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You can tell Trump's son is dumb as a post, since damaging information about the Clintons is as rare as dirt and as easy to find. No Russians required.

Ceffer says

You can tell Trump's son is dumb as a post, since damaging information about the Clintons is as rare as dirt and as easy to find. No Russians required.

There is no dirt on Hillary. I kind of liked her, and would have supported her if she became President. But she lost, so lets concentrate on Trump.

Ceffer says

You can tell Trump's son is dumb as a post, since damaging information about the Clintons is as rare as dirt and as easy to find. No Russians required.

Anyone got a rough date and timeline for when the email leaks occurred? :)

I'm not saying Trump administration leaked em, but my god, what a bunch of neophytes in a shark tank. This is what you get America for brining in complete amateurs to one of the most serious and highbrow games there is: statesmanship and diplomacy.

Anyone remember what Gore did with the information he was given on Bush? Anyone? That's right! He went right to the FBI. Smart move! Obvious trap and ethically fucked up.

If America is comfortable with Russia helping out here, I can think of a whole host of countries that might want to help the DNC. Is that where we are at? This is what we want from our Democracy?

Strategist says

I see nothing wrong with that. Politicians are always eager to dig up dirt on their opponents.

Good parrot back of the party line. Big problem! This isn't opposition research. This is a foreign power asking for quid pro quo: I give you dirt, we talk "adoptions".

Any bets on how long Mueller stays in his current position?
(Come on Trump! Do it!)

Rew says

Strategist says

I see nothing wrong with that. Politicians are always eager to dig up dirt on their opponents.

Good parrot back of the party line. Big problem! This isn't opposition research. This is a foreign power asking for quid pro quo: I give you dirt, we talk "adoptions".

Where is the evidence?

Strategist says

Where is the evidence?

Shortly after Obama clinches the Democratic nomination in the primaries of 08 the following occurs: David Axelrod, Robert Gibbs, and Malia (giggle) ... meet with a Russia "lawyer", because Malia received an email which offered dirt on McCaine. The Russian lawyer is a known advocate to try and lessen sanctions against Russia and has strong ties to former Russian intelligence agencies.

Donald Trump Jr.'s best defense here is that he is a neophyte, not that nothing is wrong. This is clearly a quid pro quo setup.

Edit: Obama maintains that he "knew nothing of the meeting".

Say it with me Trump Jr. : "The pretty Russian lady tricked me. She is mean. I didn't know any better."
Say it with me Jared: "OHHHhhhh! She was a Russian? I didn't know thaaaat!"
Say it with me Manafort: "OOoopsy dooppsy. I'm pretty screwed aren't I?"

Rew says

Strategist says

Where is the evidence?

Shortly after Obama clinches the Democratic nomination in the primaries of 08 the following occurs: David Axelrod, Robert Gibbs, and Malia (giggle) ... meet with a Russia "lawyer", because Malia received an email which offered dirt on McCaine. The Russian lawyer is a known advocate to try and lessen sanctions against Russia and has strong ties to former Russian intelligence agencies.

Donald Trump Jr.'s best defense here is that he is a neophyte, not that nothing is wrong. This is clearly a quid pro quo setup.

Edit: Obama maintains that he "knew nothing of the meeting".

In other words your original post is nothing but garbage.

Strategist says

In other words your original post is nothing but garbage.

You think 5, that's five, one now a registered foreign agent, one a known gun for hire for some of the worst political regimes in the world, have all lied MULTIPLE TIMES to cover their contacts with Russians is a nothing burger? You think an email offering dirt, from what amounts to essentially a KGB operative trying to sway American policy on sanctions (that's Natalia's main focus!) is a nothing burger?

My god man. I'm sorry. You care nothing for American values at all.

Country over party. This isn't a game of winning or losing now. This goes beyond that. The time will come to face this, or we are so seriously fucked as a country. It is clear the biggest issue facing the nation may actually be propaganda. Unreal. (This is where you say, Fake News is the real propaganda. And I laugh.)

Check the optics on this ...

"Trump Jr. has hired New York attorney Alan Futerfas to represent himself in matters regarding the Russia investigations, Reuters reported on Monday. The Daily Caller reported that Futerfas has previously represented Nikita Kuzmin, a Russian national who was found guilty of creating a malware virus that infected over 40,000 U.S. computers, including ones at NASA." Link

ROFLMAO!

Rew says

Strategist says

In other words your original post is nothing but garbage.

