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CBOEtrader says

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/353518-terror-experts-puzzled-by-isis-claim-in-las-vegas-attack
"Experts who track the group [ISIS] closely say that when it comes to attacks in the West, if ISIS is claiming responsibility, there typically was some kind of connection between the perpetrator and the group."

Next paragraph.
"The group does often claim responsibility for attacks that may have been merely inspired by the group’s ideology — not directed or funded by ISIS leadership. In either case, the group will credit “a soldier of the Caliphate.”"

http://nypost.com/2017/10/06/vegas-shooter-showed-off-his-gun-room-to-houseguest/
Le Fevre said Paddock became very defensive when asked about the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms.

“I raised that question with Steve and it’s something that he came back at me with an incredible degree of vigor,” he said.

“He was very strict and very firm on the fact that it’s a right. It’s the freedom of every American to participate, to own a gun and use it … when need be. I was shocked. There was no compassion in regard to my question.”

CBOEtrader says

Yet again I win the debate.

It's amazing how the biggest idiots always think they are the greatest geniuses. But hey, double down yet again on the nonsense that the shooter was an ISIS operative. After all you heard it on Fox News and The Hill. Just more evidence that the conservative right is batshit crazy and dumb as shit.

CBOEtrader says

A theory that is 50% accurate would still be the most likely theory we have.

Donald Trump is a man who works for ISIS. That's 50% accurate. After all, Trump is a man and that's half the statement.

CBOEtrader says

FortWayne says

He's either Muslim or leftist. Those are the crazy once constantly hating America for it's freedoms.

careful. The TDS sufferers will point out your lack of verbal qualifiers, take this as a definitive statement and pedantically accuse you of being a liar.

You're not a liar for being a dumb ass who believed stupid shit. You're a liar for telling lies. That's how being a liar works.

Pee Wee Herman called. He wants his insults back, piggy. The petting farm also called. They want their goats back.

piggy needs to be banned from the site again and all his alts deleted.

Dan8267 says

It's amazing how the biggest idiots always think they are the greatest geniuses.

Its the cutest when Dan talks about himself

me123 says

There you go folks, when Dan has nothing but uncivil insults, you know you've won.

Checkmate (again)

Fact.

jazz_music says

Dan8267 says

the biggest idiots always think they are the greatest geniuses

every stupid person thinks they are the only ones who have a brain.

Lol, yet again, Dan is projecting. This is fun to watch

jazz_music says

CBOEtrader says

Lol, yet again, Dan is projecting. This is fun to watch

It is bitter.

Yes it is bitter, but that's Dan's SOP when he looses an argument.

Does anyone here actually believe that CBOEtrader is right that the Las Vegas shooter was an ISIS operative? Please come forth now so we have a list of fools on the record.

CBOEtrader was demonstrated just how much of an ideologue idiot he is and how little actual evidence affects his perception of reality.

The fact that piggy is on his side tells you everything you need to know about team crazy.

me123 says

Dan8267 says

Does anyone here actually believe that CBOEtrader is right that the Las Vegas shooter was an ISIS operative? Please come forth now so we have a list of fools on the record.

Do you have any verifiable proof that he 100% wasn't. Please post it.

You’re asking him to prove a negative. You’re very stupid.

Why not share the evidence that he was? I know why you won’t, because you don’t have any

Dan8267 says

Does anyone here actually believe that CBOEtrader is right that the Las Vegas shooter was an ISIS operative?

Can't tell if you are lying or stupid. My position AGAIN is that this guy was MOST LIKELY anti-trump. Vengeful leftist and possible ISIS involvement are the best current theories we have.

Low intellect people fail to understand the concept of odds. Your simple mind is all black/white. I am not saying HE IS Isis. That's your idiotic straw man.

I am saying ISIS is a legit THEORY. Perhaps even the best theory we have regarding an ambiguous situation.

Keep lying or being retarded though.

So, to be clear, dans position is "zero % chance" of radicalization. That is pure ignorance based on identity politics.

PCGyver says

Yet you present no evidence.

ISIS say's it's true is all the evidence anyone needs. Seriously.

PCGyver says

CBOEtrader says

I am saying ISIS is a legit THEORY. Perhaps even the best theory we have regarding an ambiguous situation.

Yet you present no evidence.

You didnt read the thread. ISIS claimed him. Their claims have a track record of accuracy.

