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HEY YOU
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2017 Oct 27, 2:40pm
Sniper says
,when Mueller releases the results of his investigation.
How the mighty will fall.
For those that choose to DIE DUMB! All opposition research is paid for or is it free for Republicans.
More bombshells are to come.
,when Mueller releases the results of his investigation.
How the mighty will fall.
For those that choose to DIE DUMB! All opposition research is paid for or is it free for Republicans.
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joeyjojojunior
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2017 Oct 27, 2:41pm
Sniper says
How exactly is that a bombshell?
Every campaign since the dawn of time has gotten oppo research.
The hilarious thing is how the Trumpcucks have jumped all over this--what do we have a dozen threads on it now?--to try to distract from the coming news from Mueller. When it turns out that this dossier is all confirmed, I'm going to laugh my butt off.
The confirmation this week that Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee paid an opposition-research firm for a “dossier” on Donald Trump is bombshell news.
How exactly is that a bombshell?
Every campaign since the dawn of time has gotten oppo research.
The hilarious thing is how the Trumpcucks have jumped all over this--what do we have a dozen threads on it now?--to try to distract from the coming news from Mueller. When it turns out that this dossier is all confirmed, I'm going to laugh my butt off.
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joeyjojojunior
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2017 Oct 27, 3:31pm
Sniper says
It's behind a paywall so no, I didn't read it all. It's an opinion piece though so I'm relatively certain it contains nothing that would affect anything I wrote.
Didn't read the article at the OP, did you?
It's behind a paywall so no, I didn't read it all. It's an opinion piece though so I'm relatively certain it contains nothing that would affect anything I wrote.
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lostand confused
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2017 Oct 27, 3:35pm
lostand confused
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2017 Oct 27, 3:35pm
The hypocricy of the dems-jaw dropping. Russia, Russia, Russia, treason, traitor-oh it is just opposition research when it was Hilalry that pays the Russians.
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HEY YOU
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2017 Oct 27, 4:40pm
Anyone heard about who funded the dossier lately?
HA! HA! HA!
So many stupid fucks!
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/us/politics/trump-dossier-paul-singer.html?contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=66009834
HA! HA! HA!
So many stupid fucks!
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/us/politics/trump-dossier-paul-singer.html?contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=66009834
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anonymous
2017 Oct 27, 5:03pm
Trump collusion with Russia to influence elections: nothingburger.
Clinton campaign gathers info on Trump collusion: get a rope!
Clinton campaign gathers info on Trump collusion: get a rope!
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MisdemeanorRebel
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2017 Oct 27, 5:30pm
MisdemeanorRebel
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2017 Oct 27, 5:30pm
PCGyver says
Mark Elias of Pekins Coie, Hillary for America's General Counsel paid Fusion GPS for the dossier. It's coming out in Discovery, so there's no sugarcoating it. Not disclosing it earlier may be a Campaign Finance Reporting violation.
https://www.perkinscoie.com/en/professionals/marc-e-elias.html
A Republican Donor, believed to be on Jeb!'s team, did pay Fusion GPS for Oppo Research but stopped funding after Jeb!!!! dropped out, months before the Dossier was finalized.
It's not at all unusual for one camp to leak to internal enemies of a candidate in the other party. For example, the famous "Obama in a Turban" photo was leaked to various Republican Pundits in 2008 by the Hillary Campaign. A similar thing happened with the Democrats and McCain.
It's all coming out in a lawsuit, no dodging this train.
At the very, very, least, the Dems co-paid for the Dossier. If there is another payee, it was Trump's GOPe foes.
So who funded that dossier?
Mark Elias of Pekins Coie, Hillary for America's General Counsel paid Fusion GPS for the dossier. It's coming out in Discovery, so there's no sugarcoating it. Not disclosing it earlier may be a Campaign Finance Reporting violation.
https://www.perkinscoie.com/en/professionals/marc-e-elias.html
A Republican Donor, believed to be on Jeb!'s team, did pay Fusion GPS for Oppo Research but stopped funding after Jeb!!!! dropped out, months before the Dossier was finalized.
