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PCGyver says

CBOEtrader says

I am saying ISIS is a legit THEORY. Perhaps even the best theory we have regarding an ambiguous situation.

Yet you present no evidence.

You didnt read the thread. ISIS claimed him. Their claims have a track record of accuracy.

For ex: http://www.denverpost.com/2016/07/27/isis-clamied-attacks-worth-reading-closely/ "Many have lampooned the Islamic State as an organization keen to claim each and every terrorist attack around the world, but analysts say it has a vested interest in being accurate. “*They’re careful about it*. They couch their terms a bit,” said Berger. “If they can credibly insert themselves into the narrative around an attack, they win, essentially.” "

Or : "http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-terror-attack-claim-real-true-legitimate-fake-false-how-to-know-a7701046.html " "A simple tabulation of past claims of responsibility for attacks in the West shows that Isis has been surprisingly disciplined in only claiming attacks that the terror group has either directed, enabled or else inspired," Rukmini Callimachi, a New York Times correspondent focusing on Isis and al-Qaeda, told The Independent.

She added: "A large share of attacks now are inspired by the terror group. They are carried out by attackers who imbibed the ideology online, as opposed to carried out by the terror group's own personnel.

"What people seem to not understand is that an inspired attack is an attack by the terror group." "

So when a group that has a "highly disciplined" track record claims this man as a caliphate, that equals legit evidence to support the theory.

Lmao what a fucking moron.

That’s the entirety of your evidence? Because Isis told you? Great American, huh

errc says

Lmao what a fucking moron.

Lol, keep sticking your head in the sand. You cling to your identity politics rather than look at real world evidence. YOU are behaving like a useful idiot. Good luck w that

CBOEtrader says

errc says

Lmao what a fucking moron.

Lol, keep sticking your head in the sand. You cling to your identity politics rather than look at real world evidence. YOU are behaving like a useful idiot. Good luck w that

How do you figure?

I’m open to any possible scenario. Just follow the evidence

errc says

How do you figure?

Lets see... a group that has been "surprisingly disciplined in only claiming attacks that the terror group has either directed, enabled or else inspired" claims this attack.

errc: "I KNOW THEY ARE LYING CAUSE REASONS AND ANYONE WHO DOESNT AGREE W ME IS IGNORANT."

Compare this to every expert: "An ISIS claim is worthy of deeper investigation given their track record."

CBOE: "I agree with the experts, ISIS involvement is a legit theory that should be considered."

errc: "UNLESS YOU IGNORE REALITY YOU ARE AN IDIOT."

CBOE: "LOLZ."

Yeah that's called being a useful idiot.

Let’s see

ISIS claims responsibility

The FBI said that Paddock and the Las Vegas shooting has no connection to ISIS

I side with America

You side with ISIS

Who’s the useful idiot?

errc says

The FBI said that Paddock and the Las Vegas shooting has no connection to ISIS

They said no KNOWN connection.

You are hearing what you want to hear rather than the truth. This is confirmation bias of your identity politics.

errc says

Who’s the useful idiot?

The answer to that is clear.

Right. No known connection. Do you disagree with the FBI? Do you know something that the FBI does not?

You are hearing what you want to hear rather than the truth. This is confirmation bias of your identity politics.

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Seems to be a much more accurate description of yourself. Seems you are projecting. And ignorant. I have no “identity politics “. Can you say the same?

I thought we’re supposed to wait for evidence, rather than to jump to conclusions, and form opinions based on nothing more than your feels.

Do you consider ISIS trustworthy?

errc says

The FBI said that Paddock and the Las Vegas shooting has no connection to ISIS

I side with America

Is that the same FBI that has been searching for Russian collusion for 15 months along with 16 other intelligence agencies, but still doesn't have any evidence? But we should believe the FBI statement that they came out with in less that 24 hours on the shooter, even though all other news reports claim this guy was a ghost, with virtually no history?

That FBI??

me123 says

errc says

Right. No known connection. Do you disagree with the FBI? Do you know something that the FBI does not?

The guy who rails nonstop about the justice dept and the war on drugs is now a FBI flag waver.

You can't make this shit up.

And all you Trumpcucks are carrying water for ISIS. Yuck

CBOE Since when is an ISIS inspired terrorist = to a well known leftist activist?

Do you think any ISIS inspired terrorist would kill only American republicans and let go or spare American democrats? Has there ever, once, in the history of radical Islam been an instance where the Republicans were killed and the Democrats let go?

I know you will see this question, so please try to answer.

You are still missing the point.

The FBI was making a statement of ignorance "we don't know nuttin" a few hours after the event. Of course they didn't know anything at the time.

The FBI's statement at 8 am Monday morning, before they even had time to drink their coffee, does not in any way contradict ISIS's claim.

CBOEtrader says

The FBI's statement at 8 am Monday morning, before they even had time to drink their coffee, does not in any way contradict ISIS's claim.

As of today, the FBI is still asking the public for any information for the motive of the shooter, but they know with 100% accuracy, it's not ISIS related less than 24 hours after the shooting.

