hypocrisy of too many ivory tower trustafarians. If you don't see how certain ivory tower policies punish people today on the basis of ethnicity, then you should look up collective punishment. If you don't see how a particular sect can share responsibility for advocating and committing genocides and other murders, then you should read more about collective action.
Wives and parents who had nothing to do with the terrorist act?
In its 2016 budget, the Palestinian Authority allocated approximately $140 million for payments to incarcerated and released prisoners and $175 million for payments to the families of “martyrs.†All together, these grisly rewards amount to roughly 7 percent of the authority's budget.
In 2014, in a cynical sleight of hand, the Palestinian Authority passed off the official responsibility of allocating these payments to the PLO. The funds, however, still originate from the Palestinian Authority's budget and are designated for the same purpose.
For its part, the United States provides approximately $400 million a year in economic assistance to the Palestinian territories, much of it in the form of grants and contracts for specific projects, such as water and sanitation; a portion is dedicated to directly supporting the Palestinian Authority's annual budget. Those direct payments are surely commingled with salaries to terrorists. But since money is fungible, any support the U.S. provides has the potential to free up funds elsewhere that can be used for this illegal purpose.
So you can see, the families of "Martyrs" get money, which is often superior to wages paid for most kinds of employment. There's a tremendous incentive to commit violence, and demolishing homes of terrorists' families is a great way to negate the benefit.
Just answer it
I did answer, and you don't add anything by calling me names. You don't even seem to realize that I answered, and that suggests cognitive dissonance on your part. You can read more about cognitive dissonance, and the hallucinations it causes, elsewhere.
Terrorists know that they can count on protection for their terror-supporting Islamic families, terror-supporting Islamic mosques, and terror-supporting Islamic communities from the mainstream press and from Western governments, and from their supporting cast of masturbatory self-congratulatory leftist virtue signallers.
Terrorists are perfectly free to kill at random, since they want to die, and the one thing that would stop them (expulsion of their families) is not even considered. Yet.
A British Muslim pointed out that expulsion for families of terrorists is the answer, right after the Manchester attack. He knows what he's talking about.
Belief in Islam (and therefore belief in sharia, the opposite of all Western values) should be a disqualification to even set foot in the civilized world to begin with.
Just FYI: It's perfectly legal to ban people for Ideology. The USG has banned Anarchists and Communists and others, and it has never been ruled unconstitutional.
A British Muslim pointed out that expulsion for families of terrorists is the answer, right after the Manchester attack. He knows what he's talking about.
Talking about families: Saddam "Dindonuffin" Hussein, for whom so many tears have been shed on this very board, paid sizeable chunks of money to the families of so-called "martyrs". Tens of millions per year in total.
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