It's not at all unusual for one camp to leak to internal enemies of a candidate in the other party. For example, the famous "Obama in a Turban" photo was leaked to various Republican Pundits in 2008 by the Hillary Campaign. A similar thing happened with the Democrats and McCain.
It's all coming out in a lawsuit, no dodging this train.
At the very, very, least, the Dems co-paid for the Dossier. If there is another payee, it was Trump's GOPe foes.
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joeyjojojunior
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2017 Oct 27, 7:00pm
lostand confused says
I think you're confused. The oppo research that was partially funded by Clinton and the Dems did not pay anything to the Russians. She paid a UK company.
There is no hint of collusion with respect to the dossier.
The hypocricy of the dems-jaw dropping. Russia, Russia, Russia, treason, traitor-oh it is just opposition research when it was Hilalry that pays the Russians.
I think you're confused. The oppo research that was partially funded by Clinton and the Dems did not pay anything to the Russians. She paid a UK company.
There is no hint of collusion with respect to the dossier.
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anonymous
2017 Oct 27, 7:01pm
This looks much more like a desperate attempt to get Trump out of the news to me. No one is even alleging any actual crimes except for the alt-lunatics.
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joeyjojojunior
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2017 Oct 27, 7:01pm
TwoScoopsMcGee says
I'll ask again. So what? Please tell me a candidate that didn't pay for oppo research?
I'm 100% certain Trump did.
At the very, very, least, the Dems co-paid for the Dossier. If there is another payee, it was Trump's GOPe foes.
I'll ask again. So what? Please tell me a candidate that didn't pay for oppo research?
I'm 100% certain Trump did.
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joeyjojojunior
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2017 Oct 27, 8:25pm
Sniper says
Glad you brought this up. Let me help to educate you as to why they are different situations:
1. The Russian lawyer was seemingly a representative of the Russian Government.
2. There was no evidence of a payment. It appeared to be a quid pro quo with Trump agreeing to do favors in the future for this information.
3. The information that the Russian lawyer was set to provide was likely obtained by the Russian Government illegally.
4. Paying for oppo research is exceedingly normal. Doing quid pro quo with foreign governments to obtain oppo research is not normal and is likely illegal.
Wasn't your team SCREAMING for indictments, felonies, collusion, etc. when Trump Jr. received emails and had a meeting with a "Russian" lawyer for possible oppo research?
Why is doing oppo research NOW not a big deal?
Glad you brought this up. Let me help to educate you as to why they are different situations:
1. The Russian lawyer was seemingly a representative of the Russian Government.
2. There was no evidence of a payment. It appeared to be a quid pro quo with Trump agreeing to do favors in the future for this information.
3. The information that the Russian lawyer was set to provide was likely obtained by the Russian Government illegally.
4. Paying for oppo research is exceedingly normal. Doing quid pro quo with foreign governments to obtain oppo research is not normal and is likely illegal.
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MisdemeanorRebel
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2017 Oct 28, 8:46am
MisdemeanorRebel
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2017 Oct 28, 8:46am
joeyjojojunior says
I'm sure he did.
However:
1. He didn't pay a foreign spy
1b. Who in turn used Democrat Money to pay Russian Spies
2. He didn't hide the transaction and indeed tell the media the Campaign had nothing to do with it. (Per Haberman and others)
3. He didn't have the oppo research Spy paid AGAIN by the FBI with tax dollars (this is a neglected part of the story)
4. He didn't see the FBI get a FISA warrant with help from the Obama DOJ using the Oppo Research by a Foreign Spy as an excuse..
5. Resulting in a Patriot Wiretap of a the Political Campaign Opposition
Unprecedented. We cannot normalize using foreign spies to allow a Political Party to justify Patriot act spying against their opponents.
I'll ask again. So what? Please tell me a candidate that didn't pay for oppo research?
I'm sure he did.
