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Did we get all world idiots into legislative in CA? Fucking insane
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Who are they actually going to fine? The waiters themselves? This doesn't stand a chance in hell and seems like a ploy for said lawmaker to get some publicity. We all know the saying, there is no such thing as bad publicity.
Did we get all world idiots into legislative in CA?
a waiter who serves a drink with an unrequested straw in it would face up to 6 months in jail and a fine of up to $1,000
Ian Calderon you are the dumbest worthless FUCK on the complete planet earth, no wait universe!!! Your STUPID ASS NEEDS TO BE OUT OF OFFICE YOU WORTHLESS WASTE OF SPACE AND VALUABLE AIR YOU FUCK!!!!
"If people are forced not to use straws, then they won't necessarily see that it's for the environment," he tells Reason. "They'll just think it's just another inconvenience imposed on them by government."
The marketplace would do it's thing and bring back paper straws (biodegradable) even if they cost a penny more each.
How okay something that's environmentally unfriendly is, should be inversely proportional to how low the cost of a good alternative (substitute) is.
zzyzzx says"If people are forced not to use straws, then they won't necessarily see that it's for the environment," he tells Reason. "They'll just think it's just another inconvenience imposed on them by government."
The marketplace would do it's thing and bring back paper straws (biodegradable) even if they cost a penny more each.
I wonder though. If it's that legit of a concern, why not just use peer pressure like they did with styrofoam. Although that only partially worked. I'm sure one of the reasons the typical
Trumpeter prefers dunkin donuts coffee to starbucks is the styrofoam.
Sorry to let you guys know this, but even Dunkin donuts is guilty of falling prey to virue signalling (sometimes a good thing).
http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/07/news/companies/dunkin-styrofoam-cups/index.html
Marcus even you have to admit, fining waiters for straws is retarded and not a solution to anything,
What happens if the straw giver is an illegal-how will a liberal deal with that?
I'm sure one of the reasons the typical
Trumpeter prefers dunkin donuts coffee to starbucks is the styrofoam.
Al Gore is heavily invested in the biggest paper straw makers ?
Looks like In-n-Out has ditched paper straws and is back to dispensing plastic ones. Happened some time over the last month.
California Considers $1,000 Fine for Waiters Offering Unsolicited Plastic Straws
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Ian Calderon wants restaurateurs to think long and hard before giving you a straw.
Calderon, the Democratic majority leader in California's lower house, has introduced a bill to stop sit-down restaurants from offering customers straws with their beverages unless they specifically request one. Under Calderon's law, a waiter who serves a drink with an unrequested straw in it would face up to 6 months in jail and a fine of up to $1,000.
"We need to create awareness around the issue of one-time use plastic straws and its detrimental effects on our landfills, waterways, and oceans," Calderon explained in a press release.
This isn't just Calderon's crusade. The California cities of San Luis Obispo and Davis both passed straws-on-request laws last year, and Manhattan Beach maintains a prohibition on all disposable plastics. And up in Seattle, food service businesses won't be allowed to offer plastic straws or utensils as of July.
The Los Angeles Times has gotten behind the movement, endorsing straws-on-request policies in an editorial that also warned that "repetitive sucking may cause or exacerbate wrinkles on the lips or around the mouth." Celebrity astronomer Neil DeGrasse Tyson (always up for a little chiding) and Entourage star Adrian Grenier have appeared in videos where an octopus slaps them in the face for using a plastic straw.
The actual number of straws being used is unclear. Calderon, along with news outlets writing about this issue—from CNN to the San Francisco Chronicle—unfailingly state that Americans use 500 million plastic straws a day, many of them ending up in waterways and oceans. The 500 million figure is often attributed to the National Park Service; it in turn got it from the recycling company Eco-Cycle.
Eco-Cycle is unable to provide any data to back up this number, telling Reason that it was relying on the research of one Milo Cress. Cress—whose Be Straw Free Campaign is hosted on Eco-Cycle's website—tells Reason that he arrived at the 500 million straws a day figure from phone surveys he conducted of straw manufacturers in 2011, when he was just 9 years old.
Cress, who is now 16, says that the National Restaurant Association has endorsed his estimates in private correspondence. This may well be true, but the only references to the 500 million figure on the association's website again points back to the work done by Cress.
More important than how many straws Americans use each day is how many wind up in waterways. We don't know that figure either. The closest we have is the number of straws collected by the California Costal Commission during its annual Coastal Cleanup Day: a total of 835,425 straws and stirrers since 1988, or about 4.1 percent of debris collected.
Squishy moderates on the straw issue have pushed paper straws, which come compostable at only eight times the price. Eco-Cycle skews a bit more radical, with their "Be Straw Free" campaign—sponsored in part by reusable straw makers—that urges the adoption of glass or steel straws. Because we all know how good steel smelting is for the environment.
In any case, criminalizing unsolicited straws seems like a rather heavy-handed approach to the problem, especially since we don't actually know how big a problem it is. But don't take my word for that. Ask Milo Cress.
"If people are forced not to use straws, then they won't necessarily see that it's for the environment," he tells Reason. "They'll just think it's just another inconvenience imposed on them by government."