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Plot by boomers to dominate millennial women exposed


               
2018 Apr 26, 4:09pm   6,879 views  35 comments

by MisterLefty   follow (1)  

Millennials blame boomers for ruining their lives

Beset by big college loans, inheriting two wars, and facing an uncertain future of work, a majority of millennials say baby boomers have made things worse for them — and a lot of boomers agree, according to a new Axios/SurveyMonkey poll.

Why it matters: If it persists, the generational divide could turn into political rivalry as the generations compete for limited tax dollars — millennials seeking government help as automation takes hold, and boomers insisting on promised levels of Social Security and Medicare.

The poll found that 51% of millennials (18- to 34-year-olds) blame boomers (54- to 69-year-olds) for making things worse for their generation. Just 13% said boomers had improved things. Generation X wasn't pleased with the boomers, either.

Boomers were split on the issue: 30% said policies created by their generation had made things worse, 32% said they had made things better, and 34% that they had done neither.

Among suggested ways to improve matters now, millennials said:

"Remove all old government officials and term limits for the House and Congress," a 34-year-old male Republican said.
A number said "Impeach Trump" and "vote."
"Sleep more because you will be less sensitive to negative emotions," said a 22-year-old female Democrat.
In another generational divide, millennials are much less confident in their fiscal responsibility than their elders: 56% of millennials said they are "extremely" or "very" responsible in how they manage their money, compared with 80% of those 70 years old and more.

Methodology: This new Axios/SurveyMonkey online poll was conducted April 9-13 among 4,638 adults in the United States. The modeled error estimate is 2 percentage points. Data have been weighted for age, race, sex, education, and geography using the Census Bureau’s American Community Survey to reflect the demographic composition of the United States age 18 and over. Crosstabs available here.

https://www.axios.com/51-of-millennials-blame-boomers-1524592674-0d20667a-c9e5-4e30-a430-3957e325a0d0.html

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1   ForcedTQ   @   2018 Apr 26, 4:47pm  

BrrBrrBrrBrrBrr.......

The answer is simple. Go back to a part-time legislature with electronic presence. Don't allow these ass-clowns to make any more BS laws. Reduce. Revoke. Rescind.
2   Malcolm   @   2018 Apr 26, 4:51pm  

The Patrick site always had strong criticisms for boomers. It started with a thread called "Why is Gen Y so lame?" It backfired pretty badly. I remember some of it after all this time.
3   MrMagic   @   2018 Apr 26, 7:30pm  

Malcolm says
The Patrick site always had strong criticisms for boomers.


By the Special Snowflakes....

It's because the Snowflakes won't take personal responsibility for their screw-ups, so the only thing left is to blame mommy and daddy for not getting a trophy every week.
4   🎂 WookieMan   @   2018 Apr 26, 8:32pm  

So your dog takes a shit on your carpet. 100% the dogs fault. Nothing to do with the owner/trainer. Stunning logic. Talk about personal responsibility.

I didn't train my dog well enough to go the bathroom outside, but that fucking thing is just a "snowflake" because I suck at training it. Lol.
5   MrMagic   @   2018 Apr 26, 9:47pm  

MisterLefty says
The poll found that 51% of millennials (18- to 34-year-olds) blame boomers


WookieMan says
So your dog takes a shit on your carpet. 100% the dogs fault. Nothing to do with the owner/trainer.


Yep. because half of Millennials at 18, 25 or 34 (you know, adults) still don't know it's wrong to shit on the carpet and need to be told by mommy and daddy that it's wrong.

WookieMan says
Talk about personal responsibility.


You're learning. They don't have any.

WookieMan says
I didn't train my dog well enough to go the bathroom outside


Actually that's an insult to dogs. Most dogs are way smarter and more intelligent than the majority of Millennials walking the street today. By six months old, a dog has got most things figured out. At 34, most Millennials can't find their asses with both hands. But remember, that's the Boomer's fault.... If they just got one more trophy.....

WookieMan says
Stunning logic.


What is something NEVER seen displayed by a Millennial?

WookieMan says
Stunning logic.
6   🎂 WookieMan   @   2018 Apr 26, 10:15pm  

Sniper says
Actually that's an insult to dogs. Most dogs are way smarter and more intelligent than the majority of Millennials walking the street today. By six months old, a dog has got most things figured out. At 34, most Millennials can't find their asses with both hands. But remember, that's the Boomer's fault.... If they just got one more trophy.....


Ha! Seriously? Hope this is sarcasm. Never thought I'd see anyone in my lifetime claim dogs are smarter than a human, but I guess there's a first time for everything. Now that you mention it, maybe you're right about dogs being smarter than a human in the case of this quote....

Sniper says
What is something NEVER seen displayed by a Millennial?

WookieMan says
Stunning logic.


Lol. So you must be the "special" boomer that taught your millennial children the right way, right? Or you're saying your kids don't have logic? It's one or the other. I think all of us here know which it is.