CBOE said...The FBI was making a statement of "we don't know nutting"

Which further calls into question your statement he is
1. Well known
2. Leftist Activist
3. MSM won't report it.

Please explain how you came to the conclusion he was WELL KNOWN when the FBI is still asking for leads.

me123 says

Dan8267 says

Does anyone here actually believe that CBOEtrader is right that the Las Vegas shooter was an ISIS operative? Please come forth now so we have a list of fools on the record.

Do you have any verifiable proof that he 100% wasn't. Please post it.

I don't have any verifiable proof that you 100% don't rape dead goats.

CBOEtrader says

Can't tell if you are lying or stupid.

You are lying and stupid.

CBOEtrader says

Mn't tell if you are lying or stups guy was MOST LIKELY anti-trump.

A meaningless statement. The probability that he was anti-Trump is either 100% or 0% and nothing in between. He either was or was not. Events either happen or do not. The only meaningful property is that of repeatable events occurring at known ratios. A specific person being anti-Trump is not a repeatable event.

You are asserting bullshit simply because you need him to be a part of the opposing team instead of your team. Well, then if he turns out to be a part of your team, then by your own analysis, your team is evil.


CBOEtrader says

I am saying ISIS is a legit THEORY.

No, that's not what you said. You said it was a certainty that he was ISIS and cited several pieces of propaganda to support your ideology despite all investigators stating that such rumors are baseless and harmful to spread.

CBOEtrader says

So, to be clear, dans position is "zero % chance" of radicalization.

I never stated anything remotely like that. ISIS is evil and has brainwashed a lot of people. But there is absolutely no reason to believe this person is one of them and every reason to believe that isn't so. He does not remotely fit the profile. No investigator thinks he's connected to ISIS.

CBOEtrader says

That is pure ignorance based on identity politics.

And what exactly do you with your small brain think my identity politics are?

Don't go accusing others of identity politics to cover up your despicable identity politics.

Government in CA is left wing terrorism, a cruel abuse of human beings.

anonymous says

CBOE said...The FBI was making a statement of "we don't know nutting"

Which further calls into question your statement he is
1. Well known
2. Leftist Activist
3. MSM won't report it.

Please explain how you came to the conclusion he was WELL KNOWN when the FBI is still asking for leads.

For the nth time, BECAUSE ISIS TOLD HIM SO

YES, ISIS LOVES HIM
YES, ISIS LOVES HIM
YES, ISIS LOVES HIM!!!
THE BIBLE TELLS HIM SO

The delicious irony in this case is paddock appears not to have any political ideology whatsoever. He appears to not have voted in 2016 2012 or 2008. There are conflicting reports about whether he registered in 2004 as democrat or republican - but no confirmation he voted even then.

In the word of his brother he had "No strong religious or political positions he was "just a guy". Meaning the notion the guy was a political activist or suffering from TDS is absurd.

He is like 60-80 percent of this country who is not a slave to political infotainment and likely went to his grave never having ever heard of "identity politics". You all hope to someday be as blissfully free of political nonsense as he was.

You all hope to someday be as blissfully free of political nonsense as he was.

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Amen.

Dan8267 says

You said it was a certainty that he was ISIS

Proof that Dan is a liar

Dan8267 says

If at this point you still think it's ISIS behind the shooting, you're a fucking idiot.

LOL, except every expert disagrees with you.

Dan8267 says

The probability that he was anti-Trump is either 100% or 0% and nothing in between.

Proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that Dan doesn't understand statistics

Dan8267 says

Don't go accusing others of identity politics to cover up your despicable identity politics.

I'm looking at the only facts available, whereas you are denying any possibility of ISIS radicalization. Admit there is a legit chance he was radicalized, ya know, because there is MORE than a zero % chance that ISIS's claim is accurate.

CBOEtrader says

Dan8267 says

The probability that he was anti-Trump is either 100% or 0% and nothing in between.

Proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that Dan doesn't understand statistics

But he does understand sex with farm animals.

Dan8267 says

Dan8267 says

You said it was a certainty that he was ISIS

Dan8267 says

CBOEtrader says

Listen to the experts. Leftist terror activist, possibly even an ISIS

Dan proving he both doesn't understand English and thinks in black/white terms. According to psychologists, this is a mental flaw that most people outgrow by the age of 4

Meanwhile, it just came out that the shooter initiated his attack after the security guard checked a nearby room.

So Campos didn't make the Shooter panic by knocking on his door - the previous theory - it made him initiate it sooner. Which is why Paddock didn't fully use all his equipment in haste.

CBOEtrader says

Dan8267 says

Dan8267 says

You said it was a certainty that he was ISIS

Dan8267 says

CBOEtrader says

Listen to the experts. Leftist terror activist, possibly even an ISIS

Dan proving he both doesn't understand English and thinks in black/white terms. According to psychologists, this is a mental flaw that most people outgrow by the age of 4

Honey, you made the claim "ISIS is responsible for the Las Vegas shooting" out to be the only plausible explanation. Every person on the planet knows that claiming certainty about an empirical statement does not mean the same thing as it being mathematically impossible for the empirical statement to be false. It means that it is unreasonable to consider the statement to be false.

