patrick.net
An Antidote to Corporate Media
1,193,944 comments by 13,881 users - gabbar, SouthMtn online now
Patnet and censorship: Performance Art?
invite response
2017 Nov 14, 11:22am 36,765 views 160 comments
« First « Previous Comments 41 - 80 of 160 Next » Last » Search these comments
41
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 8:42am
Goran_K says
I have and I'm doing it. I am fighting for patnet to not become just another right wing think tank. You should have no more power over me than I have over you. You shouldn't be using your power lopsidedly. If @patrick can't see that you are posting off topic with comments that are inflammatory then maybe it is time to let patnet go to the dark side. I don't think a moderator should be allowed to exhibit such characteristics.
So perhaps if you want a better community, one with the type of quality content you seek, maybe you should look in the mirror and figure out what you can do to personally improve the communities quality first. Just a suggestion!
I have and I'm doing it. I am fighting for patnet to not become just another right wing think tank. You should have no more power over me than I have over you. You shouldn't be using your power lopsidedly. If @patrick can't see that you are posting off topic with comments that are inflammatory then maybe it is time to let patnet go to the dark side. I don't think a moderator should be allowed to exhibit such characteristics.
42
Goran_K
2017 Nov 18, 8:50am
Goran_K
2017 Nov 18, 8:50am
anon_13ce6 says
Prove it. I know you CAN do it, but are you doing it? I'll wait and see. Lots of interesting topics out there. Iron sharpening iron.
I have and I'm doing it.
Prove it. I know you CAN do it, but are you doing it? I'll wait and see. Lots of interesting topics out there. Iron sharpening iron.
43
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 9:05am
Onvacation says
as he should be in this place and deservedly so.
Actually, Ironman was number one liked
as he should be in this place and deservedly so.
44
Blurtman
2017 Nov 18, 9:09am
justme says
Yes, I posted a similar idea a while ago - an attempt by Patrick to show how easy it is to get people to acquiesce and even become partisan goons. Even if that was not the intent, it certainly has delivered the above.
I wonder if @Patrick has just staged a piece of censorship Performance Art by instituting omnipotent censorship, under the guise of "moderation", and crowd-sourced mass-silencing (encouraging the use of the "uncivil" button) on patrick.net.
Yes, I posted a similar idea a while ago - an attempt by Patrick to show how easy it is to get people to acquiesce and even become partisan goons. Even if that was not the intent, it certainly has delivered the above.
45
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 9:19am
Onvacation says
No I don't, care to remind me? Did that piece of shit Ironman run them off. That guy was the ultimate looser. Glad he isn't here anymore.
Yeah. We remember what happened to roberto, logan, and gary.
No I don't, care to remind me? Did that piece of shit Ironman run them off. That guy was the ultimate looser. Glad he isn't here anymore.
46
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 9:28am
Goran_K says
I see is that why you said this?
Goran_K says
So you want me to come back so you can make uncivil posts to my face rather than to me anonymously?
See the thing is, as a libertarian, I invite all trans-identities to come and enjoy PatNet.
I see is that why you said this?
Goran_K says
Transgenderism, transracial, pretty much most trans anything is just misdiagnosed mental illness.
So you want me to come back so you can make uncivil posts to my face rather than to me anonymously?
47
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 9:30am
Blurtman says
Reminds me of the Democrat who lost the primaries in NY, so ran as a Republican and won!
Goes to show how partisan and easily manipulated Republicans are. It’s pathetically sad
justme saysI wonder if @Patrick has just staged a piece of censorship Performance Art by instituting omnipotent censorship, under the guise of "moderation", and crowd-sourced mass-silencing (encouraging the use of the "uncivil" button) on patrick.net.
Yes, I posted a similar idea a while ago - an attempt by Patrick to show how easy it is to get people to acquiesce and even become partisan goons. Even if that was not the intent, it certainly has delivered the above.
Reminds me of the Democrat who lost the primaries in NY, so ran as a Republican and won!
Goes to show how partisan and easily manipulated Republicans are. It’s pathetically sad
49
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 9:57am
The frog has driven the not right wing nuts underground double anonymous.
51
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 10:04am
52
Onvacation
2017 Nov 18, 10:12am
Onvacation
2017 Nov 18, 10:12am
anon_13ce6 says
Are you transgender or transracist?
Goran_K saysTransgenderism, transracial, pretty much most trans anything is just misdiagnosed mental illness.
So you want me to come back so you can make uncivil posts to my face rather than to me anonymously?
Are you transgender or transracist?
54
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 10:34am
Patrick says
Your “moderator “ goron is lying again. He said everyone has a “mark as uncivil “ button. I don’t have one @Patrick
Working on all that today!
Your “moderator “ goron is lying again. He said everyone has a “mark as uncivil “ button. I don’t have one @Patrick
55
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 10:38am
Onvacation says
If your child is over 30 then it depends on your definition of safe.
anon_13ce6 saysDepends on what you mean by safe and how old they are. I'm not a sick fuck like Roy Moore, I don't go to the local mall looking for 14 year olds.I don't like to fuck goats
Good to know.
