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Sniper says

The chart says a lot in the 10 years between 2005 and 2015.
My view.....Age 18 should not be the magic number that determines when a child needs to fly the nest. Times have changed. If they are gonna go for further education or some kind of training, they will be more dependent on you until the 20's. Doctors can easily be in training till 30.
The magic number should be when the kid is completely done with education, working, and saves up enough to get their own home.

Sniper says

Strategist says

The magic number should be when the kid is completely done with education, working, and saves up enough to get their own home.

Unfortunately, that's a problem (and why that chart has grown). They CAN'T save for their own home, so that's why they're living with mommy and daddy into their 30's. They need to leave right after college and go rent. There isn't a better motivator to improve and advance in your job than having to deal with a landlord that's NOT mom and dad.

If they don't take advantage of living at home to save up for a down payment, and just fritter away their paycheck, they deserve to be kicked out. No point in feeding a bad habit.

Living in mom and dad’s basement? More like refitting one of the rooms in my house so they can move in with me. You know, since they didn’t plan for retirement and can’t possibly maintain a household on SS alone. When my dad can’t work anymore they’ll have to live somewhere.

I’m mostly referring to the government pensions that Boomers awarded themselves which are on track to bankrupt state after state after city. And Daddy Trump is going to help them do it because Boomers are his strongest supporters.

And as for the idea of kicking out your kids at 18... maybe you were a shitty dad who thinks of kids as just a burden one must tolerate as a result of having sex. I think of my kids as a blessing, family, and friends for life. If they need help getting started, I’m going to do what I can, whether that means paying for college, giving them a place to live, or paying for a few peripherals to allow them to succeed, I’ll do it. My kids are my life and I would never kick them out.

Quigley says

Living in mom and dad’s basement? More like refitting one of the rooms in my house so they can move in with me. You know, since they didn’t plan for retirement and can’t possibly maintain a household on SS alone. When my dad can’t work anymore they’ll have to live somewhere.

I’m mostly referring to the government pensions that Boomers awarded themselves which are on track to bankrupt state after state after city. And Daddy Trump is going to help them do it because Boomers are his strongest supporters.

And as for the idea of kicking out your kids at 18... maybe you were a shitty dad who thinks of kids as just a burden one must tolerate as a result of having sex. I think of my kids as a blessing, family, and friends for life. If they need help getting started, I’m going to do what I can, whether that means paying for college, giving them a place to live, or paying for a few peripherals to allow them to succeed, I’ll do it. My kids are my life and I would never kick them out.

The basic idea is to prepare your child to thrive in a competitive world. As long as they are moving in the right direction, you can help them in any possible way. What happens if the adult child now decides to be a bum and goof off all day long? At that point you need to kick his butt if you want to be a good dad.

Republicans' great start at destroying American's military.
5 time Draft Dodger needs bodies to fight.
Let the sons & daughters of other parents die.
How many Trumps have served & fought to protect our Constitution & country?
How dumb are Rep/Cons to risk their lives for cowards?

Sniper says

The problem with parents today is that want to be their kid's best friend, instead of being a PARENT and preparing them for adult hood

Do they ever call you?
Seems like you have a lot of time to yourself to post here.

Simply forcing kids to grow up fast isn’t all there is. Teaching them to be responsible and kind to others is more important. Building ingrained toughness can be done by encouraging them to try things they aren’t great at, things with a high degree of failure. After all, the most successful people are the ones who can fail over and over again and keep trying until they succeed.

Also, success doesn’t mean just money and things. To me, success is also community, and if you can’t manage to live in community with your own children, it’s not their fault, it’s yours.

I guess the difference is, I don’t want my kids to be struggling against me. I make rules and I stick to them very tightly! But I also explain the reasons for them, that they are in place to help us be safe and healthy and accomplish our daily goals. So no staying up until 11PM eating candy and playing video games on a school night, for instance.

The world will offer them plenty of challenges. I want to be their coach, offering rules, strategy, advice, and a home team. Their struggle shouldn’t be against me, but against the world and their own internal limitations.

Sniper says

It's worse than that, they moved back to the state and bought a house within 2 miles of us. They're over here (with my grandkids) all the time. And guess what, we actually have a "time out" corner that's been used for the grandkids a few times. Isn't that being really mean?

Yet, those grandkids want to come over ALL the time and never want to leave. Such mean grandparents

That's horrible. I would move.