You think 5, that's five, one now a registered foreign agent, one a known gun for hire for some of the worst political regimes in the world, have all lied MULTIPLE TIMES to cover their contacts with Russians is a nothing burger? You think an email offering dirt, from what amounts to essentially a KGB operative trying to sway American policy on sanctions (that's Natalia's main focus!) is a nothing burger?

My god man. I'm sorry. You care nothing for American values at all.

LOL. Means nothing. Trump is the President, not his son. So what if he met with a Russian to dig up dirt.

Strategist says

LOL. Means nothing. Trump is the President, not his son. So what if he met with a Russian to dig up dirt.

Cool cool. So, just so we are clear, anyone in the next administration can do anything ... provided it isn't the President?

Ethics and treason are clearly national strong suits at this point. (eye roll)

Rew says

Strategist says

LOL. Means nothing. Trump is the President, not his son. So what if he met with a Russian to dig up dirt.

Cool cool. So, just so we are clear, anyone in the next administration can do anything ... provided it isn't the President?

Rew says

Ethics and treason are clearly national strong suits at this point. (eye roll)

We live in a free country. People can do anything they want except break the law. Since when is digging up dirt on a politician illegal?

Strategist says

We live in a free country. People can do anything they want except break the law. Since when is digging up dirt on a politician illegal?

Pretty much since we formed the country as a representative Democracy, provided the dirt comes from a foreign nation. It's kind of the point of a government for the people.

But ya know ... details.

Rew says

Strategist says

We live in a free country. People can do anything they want except break the law. Since when is digging up dirt on a politician illegal?

Pretty much since we formed the country as a representative Democracy, provided the dirt comes from a foreign nation. It's kind of the point of a government for the people.

But ya know ... details.

LOL. OK, go ahead and impeach President Trump based on your assertions.

Trump Jr. may very well have broken the law:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341223-ex-bush-ethics-lawyer-on-trump-jr-meeting-with-russian-lawyer-this

Crimes here are political by nature, and it is early to say it, but 'everyone' is thinking about: treason. Everyone. Just like how everyone love that marine hat thing with Trump. Good stuff.

Strategist says

LOL. OK, go ahead and impeach President Trump based on your assertions.

Think of this like a Russian nesting doll. We keep opening the layers until we get to the round little man himself inside.

Minimally, his administration crumbles.

Even playing multi-dimensional chess, the King will be the last piece to go.

Check.

Rew says

Trump Jr. may very well have broken the law:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341223-ex-bush-ethics-lawyer-on-trump-jr-meeting-with-russian-lawyer-this

Crimes here are political by nature, and it is early to say it, but 'everyone' is thinking about: treason. Everyone. Just like how everyone love that marine hat thing with Trump. Good stuff.

LOL. He may have broken the law by speeding too. Good luck with you bullshit.

Strategist says

LOL. He may have broken the law by speeding too. Good luck with you bullshit.

Hmmm. Me thinks you don't think Trump Jr. needs to lawyer up. So odd? Especially since he just did that ... one who specializes in dealing with defending foreign agents committing cyber crimes! (lol)

Rew says

Strategist says

LOL. He may have broken the law by speeding too. Good luck with you bullshit.

Hmmm. Me thinks you don't think Trump Jr. needs to lawyer up. So odd? Especially since he just did that ... one who specializes in dealing with defending foreign agents committing cyber crimes! (lol)

No, I don't think Jr needs a lawyer, just like Hillary may not need a lawyer for taking millions from the Saudis.
Anyway i need to retire for the day. It's always fun arguing with someone who can take and gave shit equally, unlike the sore loser Dan.
Sweet dreams.

Strategist says

Sweet dreams.

You too. (high five)

Wonder what Jr will dream of tonight?

(shiver)

;)

I just wanna know exactly what Jr did wrong (by meeting with and getting basically no info from this Russian lawyer). He got hustled. Being a sucker isn't criminal, or most of America would be locked up. Looking for dirt on a political opponent isn't illegal either, or every politician would need to be locked up as well!

So? Waiting...

Rew says

The American people are highly concerned.

Only the 18 - 22% who are brainwashed by CNN. As seen during the Bush years, each side has its core partisan hacks who will never see reality over team affiliation.

Congrats on being part of that 18%.

"I just wanna know exactly what Jr did wrong (by meeting with and getting basically no info from this Russian lawyer). He got hustled. Being a sucker isn't criminal, or most of America would be locked up. Looking for dirt on a political opponent isn't illegal either, or every politician would need to be locked up as well!"

