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2nd Amendment Discussion


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2018 Feb 17, 11:51am   260,287 views  1,326 comments

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With all the talk about the school shootings, let's take a look at what the 2nd Amendment actually says:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Couple things to note in there:

1. The specific mention of a militia being the reason for the need to bear arms.
2. The 2nd Amendment never mentions the word gun at all.

So, what exactly is the definition of "arms"?

In 1755 Dr. Johnson’s Dictionary of the English Language was first published. It defined “arms” as “weapons of offence, or armour of defence.”

Weapons of offence would seem to include pretty much anything and everything, from knives to nuclear weapons. The US has already seen fit to ban some weapons of offence so the 2nd Amendment clearly has not been interpreted strictly as meaning that the US cannot ban all "arms". Therefore, the 2nd Amendment does not guarantee citizens the right to own whatever weapons they choose.

So it then becomes a question of which weapons should be banned, which should be strictly regulated, and which should be lightly regulated or not at all. Like anything else, we should weigh an individual's right with society's right. When looked at in that manner, it becomes very difficult to justify why fully automatic or semi automatic rifles should be allowed. What purpose do they serve an individual? And why would that purpose outweigh the extreme damage those weapons have cased society??

Patrick thinks the Chamber of Commerce is the worst organization, and he may be correct, but the NRA is not far behind.



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300   HeadSet   2019 Mar 3, 6:53pm  

Except that health care is not currently a "right."
301   RWSGFY   2019 Mar 3, 7:09pm  

Booger says


#fuckingmorons
302   WillPowers   2019 Mar 4, 11:37pm  

ARM THE CITIZENRY WITH BATTLE NUKES AND TANKS!
310   suju   2019 Jul 5, 1:23am  

spam
312   deepcgi   2019 Jul 18, 2:09pm  

What “militia” may I join which is not the US military or local police? Those are not civilian. It does not say “gun club” or “wrist rocket association”. It is militia.

Rich celebrities and politicians can hire their own private weapon-bearing muscle. This amendment gives poor people the same right.

Any talk of gun control must provide the poor with the right to private defense - however they choose to fund it.

Or ban the rich from having private armed security.
315   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Aug 10, 4:44pm  

jazz_music says
Is there some relationship between hopelessness at not being able to meet basic needs and mass murder?


Mostly the Bitch cheated on me for the 20th Time, or Jamal is owed $10k by LaTyrone.
316   Booger   2019 Aug 24, 7:27am  

Never give up your guns. Ignore all gun laws passed by any Democrat. They ignore immigration laws, we ignore their gun laws. NEVER surrender your guns, but quit Democrat-owned social media sites.
317   Eric Holder   2019 Aug 24, 7:35am  

jazz_music says
Well-off people never seem to be shooting at crowds.


...except the Vegas shooter was a millionaire and owner of a shitload of real estate.
318   BayArea   2019 Aug 24, 7:41am  

You’re not taking the damn guns.
319   Shaman   2019 Aug 24, 7:51am  

Booger says
Never give up your guns. Ignore all gun laws passed by any Democrat. They ignore immigration laws, we ignore their gun laws. NEVER surrender your guns, but quit Democrat-owned social media sites.


Yes indeed. We need more sanctuary cities for gun owners.
320   RC2006   2019 Aug 24, 9:06am  

Liberals want to ban guns because their constituents do most the killing, look at every liberal ran city.
321   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2019 Aug 24, 9:33am  

Liberals can’t impose socialism on free armed people.
322   Onvacation   2019 Aug 24, 9:53am  

Eric Holder says
...except the Vegas shooter was a millionaire and owner of a shitload of real estate

Did they ever come up with a motive for that one?
323   RWSGFY   2019 Aug 24, 10:13am  

Onvacation says
Eric Holder says
...except the Vegas shooter was a millionaire and owner of a shitload of real estate

Did they ever come up with a motive for that one?


Did anybody explain the rifle magazine covfefe in NZ mosque shooting?
324   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Aug 24, 10:22am  

Leftists:

"The Penumbra of Privacy", a Supreme Court decision, clearly means that any and all abortions are legal and can never be legislated away.
The 2nd Amendment, part of the Constitution, and uncontroversial for the first 120 years, clearly means only black powder weapons, and only then with a background check and at the pleasure of the State or Local authorities who can refuse anyone for any reason, and must be stored in a National Guard Armory.
325   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2019 Aug 24, 4:25pm  

I downloaded the video. It looks real but no holes in the walls is odd when he sprays.

Iranian_Oil_Burse says
Onvacation says
Eric Holder says
...except the Vegas shooter was a millionaire and owner of a shitload of real estate

Did they ever come up with a motive for that one?


Did anybody explain the rifle magazine covfefe in NZ mosque shooting?
327   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2019 Aug 25, 8:58am  

Liberal fucks make movies about hunting us for sport and then try to take away my guns. They can fuck off!
332   Booger   2019 Sep 10, 5:32pm  

https://www.westernjournal.com/nj-magazine-ban-backfires-not-single-one-turned/

NJ Magazine Ban Backfires as Not a Single One Has Been Turned In

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