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CBOE said "for starters"

Ok - so so far, we have a statement from a group which has a long history of taking credit and little credibility to back it up. What else do you have to support your claim?

Incidentally CBOE, your claim at its core consists of 3 components:

1. well known
2. leftist activist
3. MSM cover up

Your link is very tenuous support for item #2. Please continue to substantiate your claim.

CBOEtrader says

For starters: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/isis-vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock-repeat-claim-islamic-state-responsibility-police-gunman-motive-a7986161.html

It's true because ISIS says its true. Now CBOE is a true defender of ISIS. Now that's funny. Who says right winguts have no sense of humor.

bob2356 says

CBOEtrader says

For starters: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/isis-vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock-repeat-claim-islamic-state-responsibility-police-gunman-motive-a7986161.html

It's true because ISIS says its true. Now CBOE is a true defender of ISIS. Now that's funny. Who says right winguts have no sense of humor.

Evidence does not equal guaranteed truth. You tards are all changing the topic, just to be difficult.

The evidence suggests this guy is suffering from TDS. Do you have evidence that contradicts this?

jazz_music says

a preemptive strike measure to combat the right wing.

Its a legit theory, obviously nowhere close to definitive.

The problem is the rampant righteousness of today's left. Convincing people that Trump is hitler and his supporters are nazi's give TDS sufferers the righteous delusion that violence is justified.

So keep arguing about Fox news (lolz) or nitpicking on what level of TDS sufferer this guy was. The point is that the MSM is whipping up a violent frenzy. Expect attacks like this to become more common, most likely from both sides, as soft brained fools on both sides continue to buy into the narrative of hate.

CBOE said "you tards are all changing the subject"

I agree. After you are done shooting the bull with the others, please continue to substantiate your claim:

1. Well known
2. Leftist activist
3. MSM cover up

You offered up your isis article "for starters" as to item#2. Please continue.

CBOEtrader says

Evidence does not equal guaranteed truth. You tards are all changing the topic, just to be difficult.

The evidence suggests this guy is suffering from TDS. Do you have evidence that contradicts this?

Airline tickets to Syria would be evidence. Pictures of paddock praying in a mosque with a known ISIS operative would be evidence. It's true because isis says it's true doesn't constitute evidence of any kind. Why do the right wingnuts have so much trouble with the concept of evidence?

You changed the narrative from far left terrorist to ISIS operative. Trump was never mentioned, only ISIS. That would be evidence that makes you the tard that is changing the topic.

Shaffer

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/353518-terror-experts-puzzled-by-isis-claim-in-las-vegas-attack
"Experts who track the group [ISIS] closely say that when it comes to attacks in the West, if ISIS is claiming responsibility, there typically was some kind of connection between the perpetrator and the group."

Nothing to see here. Just an angry old white guy. Move along. Case closed.

Oh wait, perp doesn't fit the profile of a typical psychologically broken mass shooter? He doesn't fit the convenient theory of aggravated gambling loser either? Mass security camera footage and media recovered from the scene yet to be disclosed to the public? Possibility of perp having accomplice(s)? Possibility of radicalization?

Nothing to see here, move on sheep.

FortWayne says

He's either Muslim or leftist. Those are the crazy once constantly hating America for it's freedoms.

careful. The TDS sufferers will point out your lack of verbal qualifiers, take this as a definitive statement and pedantically accuse you of being a liar.

Watch...

CBOE said "I don't deal in absolutes"

Yes you do. Here are some examples:

1. The sky is blue
2 "This man is a well known leftist activist"
3. 1+1=2

anonymous says

CBOE said "I don't deal in absolutes"

Yes you do. Here are some examples:

1. The sky is blue
2 "This man is a well known leftist activist"
3. 1+1=2

Correction. YOU HEAR in absolutes. Thats not my fault.

I've been crystal clear that I am merely pointing out the only evidence we have, and the best theory from that evidence.

Ahh great your back. So please point out evidence that he is

1. Well known

CBOEtrader says

We have evidence suggesting a most likely theory.

So your evidence is Schafer. That is all you offered. By his account all 65 year olds are Trump haters.

