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Even in socialist France, those aren’t going over well. There’s a little movement you may have heard of which got the environmental gas tax rolled back: Gillets Jaunes?
That’s a logical fallacy.
Even if a person doesn’t believe in someone else’s problem, they might agree to a compromised “solution” if that solution seemed reasonable.
MisterLearnToCode saysSure isn't.
And the solution is obvious and cheap: solar panels costs have shrunk 99% since 1975.
They will be the cheaper than coal by 2021.
Heraclitusstudent saysAnd the solution is obvious and cheap: solar panels costs have shrunk 99% since 1975.
They will be the cheaper than coal by 2021.
Yes, and we did it without cap and trade or participation in a global scheme to pay developing nations to spew coal smoke. The solution was technology, more of it, not a return to some fabled agrarian lifestyle where nobody flies or has a personal vehicle.
The USA leads the entire world in carbon emission REDUCTIONS, reducing it 25% in only the past five years. That didn’t happen because of environmentalists harassing us to sit in a corner and quietly mold. It happened because technology offered solutions that were better than what we were using and people understood the benefit to using more energy efficient devices.
We're still in in the end of a local maximum irradiance phase, a maunder minimum would certainly bring a new ice age with it. If you use these relatively small deviations to prove or disprove cause then the whole globull warming theory is trash because we have had decades and centuries of much much higher CO2 concentration with much lower temperatures. Can't have it both ways. Surely irradiance is not the only factor but I assert it's a much bigger (if not the defining) factor of global temperatures of all factors we currently know. CO2 is insignificant in comparison.
mell saysWe're still in in the end of a local maximum irradiance phase, a maunder minimum would certainly bring a new ice age with it. If you use these relatively small deviations to prove or disprove cause then the whole globull warming theory is trash because we have had decades and centuries of much much higher CO2 concentration with much lower temperatures. Can't have it both ways. Surely irradiance is not the only factor but I assert it's a much bigger (if not the defining) factor of global temperatures of all factors we currently know. CO2 is insignificant in comparison.
The fact that the current warming is not due to the sun is absolutely incontrovertible.
For example: if it was due to the sun, why would temperature increase faster in the polar regions (like we are seeing now) rather than the opposite?
There are many factors but maunder minimums and ice ages are correlated that is accepted science. If it were CO2 then it should have been much warmer during those periods with much higher CO2 concentration than today. This has nothing to do with arrogance and there are plenty of scientists that are highly critical of GW yet they are derided as being bought by the fossil fuel industry although the majority of the money these days is clearly on the pro GW side.
You can't explain that, and more generally your "GW is trash" statement is pure arrogance and puts people in the idiots box way too fast.
I'm fairly certain all "gilets jaunes" are in favor of fighting global warming.
The fact that the current warming is not due to the sun is absolutely incontrovertible.
And the solution is obvious and cheap: solar panels costs have shrunk 99% since 1975.
They will be the cheaper than coal by 2021.
The fact that the current warming is not due to the sun is absolutely incontrovertible.
For example: if it was due to the sun, why would temperature increase faster in the polar regions (like we are seeing now) rather than the opposite? You know... these regions that don't see the sun for 6 months/year. Still get warmer than they used to be.
For example: if it was due to the sun, why would temperature increase faster in the polar regions (like we are seeing now) rather than the opposite? You know... these regions that don't see the sun for 6 months/year. Still get warmer than they used to be.
You can't explain that, and more generally your "GW is trash" statement is pure arrogance and puts people in the idiots box way too fast.
Quants made the same mistake w the housing crises. Scientists/mathematicians/programmers are quite bad at being humble.
And the solution is obvious and cheap: solar panels costs have shrunk 99% since 1975.
Same with Black-Shoales producing bizarre results during the 1996 Asian Crisis.
The fact that the current warming
Heraclitusstudent saysThe fact that the current warming
Can we have some more of that current warming? Because I’ve been freezing in LA all year.
Heraclitusstudent saysAnd the solution is obvious and cheap: solar panels costs have shrunk 99% since 1975.
How do you store the power?
Batteries are insufficient and extremely polluting to produce, and non-renewable.
This is what I have heard over and over and over coming from the right.
Source? There are VERY few data points of polar temperature sampling.
How do you store the power?
Batteries are insufficient and extremely polluting to produce, and non-renewable.
MisterLearnToCode says
How do you store the power?
Batteries are insufficient and extremely polluting to produce, and non-renewable.
Batteries will see huge price drops and more innovations will happen.
CBOEtrader saysSource? There are VERY few data points of polar temperature sampling.
Really?
https://nsidc.org/data/search/#keywords=sea+ice/sortKeys=score,,desc/facetFilters=%257B%257D/pageNumber=1/itemsPerPage=25
https://nsidc.org/data/search/#keywords=ice+sheets/sortKeys=score,,desc/facetFilters=%257B%257D/pageNumber=1/itemsPerPage=25
For laymans' terms explanation, check out this article:
https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-how-do-scientists-measure-global-temperature
So fuck off with science.
Global warming is a lie! it's the Commies who want to destroy the world.
2016 was a record hot year.
I love ignorant fuckwits who try to comment on stuff they nothing about.
Claiming that science is a leftist conspiracy.
ignorance or stupidity. It's not a religious debate.
The pure arrogance is in pretending we know enough to model climate changes into future decades, despite the lack of empirical support of the deeply flawed models.
So... If you are a true believer make your prediction. Post a disaster and a date.
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