For ex: http://www.denverpost.com/2016/07/27/isis-clamied-attacks-worth-reading-closely/ "Many have lampooned the Islamic State as an organization keen to claim each and every terrorist attack around the world, but analysts say it has a vested interest in being accurate. “*They’re careful about it*. They couch their terms a bit,” said Berger. “If they can credibly insert themselves into the narrative around an attack, they win, essentially.” "

Or : "http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-terror-attack-claim-real-true-legitimate-fake-false-how-to-know-a7701046.html " "A simple tabulation of past claims of responsibility for attacks in the West shows that Isis has been surprisingly disciplined in only claiming attacks that the terror group has either directed, enabled or else inspired," Rukmini Callimachi, a New York Times correspondent focusing on Isis and al-Qaeda, told The Independent.

She added: "A large share of attacks now are inspired by the terror group. They are carried out by attackers who imbibed the ideology online, as opposed to carried out by the terror group's own personnel.

"What people seem to not understand is that an inspired attack is an attack by the terror group." "

So when a group that has a "highly disciplined" track record claims this man as a caliphate, that equals legit evidence to support the theory.

Lmao what a fucking moron.

That’s the entirety of your evidence? Because Isis told you? Great American, huh

errc says

Lmao what a fucking moron.

Lol, keep sticking your head in the sand. You cling to your identity politics rather than look at real world evidence. YOU are behaving like a useful idiot. Good luck w that

CBOEtrader says

errc says

Lmao what a fucking moron.

Lol, keep sticking your head in the sand. You cling to your identity politics rather than look at real world evidence. YOU are behaving like a useful idiot. Good luck w that

How do you figure?

I’m open to any possible scenario. Just follow the evidence

errc says

How do you figure?

Lets see... a group that has been "surprisingly disciplined in only claiming attacks that the terror group has either directed, enabled or else inspired" claims this attack.

errc: "I KNOW THEY ARE LYING CAUSE REASONS AND ANYONE WHO DOESNT AGREE W ME IS IGNORANT."

Compare this to every expert: "An ISIS claim is worthy of deeper investigation given their track record."

CBOE: "I agree with the experts, ISIS involvement is a legit theory that should be considered."

errc: "UNLESS YOU IGNORE REALITY YOU ARE AN IDIOT."

CBOE: "LOLZ."

Yeah that's called being a useful idiot.

Let’s see

ISIS claims responsibility

The FBI said that Paddock and the Las Vegas shooting has no connection to ISIS

I side with America

You side with ISIS

Who’s the useful idiot?

errc says

The FBI said that Paddock and the Las Vegas shooting has no connection to ISIS

They said no KNOWN connection.

You are hearing what you want to hear rather than the truth. This is confirmation bias of your identity politics.

errc says

Who’s the useful idiot?

The answer to that is clear.

Right. No known connection. Do you disagree with the FBI? Do you know something that the FBI does not?

You are hearing what you want to hear rather than the truth. This is confirmation bias of your identity politics.

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Seems to be a much more accurate description of yourself. Seems you are projecting. And ignorant. I have no “identity politics “. Can you say the same?

I thought we’re supposed to wait for evidence, rather than to jump to conclusions, and form opinions based on nothing more than your feels.

Do you consider ISIS trustworthy?

errc says

The FBI said that Paddock and the Las Vegas shooting has no connection to ISIS

I side with America

Is that the same FBI that has been searching for Russian collusion for 15 months along with 16 other intelligence agencies, but still doesn't have any evidence? But we should believe the FBI statement that they came out with in less that 24 hours on the shooter, even though all other news reports claim this guy was a ghost, with virtually no history?

That FBI??

me123 says

errc says

Right. No known connection. Do you disagree with the FBI? Do you know something that the FBI does not?

The guy who rails nonstop about the justice dept and the war on drugs is now a FBI flag waver.

You can't make this shit up.

And all you Trumpcucks are carrying water for ISIS. Yuck

CBOE Since when is an ISIS inspired terrorist = to a well known leftist activist?

Do you think any ISIS inspired terrorist would kill only American republicans and let go or spare American democrats? Has there ever, once, in the history of radical Islam been an instance where the Republicans were killed and the Democrats let go?

I know you will see this question, so please try to answer.

You are still missing the point.

The FBI was making a statement of ignorance "we don't know nuttin" a few hours after the event. Of course they didn't know anything at the time.