However:
1. He didn't pay a foreign spy
1b. Who in turn used Democrat Money to pay Russian Spies
2. He didn't hide the transaction and indeed tell the media the Campaign had nothing to do with it. (Per Haberman and others)
3. He didn't have the oppo research Spy paid AGAIN by the FBI with tax dollars (this is a neglected part of the story)
4. He didn't see the FBI get a FISA warrant with help from the Obama DOJ using the Oppo Research by a Foreign Spy as an excuse..
5. Resulting in a Patriot Wiretap of a the Political Campaign Opposition
Unprecedented. We cannot normalize using foreign spies to allow a Political Party to justify Patriot act spying against their opponents.
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CBOEtrader
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2017 Oct 28, 9:10am
CBOEtrader
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2017 Oct 28, 9:10am
But oppo research? Right guys? Right...
How many times over does the DNC and team Hillary need to prove they are the most dangerous facet in politics today? Stealing primaries, employing thieves to spy on its members, misappropriating donated money, and now financing political hit-pieces on political opponents. Watch team left #buttrump their way around reality.
TwoScoopsMcGee says
How many times over does the DNC and team Hillary need to prove they are the most dangerous facet in politics today? Stealing primaries, employing thieves to spy on its members, misappropriating donated money, and now financing political hit-pieces on political opponents. Watch team left #buttrump their way around reality.
TwoScoopsMcGee says
I'm sure he did.
However:
1. He didn't pay a foreign spy
1b. Who in turn used Democrat Money to pay Russian Spies
2. He didn't hide the transaction and indeed tell the media the Campaign had nothing to do with it. (Per Haberman and others)
3. He didn't have the oppo research Spy paid AGAIN by the FBI with tax dollars (this is a neglected part of the story)
4. He didn't see the FBI get a FISA warrant with help from the Obama DOJ using the Oppo Research by a Foreign Spy as an excuse..
5. Resulting in a Patriot Wiretap of a the Political Campaign Opposition
Unprecedented. We cannot normalize using foreign spies to allow a Political Party to justify Patriot act spying against their opponents.
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Shaman
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2017 Oct 28, 2:17pm
Shaman
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2017 Oct 28, 2:17pm
joeyjojojunior says
1-4. Neither the research details nor the transaction details of its cost to the Trump campaign were either revealed or even discussed! So nothing was “paid for.” No payment was even discussed! No deal was made or even come close to being made! There was only a Russian lawyer misrepresenting her intentions to get access to Trump’s campaign. Once this was clear, all parties cancelled talks and walked away. THATS the very definition of a NOTHINGBURGER!!!!!!!!!!
The Russian lawyer was seemingly a representative of the Russian Government.
2. There was no evidence of a payment. It appeared to be a quid pro quo with Trump agreeing to do favors in the future for this information.
3. The information that the Russian lawyer was set to provide was likely obtained by the Russian Government illegally.
4. Paying for oppo research is exceedingly normal. Doing quid pro quo with foreign governments to obtain oppo research is not normal and is likely illegal.
1-4. Neither the research details nor the transaction details of its cost to the Trump campaign were either revealed or even discussed! So nothing was “paid for.” No payment was even discussed! No deal was made or even come close to being made! There was only a Russian lawyer misrepresenting her intentions to get access to Trump’s campaign. Once this was clear, all parties cancelled talks and walked away. THATS the very definition of a NOTHINGBURGER!!!!!!!!!!
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MisdemeanorRebel
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2017 Oct 28, 3:22pm
MisdemeanorRebel
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2017 Oct 28, 3:22pm
TwoScoopsMcGee says
I'm withdrawing the "FBI Paid Steele a second time" claim ... turns out the source for that story in the WaPo was something like "According to sources familiar with the story." which is goddamn low energy. That's even more shady than "High ranking government official" or "Intelligence Official". Anybody could be "Familiar with the story" including random CTR trolls on Twitter.
No standards in the media, sad.
3. He didn't have the oppo research Spy paid AGAIN by the FBI with tax dollars (this is a neglected part of the story)
I'm withdrawing the "FBI Paid Steele a second time" claim ... turns out the source for that story in the WaPo was something like "According to sources familiar with the story." which is goddamn low energy. That's even more shady than "High ranking government official" or "Intelligence Official". Anybody could be "Familiar with the story" including random CTR trolls on Twitter.