Do we know for sure he didn't get any info? His story has changed 3 times so far. Who's to say that tomorrow we won't find out he DID get info?

This is a big nothing now.
If this idiot is a Hoaxer, then who's to say the Trump's didn't play along to get reverse intel? Follow the doodoo trail to find the stinking turd at the end.

The source makes any retort or excuse by Trump Jr. plausible. Even the grandest lie, this guy is has to wait for Cockroaches to get off a sinking ship first.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/11/rob-goldstone-trump-jr-meeting-russian-lawyer

Using this logic everyone is guilty of everything, because, y'know, who's to say that tomorrow we won't find out the evidence???

joeyjojojunior says

Do we know for sure he didn't get any info? His story has changed 3 times so far. Who's to say that tomorrow we won't find out he DID get info?

Holy crap, Donald meet with a Russian.

Good thing podesta, Clinton, etc don't meet with Russians.

It's USC 6913, taking to Russians. Caries a 6 month in jail or up to $1000 fine.

Lol

"Using this logic everyone is guilty of everything, because, y'know, who's to say that tomorrow we won't find out the evidence???"

Not at all. Trump Jr. has lied twice already just about this meeting. He only changes his story when evidence comes out proving it. So, it's entirely reasonable to wonder if more evidence will come out and Trump Jr. will, once again, change his story when it does.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Government is not supposed to be sold or brokered,

Someone should have told Hillary that.
Seriously.
Her term as SoS netted her family and their corrupt "charity" over 100 million dollars.

But you're right, the "appearance" of possible future corruption trumps massive organized systemic corruption that's already happened!

Meeting with a Russian = good, provided you have high ethics, allegiance to country, and are doing so in the country's best interest.

When you lie repeatedly on your SF-86, fire FBI directors, and go into fitful tweet storms: it looks like there is something there.

You have to admit, even if there is nothing behind this but neophyte incompetence, this is not a nothingburger. The administration is heavily lawyerd up and completely distracted.

The national message from the WH the past week is what? Drowned out is what.

Go deep state! Go Mueller!

Look how not normal it is. Apoc just said something completely serious.

If that doesn't make you pay attention, I don't know what else can.

Tenpoundbass says

Good luck getting his voter base to think .

Amen

To be honest I would rather America falls to Russia than Liberal scumbags. We can't, the WORLD CAN'T never afford another Liberal Reich to inflict such hostility and malice upon the world again.
We're fighting a Cold war indeed we are, the Liberals are the enemy, Russia it our Ally.

If Liberals are going to use the Red Herring Russia to over throw Trump and inflict a hostile Coup against American democracy.

They will have two enemies. About 15 million Trump voters, and Russia.

So while you Idiots are harping on about Russia and Trump we're all saying "... And?"

Well, at least it wasn't Ukraine. Man, did they REALLY try to interfere with our elections.

It's a contest between ex-Socialists or American destroying intent on being Socialist actors.
I'll go with the ex-Socialists.

There's nothing American about Modern Liberalism let's get that straight. Russia isn't trying to destroy the world like Liberal's world wide biggest Patron of destruction Soros is.
I stand in good conscious with my statement above. And know I'm not alone in that either. That's pretty much where most people stand on it.

Careful with that Hoax Ugene.

Political collusion is a direct assault upon a Democratic process, and steals from the electorate it's fair representation. The issue I have with the current preoccupation of the Russian/Trump collusion narrative is, it is just that....a narrative devoid of any clear direct evidence. As opposed to, Chair of the DNC and CNN political analyst Donna Brazile secretly providing to the Clinton campaign, advance notice of debate questions in order to give unfair advantage. This is direct inculpatory evidence and the precise definition of political collusion. Here we have a direct act of political collusion, which is a direct assault upon our Democratic process in an attempt to steal away the electorates representation....and no one seems to care? I have no problems investigating any Trump/Russia collusion, yet collusion is collusion...why is there no discussion much less investigation of Donna Brazile? It is this type of biased reporting process, which creates mistrust amongst conservatives.

Tenpoundbass says

To be honest I would rather America falls to Russia than Liberal scumbags.

Translation: "I'd rather win, at all costs, even if I lose my country and way of life."

New fun information today is the statement, "I love it", with regards to fully knowing that the Russian state is offering information to Jr. That is conspiracy to interfere in an election, and he loves it!

Go Deep State! Get 'em!