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f you don't actually believe the science is settled relating to human caused climate change, then it is you who are trolling by asserting that we are all ignorant and wrong about something that you are apparently open to because you say the science for part of it is settled but you aren't so sure about the rest of it.
Nope. I don't think you read very carefully. The science of the greenhouse effect is settled. It was discovered in the early 1800s and proven in mid 1800s, completely unrelated to and prior to any discussion of the Earth warming. That is not a model.
Sorry, but you have just precisely rephrased my point. You are just wanting to alarm for no actual reason. That is precisely what an alarmist is.
I think you're confusing things. Science is settled on CO2's effect in the atmosphere. The models are obviously just that--models.
Nope. I don't think you read very carefully. The science of the greenhouse effect is settled. It was discovered in the early 1800s and proven in mid 1800s, completely unrelated to and prior to any discussion of the Earth warming. That is not a model.
asserting that we are all ignorant and wrong about something that you are apparently open to because you say the science for part of it is settled but you aren't so sure about the rest of it. The problem there is that the rest of it is the point of the discussion. The atmosphere obviously holds in heat like a blanket. The effect of CO2 is not understood, ergo bad model result, and more likely it is the amount of water vapor and clouds that determines how much heat is trapped.
Could you please point out where I'm alarming? Pointing out the existence of the greenhouse effect discovered in the 1820s is alarming?
LeonDurham saysThe only thing that can argued is how self correcting the Earth's ecosystem is. Maybe it will self correct and stop the temperature rise. But, the consequences are so dire if not, is it really something we want to leave up to chance?
Just preserving this...
Rather than objectively reevaluating and actually learning something, the religious mindset takes over and the desired result becomes a goal to prove instead of a theory to test.
You are basically saying that the existence of gravity isn't "settled science" because one cannot precisely predict where a feather will land when dropped outside.
Is there a law of co2 planet heating?
Is it a coincidence that many alarmists are atheists that badly need to believe in something?
The fact that you consider something unproven and fairly uncertain to be proven science just proves that you neither understand what science is, nor are humble enough to admit your ignorance.
The fact that you consider something unproven and fairly uncertain to be proven science just proves that you neither understand what science is, nor are humble enough to admit your ignorance.
The fact that one considers something unproven and fairly uncertain to be proven science just proves that they neither understand what science is, nor are humble enough to admit their ignorance.
better?
The fact is that earth is not warming uncontrollably, the arctic is not melting faster than ever, and the ocean level is not rising to flood Manhattan and Florida. Anyone that tells you it is, is ignorant or trying to scam you
I'm not sure about the melting rate at the arctic,
he melting between decades is much less than the melting between seasons. Unless you mistake the seasonal variations as an iwogian asymptote to hell!
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/
#3-- The ice in Antarctica is melting faster than modeled.
Then why is Florida still above sea level?
Onvacation saysThen why is Florida still above sea level?
Can you show me the model that predicted Florida would be under water in 2018?
Arctic ice levels are at their 10th lowest levels
2018 is promising to be the 6th warmest year since we have been keeping record!
I just can't figure out why it gets hot every Summer. Maybe one of the GW Alarmists can explain.
was the 11th hottest July on record, tied with 1998.
NOAA's temperature numbera are out for July 2018. It was the 11th hottest July on record, tied with 1998.
AGW may or may not be real, but the same steps to abate pollution and resource depletion would also abate AGW.
HeadSet saysAGW may or may not be real, but the same steps to abate pollution and resource depletion would also abate AGW.
R u sure about that? The push for diesel passenger cars in Europe under the AGW abatement agenda has worsened local pollution, for example.
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The average global temperature dropped by more than half a degree Celsius from February 2016 to February 2018, according to recent NASA data.
Read Newsmax: NASA Data: Earth Cooled by Half a Degree Celsius From '16-'18