Are my children safe around you?
If your child is over 30 then it depends on your definition of safe.
56
Y
2017 Nov 18, 10:40am
Y
2017 Nov 18, 10:40am
But you do go to Chile looking for them, by your own words...
anon_13ce6 says
anon_13ce6 says
I don't go to the local mall looking for 14 year olds.
57
Patrick
2017 Nov 18, 10:42am
Patrick
2017 Nov 18, 10:42am
errc says
Goran did not lie. He was just unaware that I temporarily removed the uncivil link from some users because they were deliberately using it on perfectly valid comments.
Patrick saysWorking on all that today!
Your “moderator “ goron is lying again. He said everyone has a “mark as uncivil “ button. I don’t have one @Patrick
Goran did not lie. He was just unaware that I temporarily removed the uncivil link from some users because they were deliberately using it on perfectly valid comments.
58
Y
2017 Nov 18, 10:44am
Y
2017 Nov 18, 10:44am
Some of the anons are too obvious to not call out by name due to their posting pattern, obscure references only long term posters would have knowledge of, and finally, their pet phrases that slip through every now and then....
errc says
errc says
It seems uncivil and unhinged to call every anon by a pet name in reference to past members
59
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 10:47am
Patrick says
Except I’ve never done that
I’ve only ever marked posts as uncivil where I viewed them as such, as you requested. Your own words are to mark uncivil posts as uncivil.Try to be consistent, i know you can
errc saysPatrick saysWorking on all that today!
Your “moderator “ goron is lying again. He said everyone has a “mark as uncivil “ button. I don’t have one @Patrick
Goran did not lie. He was just unaware that I temporarily removed the uncivil link from some users because they were deliberately using it on perfectly valid comments.
Except I’ve never done that
I’ve only ever marked posts as uncivil where I viewed them as such, as you requested. Your own words are to mark uncivil posts as uncivil.Try to be consistent, i know you can
60
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 10:48am
BlueSardine says
Are you referring to CiC/Ironman/Sniper?
Some of the anons are too obvious to not call out by name due to their posting pattern, obscure references only long term posters would have knowledge of, and finally, their pet phrases that slip through every now and then....
errc saysIt seems uncivil and unhinged to call every anon by a pet name in reference to past members
Are you referring to CiC/Ironman/Sniper?
62
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 12:27pm
BlueSardine says
Wouldn't it be possible for an anon to exhibit that trait or characteristic just to trough you off their true identity?
Some of the anons are too obvious to not call out by name due to their posting pattern, obscure references only long term posters would have knowledge of, and finally, their pet phrases that slip through every now and then....
errc saysIt seems uncivil and unhinged to call every anon by a pet name in reference to past members
Wouldn't it be possible for an anon to exhibit that trait or characteristic just to trough you off their true identity?
63
Y
2017 Nov 18, 1:08pm
Y
2017 Nov 18, 1:08pm
Who mentioned gardening?
anon_30423 says
anon_30423 says
Wouldn't it be possible for an anon to exhibit that trait or characteristic just to trough you off their true identity?
64
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 1:10pm
Sniper says
From using it two or three times? I doubt it.
Maybe you should respect Patrick wishes and leave his site.
Why did you come back after he banned you the last time with your Ironman alt? Returning after banning is as uncivil as it gets
errc saysHe said everyone has a “mark as uncivil “ button. I don’t have one
That's because you wore yours out the other day. It was so used, Patrick has to build a new one for you.
From using it two or three times? I doubt it.
Maybe you should respect Patrick wishes and leave his site.
Why did you come back after he banned you the last time with your Ironman alt? Returning after banning is as uncivil as it gets
65
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 1:41pm
Sniper says
How am I being uncivil?
For pointing out facts that expose you for the uncivil poster that you are? I don’t find that in any way uncivil, it’s actually the pathway to a return to civility
errc saysFrom using it two or three times? I doubt it.
Maybe you should respect Patrick wishes and leave his site.
What happens to you on a Saturday? You become extremely uncivil. Is today a repeat of last Saturday?
How am I being uncivil?
For pointing out facts that expose you for the uncivil poster that you are? I don’t find that in any way uncivil, it’s actually the pathway to a return to civility
66
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 1:50pm
67
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 1:51pm
Sniper says
Like Patrick said, it’s important to speak the truth.
Ridding his site of uncivil trash is the only path to a return to incivility.
It’s hilarious you still haven’t realized all I’m doing is my best Sniper impersonation, so that everyone is reminded what you’re all about.
errc saysI don’t find that in any way uncivil, it’s actually the pathway to a return to civility
So, you feel calling people liars all day today with ZERO evidence or proof is a "pathway to a return to civility"??
You really follow a strange pathway.
Like Patrick said, it’s important to speak the truth.
Ridding his site of uncivil trash is the only path to a return to incivility.
It’s hilarious you still haven’t realized all I’m doing is my best Sniper impersonation, so that everyone is reminded what you’re all about.