For example, we are all certain that we don't live in a VR simulator ran by a computer in a giant space hamster's ass. Can we prove that we're not all simulations inside an alien computer inside the ass of a giant space hamster? Of course not. Such a possibility would be logically and empirically consistent. Nonetheless, we say that we are certain we don't live in a hamster's ass. You were making such a claim. Now that it's becoming obvious that the shooter had nothing to do with ISIS or the left, you are trying to back out of that claim, but you are not doing so honestly.

You tried to make the entire left look guilty by association, but honey, this guy stinks of the right wing. He's a rich, old white man with a gambling problem and an arsenal of guns. The only way he could get more right-wing is if he fucked his sister, his wife left him, he lost his dog, and his pickup truck broke down and he wrote a country song about it.

You are also proof that the conservative right is not one bit different from the conservative left in any way that matters. Both are tribal, dishonest, hateful, and stupid. As more information comes out about the shooter, it will become more apparent just how much your tribe sucks and what fucking hypocrites all you alt+right propagandists are. You spread maliciousness rumors in the hopes that even after the rumors are discredited, the negative feelings you generated about the competing tribes will linger. There is not an honest bone in your body, and you do the country a great disservice by spreading lies to further your identity politics.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

www.youtube.com/embed/gDKdHuyQpHY?showinfo=false

Dan8267 says

You are also proof that the conservative right is not one bit different from the conservative left

I'm a liberal. I've never voted for an R or D, only libertarians

Dan8267 says

Honey, you made the claim "ISIS is responsible for the Las Vegas shooting" out to be the only plausible explanation.

Bzzzt. Wrong. I stated it is a legit theory w a chance greater than zero. It is most likely far greater than zero given ISIS history of relative accuracy of their claims.

Dan8267 says

Honey,

Why are you communicating like an IHOP waitress? Dan, bro, you have issues.

CBOEtrader says

I'm a liberal. I've never voted for an R or D, only libertarians

You are clearly not a liberal, and although libertarians pay lip service to liberty, in practice few libertarians are actually liberals. Case example, the Koch brothers.

CBOEtrader says

Bzzzt. Wrong. I stated it is a legit theory w a chance greater than zero. It is most likely far greater than zero given ISIS history of relative accuracy of their claims.

First of all, it's not a theory. It's a conjecture. Second, what the fuck is the difference between a "legit" conjecture and an "illegitimate" conjecture? All conjectures turn out to be either correct or incorrect. One could easily conjecture that the shooter was a closeted alt+right supporter who was making a statement that real men use guns. One could also conjecture that the shooter wanted to prevent the next Hitler from rising to power, so he killed lots of people at a casino because he believed the parents of that future Hitler was there and he was going to retroactively abort the conceived child terminator style. There is no more reason to buy your conjecture than either of these two or an infinite number of other conjectures.

What you did was claim to have compelling evidence when you actually had no evidence, compelling or otherwise. You submitted rumor and innuendo as evidence, and they are not. Once more, you have only furthered spreading baseless rumors and needless divisiveness. You actions are no different than any of the brainwashed alt+right persons who blamed the shooting on innocent people and on ISIS just to make a political gain.

ISIS is plenty evil. You don't have to resort to distorting the facts to make the case that ISIS should be ended even using considerable lethal violence.

CBOEtrader says

Dan8267 says

Honey,

Why are you communicating like an IHOP waitress? Dan, bro, you have issues.

I'm being condescending to you. If you don't like that, stop giving me reasons to be condescending.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

It is rather astounding that someone could live to mid 60's and this (not these altered ones, the original) is the best photo the media could find for what seemed like a couple days. I get not everyone has facebook, etc, but seriously? I'm not going down conspiracy theory rabbit holes, but it does seem weird.

I think he looks quite stunning in the third photograph.

WookieMan says

It is rather astounding that someone could live to mid 60's and this (not these altered ones, the original) is the best photo the media could find for what seemed like a couple days. I get not everyone has facebook, etc, but seriously? I'm not going down conspiracy theory rabbit holes, but it does seem weird.

"Hardcore Gambler" is usually a cover for a con man or other crook. That way you don't have to explain where you get the money from, especially large amounts of cash.

This guy had his dad live in his head, he had to do better than his dad in criminality (was richer) and finally in ruined lives (sniper nest).

Fox is probably right on that one, even though they are all just sticking to team politics

TwoScoopsMcGee says

Dan8267 says

First of all, it's not a theory. It's a conjecture. Second, what the fuck is the difference between a "legit" conjecture and an "illegitimate" conjecture?

Yet again, the experts disagree w you. So, w zero research, you claim to know more than people who study extremism. You are choosing your own illusion.

Enjoy your ignorance.Dan8267 says

I'm being condescending to you. If you don't like that, stop giving me reasons to be condescending.

Shouldn't you be trolling community colleges for 19 year old Taylor swift look a likes in your $8k sports car?

Piggy, are you still jealous of my car? Just because your poor and homeless doesn't mean the rest of us can't enjoy life.