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The attempts keep getting cooped by the very people they are trying to compete against.
I'm sure the NSA has played a large role in that. Hopefully with Trump he wont allow this project to fail.

Tenpoundbass says

Hopefully with Trump he wont allow this project to fail. will allow the marketplace to determine the value and success of a product.

FTFY

Evan F. says

FTFY

This was way different and you know it.
https://www.datamation.com/open-source/why-the-ubuntu-phone-failed.html

Just look at the article on why it failed. An obvious spin of the reality. There was a huge massive audience of eager early adapters that expected to get a phone that was sent back to the Android Froyo or even Donut flavor as far as limited features compared to now. At least for the first few generations of it.

The reality is it never made it to market to be tested. It was neutered and shelved long before any were available. There was some beta preview that was never even fulfilled IRC, there was deep pocket interests that squashed the project.
That whole why the Ubuntu failed surrounding it's lack of full features compared to Android or Apple is laughable as the biggest features it would lack are the very reasons it was so desirable in the first place. Also the Mobil Phone stores are full of phones that are not Android or Apple and out number those models 10 to 1 at least.
There's still a market for Chicklett and Flip Phones though many carriers like MPCS and BOOST have stopped carrying them, I'm sure for many of the same reasons the Ubuntu phone was shelved.
I mean Google can only admit they track you regardless if you turn it on or off, and Facebook can only admit they are politically biased, if they are confident in their efforts to kill off any real competition.

I'm confident Trump is going to put his big ass Orange foot up that Monopoly Ass!

It will be in all the History books when they talk about the greatest American President.

Tenpoundbass says

there was deep pocket interests that squashed the project.

care to elaborate?

Evan F. says

Tenpoundbass says

there was deep pocket interests that squashed the project.

care to elaborate?

Sure, Apple and Google are rumored to cut off contracts with manufacturers who dare to supply competitors as well, and especially for manufacturers who supply such disruptive trends as Open Source phones. I can't prove it, but have run across this a few times.

In addition, there is the natural reluctance of key suppliers to completely document their chips for the public, thus hindering the creation of Open Source drivers. It's natural because a completely documented chip would open them up to competition and cut into profits, and would of course kill sales of drivers for their chips.

Evan F. says

Tenpoundbass says

there was deep pocket interests that squashed the project.

care to elaborate?

You mean you want me to explain the NSA and Google's cozy relationship that spies on the American smart phone users, and Apples willingness to put the Google Trojan on the apple phones. It's apple for fuck sakes they could have made a decent mapping system if they wanted to. They were probably given a few hundred million to forget about apple services which the NSA didn't want to spend money to tap into, to go for all of the Google services that allows the NSA to keep tabs on Apple users as well.

Patrick says

The Librem 5 phone will be the world’s first ever IP-native mobile handset, using end-to-end encrypted decentralized communication.

Is the company called Pied Piper?

I'm flattered by my phone, since nobody else thinks I am interesting enough to spy on.

NuttBoxer says

Patrick says

The Librem 5 phone will be the world’s first ever IP-native mobile handset, using end-to-end encrypted decentralized communication.

Is the company called Pied Piper?

They're just trying to make the world a better place.

In fact, you could build a much better phone by including long lost features from the old PDAs. There is no substitute for the old app NoviiRemote, for example; most phones don't even have the necessary IR emitters and sensors, and the few that do (mainly LG) have secret drivers and terrible apps. The same goes for FM radio: most phones can do it, but carriers insist on disabling the hardware in order to sell unlimited streaming, so they can monitor what you watch and listen to; LG has FM radio on some models, but proprietary drivers and terrible software. Now that most phone cameras filter out infrared, it would make sense to add an infrared camera for FLIR and temperature sensing. The mobile phone platform has enormous potential, but the current paradigm is based on Apple's walled garden, to maximize revenue.

Patrick says

Google...cut off...Open Source phones.

[If I edited too much, please feel free to correct or delete.]

Firefox OS ran into that problem. Prior to Chrome browser, Google had funded Firefox, for several reasons. Google was trying to get more people online, reduce the dominance of MSFT, etc. Firefox tried to make an OS for smartphones. Firefox OS was basically excluded from the USA market, so it could not compete with Apple and Google. By that time, Google had launched Chrome OS and Chrome browser, so Google cut funding to Mozilla.