What Shafer says is completely and utter diarrhea. What is he an expert of? Going on Fox and saying what they want him to say? He can't even look into the camera because he knows he is just making shit up. So any other "evidence" .

CBOEtrader says

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/353518-terror-experts-puzzled-by-isis-claim-in-las-vegas-attack
"Experts who track the group [ISIS] closely say that when it comes to attacks in the West, if ISIS is claiming responsibility, there typically was some kind of connection between the perpetrator and the group."

Next paragraph.
"The group does often claim responsibility for attacks that may have been merely inspired by the group’s ideology — not directed or funded by ISIS leadership. In either case, the group will credit “a soldier of the Caliphate.”"

http://nypost.com/2017/10/06/vegas-shooter-showed-off-his-gun-room-to-houseguest/
Le Fevre said Paddock became very defensive when asked about the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms.

“I raised that question with Steve and it’s something that he came back at me with an incredible degree of vigor,” he said.

“He was very strict and very firm on the fact that it’s a right. It’s the freedom of every American to participate, to own a gun and use it … when need be. I was shocked. There was no compassion in regard to my question.”

CBOEtrader says

Yet again I win the debate.

It's amazing how the biggest idiots always think they are the greatest geniuses. But hey, double down yet again on the nonsense that the shooter was an ISIS operative. After all you heard it on Fox News and The Hill. Just more evidence that the conservative right is batshit crazy and dumb as shit.

CBOEtrader says

A theory that is 50% accurate would still be the most likely theory we have.

Donald Trump is a man who works for ISIS. That's 50% accurate. After all, Trump is a man and that's half the statement.

CBOEtrader says

FortWayne says

He's either Muslim or leftist. Those are the crazy once constantly hating America for it's freedoms.

careful. The TDS sufferers will point out your lack of verbal qualifiers, take this as a definitive statement and pedantically accuse you of being a liar.

You're not a liar for being a dumb ass who believed stupid shit. You're a liar for telling lies. That's how being a liar works.

Pee Wee Herman called. He wants his insults back, piggy. The petting farm also called. They want their goats back.

piggy needs to be banned from the site again and all his alts deleted.

Dan8267 says

It's amazing how the biggest idiots always think they are the greatest geniuses.

Its the cutest when Dan talks about himself

me123 says

There you go folks, when Dan has nothing but uncivil insults, you know you've won.

Checkmate (again)

Fact.

jazz_music says

Dan8267 says

the biggest idiots always think they are the greatest geniuses

every stupid person thinks they are the only ones who have a brain.

Lol, yet again, Dan is projecting. This is fun to watch

jazz_music says

CBOEtrader says

Lol, yet again, Dan is projecting. This is fun to watch

It is bitter.

Yes it is bitter, but that's Dan's SOP when he looses an argument.

Does anyone here actually believe that CBOEtrader is right that the Las Vegas shooter was an ISIS operative? Please come forth now so we have a list of fools on the record.

CBOEtrader was demonstrated just how much of an ideologue idiot he is and how little actual evidence affects his perception of reality.

The fact that piggy is on his side tells you everything you need to know about team crazy.

me123 says

Dan8267 says

Does anyone here actually believe that CBOEtrader is right that the Las Vegas shooter was an ISIS operative? Please come forth now so we have a list of fools on the record.

Do you have any verifiable proof that he 100% wasn't. Please post it.

You’re asking him to prove a negative. You’re very stupid.

Why not share the evidence that he was? I know why you won’t, because you don’t have any

Dan8267 says

Does anyone here actually believe that CBOEtrader is right that the Las Vegas shooter was an ISIS operative?

Can't tell if you are lying or stupid. My position AGAIN is that this guy was MOST LIKELY anti-trump. Vengeful leftist and possible ISIS involvement are the best current theories we have.

Low intellect people fail to understand the concept of odds. Your simple mind is all black/white. I am not saying HE IS Isis. That's your idiotic straw man.

I am saying ISIS is a legit THEORY. Perhaps even the best theory we have regarding an ambiguous situation.

Keep lying or being retarded though.

