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And the reason for me to not move to CA just keep on coming.

mmmarvel says

And the reason for me to not move to CA just keep on coming.

Don’t be silly, we don’t force people to buy and smoke marijuana in CA.

You merely have the option as a human being to do it if you please, just like alcohol in your state. You can drink yourself to death or you can abstain from touching it. You have a brain and you can choose.

Look for an out of place black guy standing awkwardly in a white neighborhood.

You can buy alcohol, drugs, guns... only a matter of time before you can buy sex and slaves again. CA fail again.

Yes, the ability to buy guns and alcohol/marijuana always leads to the ability to buy slaves lol

For the record, I don’t smoke marijuana and don’t intend to buy it.

But outlawing it and filling up prisons for marijuana offenses is a travesty.

mmmarvel says

And the reason for me to not move to CA just keep on coming.

Because you hate freedom?

BayArea says

Don’t be silly, we don’t force people to buy and smoke marijuana in CA.

Enough dumb asses using alcohol driving, now let's increase that number by making weed legally available - what could possibly go wrong?? Like I said, just another reason to not live in CA.

For what it’s worth, this was mentioned on the show “Meet the Press”

Statistics on how the new law will influence the use of Marijuana::

20% - it will be easier to get
8% - consider might use it
72%- no plan to use it

mmmarvel says

Enough dumb asses using alcohol driving, now let's increase that number by making weed legally available - what could possibly go wrong?? Like I said, just another reason to not live in CA.

Actually, someone was telling me that the number of drunk driving accidents goes down the more that pot is legally available.

One explanation is that people tend to get stoned at home and so don't need to drive home from the bar. I suppose it's plausible.

States that legalize medical marijuana see fewer fatal car accidents, according to a new study, in part because people may be substituting marijuana smoking for drinking alcohol.

http://healthland.time.com/2011/12/02/why-medical-marijuana-laws-reduce-traffic-deaths/

mmmarvel says

Enough dumb asses using alcohol driving, now let's increase that number by making weed legally available - what could possibly go wrong?? Like I said, just another reason to not live in CA.

Weed affects people much differently than alcohol. When drunk, people retain a ton of agency and desires to do things and go places, as well as a belief that they can function as well or better than while sober. So they often drive faster and take more chances when they inevitably decide to go somewhere.
When stoned, people lose much agency, feel like doing absolutely nothing, and drive slow as a constipated shit if some force does get them on the road.
There’s really no comparison.

Quigley says

drive slow as a constipated shit if some force does get them on the road.

A bit of a generalization, albeit quite humorous. A lot of folks buy into the indica/sativa dichotomy of weed, where indica gives one couch lock, and sativa gives a more cerebral energizing high. So someone stoned on indica might be less able to drive well than someone who had gotten high on sativa.

A summary of studies: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/26/what-marijuana-legalization-did-to-car-accident-rates/?utm_term=.d8bb606a7972

Quigley says

When stoned, people lose much agency, feel like doing absolutely nothing, and drive slow as a constipated shit if some force does get them on the road.
There’s really no comparison.

And we shall see. Side note, I was a stoner way back when ... did I drive stoned, OH YEAH, all the time, every place. Do I drive drunk? Seeing as how I drink less than once a month (on average) the answer is no. Based on my past, I see nothing good, no reason for recreational weed, medical is a totally different animal. So as someone who has been on both sides of the issue, I think it is a stupid idea and just don't think it's going to work out well.

mmmarvel says

Quigley says

When stoned, people lose much agency, feel like doing absolutely nothing, and drive slow as a constipated shit if some force does get them on the road.
There’s really no comparison.

And we shall see. Side note, I was a stoner way back when ... did I drive stoned, OH YEAH, all the time, every place. Do I drive drunk? Seeing as how I drink less than once a month (on average) the answer is no. Based on my past, I see nothing good, no reason for recreational weed, medical is a totally different animal. So as someone who has been on both sides of the issue, I think it is a stupid idea and just don't think it's going to work out well.

What do you find stupid about it?

Why don’t you think it will work out well?

Patrick says

Actually, someone was telling me that the number of drunk driving accidents goes down the more that pot is legally available.

One explanation is that people tend to get stoned at home and so don't need to drive home from the bar. I suppose it's plausible.

Really??

People can't drink at home and need to go to the bar?

Here is a website https://weedmaps.com/