Sniper says
WookieMan says
Talk about personal responsibility.


You're learning. They don't have any.


You're funny tonight. Hey, if you want to bash your "successful" kids, more power to you. You won't hear me complaining about the truth. Someone had to raise 'em. Lol.

EVERY GENERATION HAS DEADBEATS AND SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE. Idiots gotta stop being idiots.
7   clambo   @   2018 Apr 27, 5:09am  

Blaming others is nothing new. We boomers blamed old men politicians for drafting us into going to Vietnam for example.

What is very interesting to me is my boomer friends and I were not spoiled by our parents, and never got driven around or given big allowances to go places with friends. By contrast, ALL of my boomer friends have spoiled their "millennial kids, while exerting more control over them than their parents did.

I suggest boomer parents created the problem by trying to solve their kids' problems for too long, then the little dears never actually grow up and they blame others.

The difficulty for young people today is derived by the growth of government and growth of foreign worker population. Wages would have risen had millions of workers not been imported.
8   🎂 WookieMan   @   2018 Apr 27, 6:49am  

clambo says
I suggest boomer parents created the problem by trying to solve their kids' problems for too long, then the little dears never actually grow up and they blame others.


I agree a problem was created. It's still up to the person though to figure their shit out and not blame others (older or younger - which is what you're saying). Ultimately millennials will figure it out, as every generation does. I know of very few 31-34 year olds that don't already have houses, some have kids, some have their own businesses, etc. Most by that age have figured it out. So I admittedly get a little testy (triggered I guess since I'm millennial) on the subject when millennials are called "snowflakes" when most the 31-34 year olds I know are all on track to retire by the time they hit 59-1/2. All things considered, I'd say that's doing pretty darn well.

You also kind of have to figure it out, because by 30ish the parents are in the dreaded 55-65 year range where they start dropping like flies and can't help the kids out any more. I'm too lazy to find the link (millennial, I know), but I've posted it in other threads here. Something like 25% of boomers don't have any savings for retirement and I recall it's something like 50% or slightly more don't even have 3 years worth of retirement to live off of.

Millennials have less saved now of course, but the oldest millennials have at least 25 years to still save and earn. From what I've read, the upper percentage (say top 30% of millennials) are saving for retirement at a better rate compared to their parents. Either way, most millennials won't even be able to think about an inheritance of anything from their parent (which you shouldn't plan for it anyway). Probably just a massive house that is leveraged to the moon.

So at some point the gravy train ends and you're forced to sink or swim when the parents start dying and leaving highly leveraged assets to their kids. I just think a lot of people ingest garbage media most the time and it totally fucks up their world view. Sometimes people need to get out from behind the computer, learn and see new things. Most millennials aren't whiney bitches and do quite well.

I actually never thought about this. I personally know more millennials that are millionaires (self made) compared to the boomers millionaires (self made) that I know. Anecdotal and doesn't prove anything, but interesting.
9   MrMagic   @   2018 Apr 27, 7:20am  

WookieMan says
I know of very few 31-34 year olds that don't already have houses, some have kids, some have their own businesses, etc.


WookieMan says
Most millennials aren't whiney bitches and do quite well.


You truly need to get out and away from your self imposed bubble.

WookieMan says
Anecdotal and doesn't prove anything,


Exactly, ancedotal based on a few examples, is NOT a trend.
10   MrMagic   @   2018 Apr 27, 7:24am  

WookieMan says
So you must be the "special" boomer that taught your millennial children the right way, right?


Yes, I'm a rarity.

WookieMan says
Never thought I'd see anyone in my lifetime claim dogs are smarter than a human, but I guess there's a first time for everything.


Once again, you truly need to get out more into the real world. I have seen a bunch of dogs that can run circles in intelligence and ability around many humans.

WookieMan says
Idiots gotta stop being idiots.


Many post here regularly on Patnet.
11   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   @   2018 Apr 27, 7:28am  

WookieMan says
So your dog takes a shit on your carpet. 100% the dogs fault. Nothing to do with the owner/trainer. Stunning logic. Talk about personal responsibility.

I didn't train my dog well enough to go the bathroom outside, but that fucking thing is just a "snowflake" because I suck at training it. Lol.


LOL. I thought the same thing.

Fact is, there's truth to both sides.
12   🎂 WookieMan   @   2018 Apr 27, 7:29am  

Sniper says
You truly need to get out and away from your self imposed bubble.


You've said you're retired, right? What do you actually do now? Even in the past, where have you traveled, what have you done that make you think you're not in your own bubble? Serious question.
13   🎂 WookieMan   @   2018 Apr 27, 7:33am  

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
Fact is, there's truth to both sides.


Of course. This isn't a binary, millennials suck or boomers rock situation. Many in BOTH generations suck which I believe is what you're saying.