So, to be clear, dans position is "zero % chance" of radicalization. That is pure ignorance based on identity politics.

PCGyver says

Yet you present no evidence.

ISIS say's it's true is all the evidence anyone needs. Seriously.

PCGyver says

CBOEtrader says

I am saying ISIS is a legit THEORY. Perhaps even the best theory we have regarding an ambiguous situation.

Yet you present no evidence.

You didnt read the thread. ISIS claimed him. Their claims have a track record of accuracy.

For ex: http://www.denverpost.com/2016/07/27/isis-clamied-attacks-worth-reading-closely/ "Many have lampooned the Islamic State as an organization keen to claim each and every terrorist attack around the world, but analysts say it has a vested interest in being accurate. “*They’re careful about it*. They couch their terms a bit,” said Berger. “If they can credibly insert themselves into the narrative around an attack, they win, essentially.” "

Or : "http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-terror-attack-claim-real-true-legitimate-fake-false-how-to-know-a7701046.html " "A simple tabulation of past claims of responsibility for attacks in the West shows that Isis has been surprisingly disciplined in only claiming attacks that the terror group has either directed, enabled or else inspired," Rukmini Callimachi, a New York Times correspondent focusing on Isis and al-Qaeda, told The Independent.

She added: "A large share of attacks now are inspired by the terror group. They are carried out by attackers who imbibed the ideology online, as opposed to carried out by the terror group's own personnel.

"What people seem to not understand is that an inspired attack is an attack by the terror group." "

So when a group that has a "highly disciplined" track record claims this man as a caliphate, that equals legit evidence to support the theory.

Lmao what a fucking moron.

That’s the entirety of your evidence? Because Isis told you? Great American, huh

errc says

Lmao what a fucking moron.

Lol, keep sticking your head in the sand. You cling to your identity politics rather than look at real world evidence. YOU are behaving like a useful idiot. Good luck w that

CBOEtrader says

errc says

Lmao what a fucking moron.

Lol, keep sticking your head in the sand. You cling to your identity politics rather than look at real world evidence. YOU are behaving like a useful idiot. Good luck w that

How do you figure?

I’m open to any possible scenario. Just follow the evidence

errc says

How do you figure?

Lets see... a group that has been "surprisingly disciplined in only claiming attacks that the terror group has either directed, enabled or else inspired" claims this attack.

errc: "I KNOW THEY ARE LYING CAUSE REASONS AND ANYONE WHO DOESNT AGREE W ME IS IGNORANT."

Compare this to every expert: "An ISIS claim is worthy of deeper investigation given their track record."

CBOE: "I agree with the experts, ISIS involvement is a legit theory that should be considered."

errc: "UNLESS YOU IGNORE REALITY YOU ARE AN IDIOT."

CBOE: "LOLZ."

Yeah that's called being a useful idiot.

Let’s see

ISIS claims responsibility

The FBI said that Paddock and the Las Vegas shooting has no connection to ISIS

I side with America

You side with ISIS

Who’s the useful idiot?

errc says

The FBI said that Paddock and the Las Vegas shooting has no connection to ISIS

They said no KNOWN connection.

You are hearing what you want to hear rather than the truth. This is confirmation bias of your identity politics.

errc says

Who’s the useful idiot?

The answer to that is clear.

Right. No known connection. Do you disagree with the FBI? Do you know something that the FBI does not?

You are hearing what you want to hear rather than the truth. This is confirmation bias of your identity politics.

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Seems to be a much more accurate description of yourself. Seems you are projecting. And ignorant. I have no “identity politics “. Can you say the same?

I thought we’re supposed to wait for evidence, rather than to jump to conclusions, and form opinions based on nothing more than your feels.

Do you consider ISIS trustworthy?

errc says

The FBI said that Paddock and the Las Vegas shooting has no connection to ISIS

I side with America

Is that the same FBI that has been searching for Russian collusion for 15 months along with 16 other intelligence agencies, but still doesn't have any evidence? But we should believe the FBI statement that they came out with in less that 24 hours on the shooter, even though all other news reports claim this guy was a ghost, with virtually no history?

That FBI??