68
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2017 Nov 18, 2:28pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2017 Nov 18, 2:28pm
This thread is so much lulz.
Rin, can you secure some hookers? Half of Pat.net needs to get laid.
Rin, can you secure some hookers? Half of Pat.net needs to get laid.
69
mell
2017 Nov 18, 2:33pm
Fucking White Male says
Agreed. That anon stuff is like keyboard cat.
This thread is so much lulz.
Rin, can you secure some hookers? Half of Pat.net needs to get laid.
Agreed. That anon stuff is like keyboard cat.
70
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 3:13pm
I understand now. Onvacation is goran's sock puppet account. keeps getting better and better!
71
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 3:15pm
Goran_K says
You did? That's strange because onvacations link is still up and it points to a thread, not a quote.
I saw him claim that ice would be gone in 5 years.
You did? That's strange because onvacations link is still up and it points to a thread, not a quote.
72
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 3:21pm
73
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 3:28pm
Sniper says
Yes @errc you should really try to spell Goron's name correctly
You should really learn how to spell his name correctly.
Yes @errc you should really try to spell Goron's name correctly
74
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 3:28pm
errc, I can't post links but you can. Google: "coastal flooding" patrick.net then click the little arrow that pulls up the cached image. It proves both onvacation and Goran lied about this.
76
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 4:07pm
anon_30423 says
Good question, I just looked, it seems that someone formerly known as Ironman is #triggered bigly. Seems someone hit a nerve
So who is putting the civil comments in jail today?
Good question, I just looked, it seems that someone formerly known as Ironman is #triggered bigly. Seems someone hit a nerve
77
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 4:12pm
errc says
anon_30423 saysmust be the wife comments, those were the first to go.So who is putting the civil comments in jail today?
Good question, I just looked, it seems that someone formerly known as Ironman is #triggered bigly. Seems someone hit a nerve
78
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 4:17pm
79
anonymous
2017 Nov 18, 4:21pm
anon_30423 says
Ever since Patrick came in and told Goron that he never censored Ironman/Sniper comment where he called Obama a nigger boy, they’ve been on a meltdown. Rather than just be true to his word and admitting he was wrong, and apologizing for falsely accusing someone for lying. It’s typical behavior of right wingers
errc saysanon_30423 saysmust be the wife comments, those were the first to go.So who is putting the civil comments in jail today?
Good question, I just looked, it seems that someone formerly known as Ironman is #triggered bigly. Seems someone hit a nerve
Ever since Patrick came in and told Goron that he never censored Ironman/Sniper comment where he called Obama a nigger boy, they’ve been on a meltdown. Rather than just be true to his word and admitting he was wrong, and apologizing for falsely accusing someone for lying. It’s typical behavior of right wingers
80
Y
2017 Nov 18, 4:25pm
Y
2017 Nov 18, 4:25pm
Why does there have to be a 'trail'?
Why not random patio squares?
anon_30423 says
Why not random patio squares?
anon_30423 says
Looks like he jailed one of his own comments to throw us off the trail.
« First « Previous Comments 41 - 80 of 160 Next » Last » Search these comments
It is more than a little ironic (but should not be surprising to any serious student of human nature) that right-wingers appear to be every bit as eager to censor their opponents as they have recently been accusing the left-wingers of being. And by that I mean the last several years of talk about liberals and their desire for "safe spaces" on and off university campuses, calling them "special snowflakes", and so on.
Well, the right-wing has in recent days been out in force on Patnet, trying to enforce a "safe space" , free of "uncivility" and "NSFW" material, and acting like special snowflakes themselves. And boy, are these right-wing special snowflakes melting down Patnet in a volcanic eruption of censorship actions.
The famous 1960s psychological experiment known as the Stanford Prisoner Project comes to mind as an analogy of sorts. That experiment showed what happens when you give authority for random people to control other random people. What soon happened was not pretty. Read up on it if you want.
Finally, I will revisit and highlight a suggestion I have made several times this year:
What I would like to see is to have free speech, and at the same time avoid massive storms of low-quality comments. For a blog, I think that means to make threads and comments a limited commodity for all posters. Specifically, to limit the number of threads that a user can post on any given day to 1 or 2, and to limit how many comments every user can post on every thread to 10, or 10% of the total number of comments on the thread, whichever is larger.
The purpose of moderation should not be to censor certain forms of expression, but rather to make everyone's time (or space) on the proverbial soapbox a valuable commodity. That way, users are more likely to spend their posting currency wisely. Users who wastes their currency by posting low-quality drivel will lose esteem, or at the very least not be able to dominate the discussion based on volume posted only.
Think of it as rules of order, a very lightweight and blog-adapted version of Robert's rules of order. (By the way, a quite well-known now former pat-netter just mentioned Robert's rules just days ago, and is hereby recognized.)
PS: I very well understand the meta-question as to whether the impact of a blog, as measured by commercial value or informative value, or even political/propaganda value(!), is reduced when the number of threads or comments are somewhat limited. I think many people may think so, perhaps even Patrick himself. Personally, I will take quality over quantity any day.
#misc