Pareto principle is all I'll say about generations.
14   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   @   2018 Apr 27, 7:48am  

WookieMan says
Many in BOTH generations suck which I believe is what you're saying.

While that is true, I was simply pointing out that there is truth in the Millenial gripe that Boomers had economic winds at their backs over many years, and they still managed to collectively drive up massive government debt while borrowing from SS payments, which is incredibly selfish, IMO. Meanwhile, millenials (as a whole) were raised expecting too much to be handed to them in the world. Obviously, there is a wide range of individuals within each group. I believe that millenials will collectively tell their boomer parents to fuck off at some point. They just haven't been early bloomers for a variety of reasons.
As a genXer, I have no dog in this fight. Both generations have their positive attributes. I'm not one to blame a bunch of our problems on the faults of whole generations. There are lessons to be learned from observing characteristics of how our society has evolved and setting personal behavior accordingly, though.
15   🎂 WookieMan   @   2018 Apr 27, 8:03am  

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
As a genXer, I have no dog in this fight. Both generations have their positive attributes. I'm not one to blame a bunch of our problems on the faults of whole generations. There are lessons to be learned from observing characteristics of how our society has evolved and setting personal behavior accordingly, though.


Technically since there's no definitive years given (or consensus at least), I'm on the cusp of GenX and Millennial. 34 about to be 35. So most Millennials I know have grown up and are doing the grown up things. I agree though that problems can't be blamed on an arbitrarily made up age group. I do find that feeling more superior due to demographics, specifically age, is a rather unintelligent point of view though, and will call it out when I see it.

The good news for me, I can bounce between Millennial and X and throw around all the blame I want ;) It will never be my fault. God, that's so Millennial of me, lol.
16   MrMagic   @   2018 Apr 27, 8:33am  

WookieMan says
I do find that feeling more superior due to demographics, specifically age, is a rather unintelligent point of view though, and will call it out when I see it.


This is just plain ignorance talking...

Being superior is due to life experiences, not age. Interacting with thousands and thousands of other people, being involved in many economic and business situations, traveling to many different areas, being on the planet decades longer, dealing with tons of different life experiences that Millennials are clueless about and have never seen, etc, etc. etc.. That's what makes someone superior.

Unfortunately, this isn't the first time I've dealt with a Millennial who thinks they are experts on every subject matter on the planet.

17   MrMagic   @   2018 Apr 27, 8:35am  

WookieMan says
You've said you're retired, right? What do you actually do now?


I do what ever I want, when I want to do it. I've earned that right.

How's that?

WookieMan says
Even in the past, where have you traveled, what have you done that make you think you're not in your own bubble? Serious question.


See my post above.
18   🎂 WookieMan   @   2018 Apr 27, 9:04am  

Sniper says
I do what ever I want, when I want to do it. I've earned that right.

How's that?


Sniper says
Being superior is due to life experiences, not age. Interacting with thousands and thousands of other people, being involved in many economic and business situations, traveling to many different areas, being on the planet decades longer, dealing with tons of different life experiences that Millennials are clueless about and have never seen, etc, etc. etc.. That's what makes someone superior.


Lol. So you do nothing and sit behind a keyboard all day and pretend like you've accomplished something. Thanks for the non-answer. Let's keep it domestic and basic for you. How many states have you visited in the US? Just a number Mr. Life Experience. (This won't get answered, but oh well)

Listen, the fact is you're here EVERY day. You're entitled to do whatever you want to do. But successful people, even if it interests them, don't sit on a random forum on the web all day every day. Hell, Patrick isn't here everyday probably. I've probably not logged into this site for a month at a minimum so far this year. You can't say the same.

So you can talk about having "life experiences" but all I ever see from you is canned, generic answers. That's all we've all seen here. "I did business in the medical field" blah blah blah. You can't even answer the question about what you actually do now. Because it's nothing. Shit, can you even describe in minor detail the last vacation you went on?

And don't worry, I know what's coming. You'll selectively take certain segments of my comment and write childish one line responses because you've probably been behind the computer too long and have zero idea what real conversation is about. Won't actually answer a question. But hey, you're superior, just because of your vast business dealings only itemizing $15k in a year. Lol.

And I know I'm crossing the line on forum rules in this comment (all of it), but fuck it. This is what someone here at Patnet thought would be an intelligent comment to make and they believe that it's actually intelligent, that's the scary part:

Sniper says
By the Special Snowflakes....

It's because the Snowflakes won't take personal responsibility for their screw-ups, so the only thing left is to blame mommy and daddy for not getting a trophy every week.


You can call me a snowflake and anyone else you want to, but I know I'm better then you and that tears your soft little brain apart.
19   Heraclitusstudent   @   2018 Apr 27, 9:06am  

Housing is ground zero of the generation battle, and the snowflakes are starting to organize to get out of boomers oppression.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/04/26/seattle-housing-what-works-next-218058

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