patrick.net

Turkey backs Qatar - sending troops:

The Turkish parliament ratified an agreement on Wednesday evening to deploy additional troops to Qatar, throwing its support behind the country in the midst of its diplomatic feud with its neighbors.

Turkey will send an unspecified number of soldiers to an existing military base to train regional security forces and hold combined military exercises.

The move was in motion before the outbreak of the current tensions between Qatar and Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Yemen, Libya and the Maldives, which severed diplomatic ties with Doha, accusing it of supporting terrorism and Iran.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip ErdoÄŸan criticized the Saudi-led approach to Qatar.

“I’d like to say that we don’t find sanctions against Qatar right,” Erdoğan told a group of Turkish diplomats on Tuesday, according to Bloomberg. The most appropriate ways for the countries to resolve the issues “is through dialogue,” Erdoğan said, adding he admired “Qatar’s constructive and cool-headed approach.”

Yay! Big Sunni Split!

TwoScoopsMcGee says

Yay! Big Sunni Split!

I can hardly wait for them to start killing each other.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

Yay! Big Sunni Split!

Lol, Trump may have inadvertently been extremely effective at foreign policy just by being the loose cannon he is.

A pretty accurate description of the horrible things that happen when the US starts a civil war in a foreign country, and especially one with a different culture.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-08/while-my-qatar-gently-weeps

"The average terrorist looks exactly like everybody else in the country. US ground troops, however, stand out like a sore thumb. Brave young Billy Joe Swanson, armed with pimples, testosterone, and enough hardware to take out New Zealand, doesn't actually know why he's there, but he's there because he was recruited from a low socio economic area where his prospects were late shift at Taco Bell or the excitement of "fighting for freedom".

Young, uneducated, and not being the sharpest tool in the shed, Billy chose the latter and now, in a country and culture he knows absolutely nothing about, is faced with unknown and mostly unidentifiable attackers who will cut him down in an instant. Billy, together with his friends, feels increasingly isolated, frustrated, frightened, and angry. We're here to help, he thinks. WTF is wrong with these people?

When Billy has to push what's left of his best friends organs back into the gaping hole an IED left in his side, he quickly comes to hate the locals. They're all terrorists or terrorist sympathisers. You can tell by the language used by Billy and his fellow soldiers where they are in the world - narcos, gooks, chinks, flops, commies, ragheads.

The countries change but the results do not. Billy and his friends hate them, and this means that more innocents are killed. This turns the country increasingly against the invaders.

The locals, now presiding over rubble, grow increasingly intolerant of arrogant, heavy handed Billy and the "liberating forces". Whatever synergy and initial euphoria may have existed rapidly disappears. The gap -- a result of cultural, religious, and value systems -- widens with each viewing the other as more alien than ever.

Remember Abu Ghraib?

The lines between acceptable and outrageous blur in war. All wars, all militaries. None are immune. It's how it is.

Western media continue to speak of "precision strikes" and, when things inevitably go wrong, "isolated incidents". Locals speak of genocide and murder.
...
...
US forces "train" local forces to stand up and fight for whatever the US thinks they should be fighting for. All too often it involves killing the citizens of their own country.

Pray tell, why US-trained forces in Iraq, Libya, and Afghanistan never seem to work?

Let me put it this way. It'd be like the Russians invading the United Kingdom and having Ivan force Peter in Yorkshire to fight Luke in Devon. Only government could fail to see this for what it is: a terrible idea. This won't stop it from happening. You can't fix stupid."

justme says

Pray tell, why US-trained forces in Iraq, Libya, and Afghanistan never seem to work?

Because the Muslim cowards run like hell the moment they see the enemy. You can't train bravery.

justme says

Remember Abu Ghraib?

Yup. A big fuss over nothing.

Pakistan sending 20,000 troops to Qatar (?!)

https://www.pakistantribe.com/62243/pakistan-send-20000-soldiers-qatar

Random Guess I'm not heavily invested in: Contest over Sunni Leadership and the Role of Terror.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

Pakistan sending 20,000 troops to Qatar (?!)

I would welcome a major war between the Sunnis.
They kill each other, and we get to sell them more arms. It's what I call a win win situation.

rando says

I'll grant you this: Islam teaches hate and murder of non-Muslims, and that makes Islam a very useful weapon for destabilization of target societies through terror. And oil, especially Saudi oil, is used to fund that terror by funding wahhabi madrassas around the world. And America is partly to blame by refusing to acknowledge the close causal connection between Saudi funding of these schools and the inevitable result of such authentic Islamic teaching.

So you are saying that the radical wahabbi sect of islam with less than 5 million which is responsible for funding and sponsoring the vast majority of terrorism is islam and the 1.6 billion muslims that don't believe in terrorism are not Islam? How does that work exactly?

Strategist says

TwoScoopsMcGee says

Pakistan sending 20,000 troops to Qatar (?!)

I would welcome a major war between the Sunnis.

They kill each other, and we get to sell them more arms. It's what I call a win win situation.

You will be welcoming $500 a barrel oil also?

bob2356 says

I would welcome a major war between the Sunnis.


They kill each other, and we get to sell them more arms. It's what I call a win win situation.

You will be welcoming $500 a barrel oil also?

$500 a barrel oil would instantly welcome alternative fuels, and in turn a quick end to the reliance in oil.

bob2356 says

rando says

I'll grant you this: Islam teaches hate and murder of non-Muslims, and that makes Islam a very useful weapon for destabilization of target societies through terror. And oil, especially Saudi oil, is used to fund that terror by funding wahhabi madrassas around the world. And America is partly to blame by refusing to acknowledge the close causal connection between Saudi funding of these schools and the inevitable result of such authentic Islamic teaching.

So you are saying that the radical wahabbi sect of islam with less than 5 million which is responsible for funding and sponsoring the vast majority of terrorism is islam and the 1.6 billion muslims that don't believe in terrorism are not Islam? How does that work exactly?

He is saying "Islam teaches hate and murder of non-Muslims" "And oil, especially Saudi oil, is used to fund that terror"
You know exactly what he said, but if you need to rely on BS to make a point, it tells me you have no real argument.