The FBI's statement at 8 am Monday morning, before they even had time to drink their coffee, does not in any way contradict ISIS's claim.

CBOEtrader says

The FBI's statement at 8 am Monday morning, before they even had time to drink their coffee, does not in any way contradict ISIS's claim.

As of today, the FBI is still asking the public for any information for the motive of the shooter, but they know with 100% accuracy, it's not ISIS related less than 24 hours after the shooting.

CBOE said...The FBI was making a statement of "we don't know nutting"

Which further calls into question your statement he is
1. Well known
2. Leftist Activist
3. MSM won't report it.

Please explain how you came to the conclusion he was WELL KNOWN when the FBI is still asking for leads.

me123 says

Dan8267 says

Does anyone here actually believe that CBOEtrader is right that the Las Vegas shooter was an ISIS operative? Please come forth now so we have a list of fools on the record.

Do you have any verifiable proof that he 100% wasn't. Please post it.

I don't have any verifiable proof that you 100% don't rape dead goats.

CBOEtrader says

Can't tell if you are lying or stupid.

You are lying and stupid.

CBOEtrader says

Mn't tell if you are lying or stups guy was MOST LIKELY anti-trump.

A meaningless statement. The probability that he was anti-Trump is either 100% or 0% and nothing in between. He either was or was not. Events either happen or do not. The only meaningful property is that of repeatable events occurring at known ratios. A specific person being anti-Trump is not a repeatable event.

You are asserting bullshit simply because you need him to be a part of the opposing team instead of your team. Well, then if he turns out to be a part of your team, then by your own analysis, your team is evil.


CBOEtrader says

I am saying ISIS is a legit THEORY.

No, that's not what you said. You said it was a certainty that he was ISIS and cited several pieces of propaganda to support your ideology despite all investigators stating that such rumors are baseless and harmful to spread.

CBOEtrader says

So, to be clear, dans position is "zero % chance" of radicalization.

I never stated anything remotely like that. ISIS is evil and has brainwashed a lot of people. But there is absolutely no reason to believe this person is one of them and every reason to believe that isn't so. He does not remotely fit the profile. No investigator thinks he's connected to ISIS.

CBOEtrader says

That is pure ignorance based on identity politics.

And what exactly do you with your small brain think my identity politics are?

Don't go accusing others of identity politics to cover up your despicable identity politics.

Government in CA is left wing terrorism, a cruel abuse of human beings.

anonymous says

CBOE said...The FBI was making a statement of "we don't know nutting"

Which further calls into question your statement he is
1. Well known
2. Leftist Activist
3. MSM won't report it.

Please explain how you came to the conclusion he was WELL KNOWN when the FBI is still asking for leads.

For the nth time, BECAUSE ISIS TOLD HIM SO

YES, ISIS LOVES HIM
YES, ISIS LOVES HIM
YES, ISIS LOVES HIM!!!
THE BIBLE TELLS HIM SO

The delicious irony in this case is paddock appears not to have any political ideology whatsoever. He appears to not have voted in 2016 2012 or 2008. There are conflicting reports about whether he registered in 2004 as democrat or republican - but no confirmation he voted even then.

In the word of his brother he had "No strong religious or political positions he was "just a guy". Meaning the notion the guy was a political activist or suffering from TDS is absurd.

He is like 60-80 percent of this country who is not a slave to political infotainment and likely went to his grave never having ever heard of "identity politics". You all hope to someday be as blissfully free of political nonsense as he was.

You all hope to someday be as blissfully free of political nonsense as he was.

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Amen.

Dan8267 says

You said it was a certainty that he was ISIS

Proof that Dan is a liar

Dan8267 says

If at this point you still think it's ISIS behind the shooting, you're a fucking idiot.

LOL, except every expert disagrees with you.

Dan8267 says

The probability that he was anti-Trump is either 100% or 0% and nothing in between.

Proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that Dan doesn't understand statistics

Dan8267 says

Don't go accusing others of identity politics to cover up your despicable identity politics.

I'm looking at the only facts available, whereas you are denying any possibility of ISIS radicalization. Admit there is a legit chance he was radicalized, ya know, because there is MORE than a zero % chance that ISIS's claim is accurate.

CBOEtrader says

Dan8267 says

The probability that he was anti-Trump is either 100% or 0% and nothing in between.

Proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that Dan doesn't understand statistics

But he does understand sex with farm animals.