Instead, Firefox OS ran only on cheap phones, mostly in India. Worse, Brendan Eich made Firefox OS into a JavaScript delivery vehicle. At the time, the #1 add-on for Firefox browser was NoScript, which exists solely to block JavaScript. Ars Technica wrote that JavaScript made cheap phones unusable (and cross-scripting raises inherent security issues), but Firefox OS had no way to disable JavaScript. As Ars Technica noted, you don't really need JavaScript all the time, nor even at all, so the inability to disable it was needlessly crippling the phones.

Here is where we have disagreed in the past. People from Mozilla (including board members) said there was a difference of opinion about the technology and thus the future direction of the company. Mobile was already becoming huge, as people switched from desktop to mobile. If Firefox OS had allowed disabling JavaScript, those cheap phones could have worked well enough to compete. You have insisted the "only" reason Brendan Eich got fired was because he supported Prop H8, and I can acknowledge that is one reason and it motivated many Mozilla volunteers and partners to complain and some sites asked people to stop using Firefox. You have not yet acknowledged there was also a technical reason, specifically the decision to reduce Firefox OS to a JavaScript delivery vehicle that would not work on the mobile phones that Mozilla was limited to using. The board members who resigned when Eich became CEO, and those who accepted Eich's resignation, cited those reasons. I do also think Eich was wrong about Prop H8 and mishandled the issue as a CEO, but that is beside the point: his insistence on JavaScript messed up Firefox OS so badly that it wouldn't run.

As Ars Technica reported, you can build/buy/sell a phone better than the original iPhone for a really low cost if you can put a viable OS on it. There is a big market for that, since most people don't need nor even necessarily want most of the stuff going into phones now.

My cell phone definitely doesn't spy on me.



But, I do have some issues trying to post to Patnet on it.

Devkits ship.

https://www.slashgear.com/purism-librem-5-dev-kits-ship-bodes-well-for-linux-phone-20558700/

https://puri.sm/posts/the-simplicity-of-making-librem-5-apps/

Getting started with developing applications for a mobile platform can be a challenging task, especially when it comes to building and testing the application on the mobile device itself.

The Librem 5 makes its application development workflow extremely simple.

You don’t need to worry about registering a developer account with some parent company.
You don’t need to register your testing devices and ask the permission to a parent company just to be able to build and run your applications on those devices.
You don’t need to “Jailbreak” your devices in order to access some restricted software or hardware features.
And the best part is that you don’t need to worry about cross platform compiling because you can use the development tools directly on the phone.
The “quick start” video below that I made for the Librem 5 developers documentation demonstrates how quickly you can get up and running with making your own GTK applications on a Librem 5.

In this video, I have attached a Librem 5 to an external keyboard, mouse and monitor through a USB-C hub, and I use GNOME Builder to quickly create a new GTK application project, build it and run it on both the big desktop monitor and the small mobile screen with just a drag and drop across the screens.

Yes, I do all that with the computing power of the Librem 5 only! There are no special effects nor a hidden desktop computer. I even did the screencast recording with an external device so it shows the real speed of the Librem 5 when driving a 32″ Full HD monitor.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/gopublic/tattleware-privacy-employment-1.5978337

School custodian refuses to download phone app that monitors location, says it got her fired

Increase in 'tattleware' a slippery slope for loss of workers’ privacy, employment lawyer warns ...

When her boss told her to download the app, Dionne says she was concerned about her privacy. The app would go on her personal phone and, she says, her boss didn't clearly explain how it worked or what would happen to any data it collected.

"It was just a blanket statement — 'Everybody install this app on their phone. This is how we're doing things from now on,'" said Dionne. ...

"We are giving away a lot of our privacy rights without even realizing what we're giving up," she said. "Before it's too late and we go down some slippery slope, it's time that we looked at this."

Dionne says it was a blow to be fired, but the experience has a silver lining.

She now wants to learn how to help other employees who feel they weren't treated right, either.

"I'm going back to school," said Dionne. "I'm thinking of going into law."

Patrick says

'Everybody install this app on their phone. This is how we're doing things from now on,'

I have some old phones lying in the garage. That app would go on one of these. The phone would stay where it is now.