No standards in the media, sad.
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MisdemeanorRebel
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2017 Dec 27, 3:23pm
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-mccain-associate-subpoenaed-in-trump-dossier-probe/article/2644460?platform=hootsuite
America's Most Anti-American Senator will know history will be unkind to him before he passes.
There's a strong possibility the FBI paid Steele for the Dossier, so he got paid twice, once by the Hillary Camp's Law Firm and again by the FBI under Obama's DOJ.
MisdemeanorRebel
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2017 Dec 27, 3:23pm
House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes has issued a subpoena to David Kramer, a former State Department official who, in late November 2016, traveled to London to receive a briefing and a copy of the Trump dossier from its author, former British spy Christopher Steele. Kramer then returned to the U.S. to give the document to Sen. John McCain.
Kramer is a senior fellow at the McCain Institute for International Leadership at Arizona State University.
McCain later took a copy of the dossier to the FBI's then-director, James Comey. But the FBI already had the document; Steele himself gave the dossier to the bureau in installments, reportedly beginning in early July 2016.
McCain, recovering in Arizona from treatments for cancer, has long refused to detail his actions regarding the dossier. For his part, Kramer was interviewed by the House Intelligence Committee on Dec. 19. The new subpoena stems from statements Kramer made in that interview.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-mccain-associate-subpoenaed-in-trump-dossier-probe/article/2644460?platform=hootsuite
America's Most Anti-American Senator will know history will be unkind to him before he passes.
There's a strong possibility the FBI paid Steele for the Dossier, so he got paid twice, once by the Hillary Camp's Law Firm and again by the FBI under Obama's DOJ.
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HappyGilmore
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2017 Dec 27, 3:37pm
TwoScoopsPlissken says
That would be 3 times then since it was originally one of the Republican primary opponents that commissioned it (Cruz?)
Regardless, isn't it the FBIs charter to gather intelligence?
There's a strong possibility the FBI paid Steele for the Dossier, so he got paid twice, once by the Hillary Camp's Law Firm and again by the FBI under Obama's DOJ.
That would be 3 times then since it was originally one of the Republican primary opponents that commissioned it (Cruz?)
Regardless, isn't it the FBIs charter to gather intelligence?
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More bombshells are to come.
The Fusion GPS saga isn’t over. The Clinton-DNC funding is but a first glimpse into the shady election doings concealed within that oppo-research firm’s walls.
The answers are in Fusion’s bank records. Fusion has doggedly refused to divulge the names of its clients for months now, despite extraordinary pressure.
Because there’s something Fusion cares about keeping secret even more than the Clinton-DNC news—and that something is in those bank records. The release of the client names was a last-ditch effort to appease the House Intelligence Committee, which issued subpoenas to Fusion’s bank and was close to obtaining records until Fusion filed suit last week.
FBI bombshells are also yet to come.
The bureau has stonewalled congressional subpoenas for documents related to the dossier, but that became harder with the DNC-Clinton news.
We may learn the FBI knew the dossier was a bought-and-paid-for product of Candidate Clinton, but used it anyway.
There’s plenty yet to come with regard to the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Every senior Democrat is disclaiming knowledge of the dossier deal, leaving Perkins Coie holding the bag. But while it is not unusual for law firms to hire opposition-research outfits for political clients, it is highly unusual for a law firm to pay bills without a client’s approval.
Somewhere, Perkins Coie has documents showing who signed off on those bills, and they aren’t protected by attorney-client privilege.
And there are still bombshells with regard to unmasking of Americans in surveilled communications.
If the Steele dossier reports (which appear to date back to June 2016) were making their way into the hands of senior DNC and Clinton political operatives, you can bet they were making their way to the Obama White House. This may explain why Obama political appointees began monitoring the Trump campaign and abusing unmasking.
No, this probe of the Democratic Party’s Russian dalliance has a long, long way to go. And, let us hope, with revelations too big for even the media to ignore.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-coming-russia-bombshells-1509059214