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This is a great move, it might not be optimal but it shuts the Liberals up regardless.

Either the Liberals rubber stamp it, and lose much of their Resist Mojo, or they don't and still lose much of their Resist Mojo.
Either way Trump siphons off voters from the Liberals over this bold move.

Doesn't matter if it is Trump that personally makes this happen they will all end up being democrats and still hate him. We did this in the 80s and it just made things worse. Creating 2 million more people that will want to bring their poor and uneducated families that we cant support over would be a disaster.

RC2006 says

Creating 2 million more people that will want to bring their poor and uneducated families that we cant support over would be a disaster.

But Trump will be able to expel 11 million illegals that are here unlawfully. While Sessions is prosecuting people who hire them. Plus Trump will be getting his Wall.

A few million illegals wont matter if Trump would the right thing and build about 20 more Cities out in the middle of nowhere. For you Choo Choo Train dreamers that would actually create a viable reason for a train, with many populated stops between routes, would be the best ROI for bullet trains and hyperloops.

RC2006 says

Doesn't matter if it is Trump that personally makes this happen they will all end up being democrats and still hate him. We did this in the 80s and it just made things worse. Creating 2 million more people that will want to bring their poor and uneducated families that we cant support over would be a disaster.

Very well put.

#noamnesty

Tenpoundbass says

Trump slated to be the Amnesty DACA hero, if the Democrats in the house will LET him.

What is stopping him? Reps have 42 seat majority, dems can stop nothing. You didn't know the reps were the majority the last 8 years? It's important to keep up on curent events you know.

Tenpoundbass says

While Sessions is prosecuting people who hire them.

When is that going to start? There have been 9 indictments for hiring illegals since trump took office. Leading to the severe punishment of having to pay what was owed in back wages. I'm sure their wrists are still sore. MAGA.

Looks like the Democrats in the House didn't want to pass it.

Tenpoundbass says

Looks like the Democrats in the House didn't want to pass it.

earth to tpb, how can they stop it? They are the minority party. Just saying something a lot doesn't make it true.

bob2356 says

earth to tpb, how can they stop it? They are the minority party.

Did they vote for it Yes or No?

Well well WELL...

Sez here!
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/394437-house-rejects-second-gop-immigration-bill

The House rejected a Republican compromise bill on immigration Wednesday in a worse-than-expected 121-300 vote, effectively ending a months-long GOP drama that had put the conference’s internal politics on display.

The measure won far fewer GOP votes than a more hard-line measure rejected last week in a 193-231 vote.

Only 121 Republicans backed it, compared to 193 for the earlier measure. Two Republicans did not cast votes on Wednesday, while 112 Republicans voted against it.

That would mean only 62 Democrats supported their own fucking cause. People are being thrown out of Restaurants, Movie theaters, Idiots are camping outside Official's houses. The whole time moaning and bitch about a cause They can't even be fucking bothered with Voting For.

Keep up the Hype you pathetic retarded Liberal douche bags, not you of course. Just your party and the whole demented philosophy they shove down your gullible throat.
I mean You're the Victim here let's be clear about that now. You poor thing!

Wait! I beg your pardon, NO LIBERALS voted on this one after the week long of uncivil nonsense they put this once great nation though.

The last bill only 62 Libs supported. This could have been a done deal several times but the Liberals are just disingenuous cork soakers.

That will be dully noted during the height of the campaign midterm season.

This is 80s amnesty all over again. Until they go after every employer and deport most of the illegal here I could care less about DACA, enough with the bullshit I want to see major actions and results before I see any concessions of any sort. If Trump was to do anything for DACA without the other items being handled first he will be finished, this is not like all the other BS that liberals come up with every month. I feel sorry for young kids that are brought here by their parents illegally but enough is enough where do you draw the line they have destroyed whole school districts, lets start caring about american children that are getting screwed over by this nonsense. Yes we may have paid for their education but lets cut our losses, they should be thankful for all they have gotten from US tax payers and mexico should be happy they didn't have to spend a dime on them and are getting them back.

RC2006 says

This is 80s amnesty all over again.

Calm down Trump was just calling the Liberals out, they don't actually want do anything about DACA. Trump tried to take their own Hail Marry from them and the Libs Chokes. Not one Liberal stood on record supporting fixing DACA. We're safe from Obama's invaders for now. Even the Liberals don't have the conviction to really impose them their voting record.

What is stopping him? Reps have 42 seat majority, dems can stop nothing.

Bob, this is more of an insider vs outsider. Both Repubs and Dems want the free flow of illegals (as do their donors). I would not be surprised if some of the Repubs who voted "yea" only did so after consulting with other Repubs who would vote "nay" and confirmed that their "yea" vote would not matter. To get a real solution that would involve E-Verify and real penalties for employing illegals, these insiders will have to be replaced. Outsider Trump has resistance form insiders (from either party) when it comes to actually stopping the illegals.

Tenpoundbass says

bob2356 says

earth to tpb, how can they stop it? They are the minority party.

Did they vote for it Yes or No?

Did republicans vote for it yes or no. Google majority party and read how it all works or read your own posts, the part where 112 republicans voted against. Wan to take another try? Who is holding up the bill?

HeadSet says

To get a real solution that would involve E-Verify and real penalties for employing illegals, these insiders will have to be replaced. Outsider Trump has resistance form insiders (from either party) when it comes to actually stopping the illegals.

You contradicted yourself. Trump has the power and has totally failed to use it. ICE and the justice department are both in the executive branch. Prosecution of employers could have been done from day 1. Penalties strong enough to actually discourage hiring of illegals via regulation or EO added on top of 8 USC § 1324a penalties could have been implemented from day 1.

Nothing has happened at all on the employer side unless you count 9 7/11 owners being prosecuted for hiring illegals since the election. Trump has no interest in getting the illegals out of the country. Trump is intersted in making a lot of noise and creating a great show for the base. It's all reality TV for the sheeple. As long as there are jobs illegals will get in and do them.