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A phone which does not spy on you


               
2018 Aug 19, 10:49am   56,346 views  346 comments

by Patrick   follow (60)  

https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/

Librem 5, the phone that focuses on security by design and privacy protection by default. Running Free/Libre and Open Source software and a GNU+Linux Operating System designed to create an open development utopia, rather than the walled gardens from all other phone providers.

A fully standards-based freedom-oriented system, based on Debian and many other upstream projects, has never been done before–we will be the first to seriously attempt this.

The Librem 5 phone will be the world’s first ever IP-native mobile handset, using end-to-end encrypted decentralized communication.


Many others have attempted Open Source phones and failed. I hope this one works, especially since I just discovered that you cannot turn off wifi or Bluetooth on Android or iOS. "Turning it off" in the controls on those phones merely disconnects you from current access points, but leaves them on so they can spy on your location with great precision and open you up to various exploits:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/21/ios-11-apple-toggling-wifi-bluetooth-control-centre-doesnt-turn-them-off

On iOS 11, pressing the wifi toggle immediately disconnects the iPhone or iPad from any wifi networks, but leaves the wireless radio available for use by location services, scanning for the names of nearby wifi access points. The Bluetooth toggle operates in a similar fashion. ...

A similar thing happens in Android smartphones, which use wifi as part of their location services. Switching wifi off prevents it from connecting to wifi access points, but allows it to continue periodically scanning for access point names to help pinpoint its location.




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290   richwicks   2024 Apr 23, 7:26pm  

HeadSet says

The future of the internet in many areas will be from cell towers.


Possibly. We use QAM for data transmission, and we're beyond where I thought we could go, and there's shaped wave forms, it's impossible to tell.

I can tell you this, if we do move to a society that only accesses the internet through cell technology, you'll be behind a NAT and you will be dependent on a 3rd party to connect to anybody. You will have to go through some sort of authority for EVERYTHING, every communication. If we go there, freedom of speech is dead.

I have my own website on my own computer, sitting away from me 2 feet away. I can't lose it because of a 3rd party says they won't host it. I have 100% control over this. That will go away if I'm placed behind a NAT router I cannot control.
292   Patrick   2024 Jun 13, 4:18pm  

Just ran across this. I have no affiliation with them and get no money for posting it. But I approve of it.


295   WookieMan   2024 Jun 19, 6:12am  

Patrick says





Are they still doing this out there in CA? I haven't seen it since roughly the end of 2022 and that was only at airports. I actually don't mind it. Having to print updated menus as items change is kind of a bitch, especially for non-chain restaurants. Passes costs down to the customer.

But I do get it's one more layer of tracking. I'm clearly indifferent on it. If I know a place has slow service, sometimes being able to put in the order directly to the kitchen is better. Especially flying as they're notoriously slow and black service wise.
296   GreaterNYCDude   2024 Jun 19, 6:39am  

richwicks says

The_Deplorable says







This seriously happens. If you have an Alexa or a Google Home, or possibly even Siri - fake a discussion about a pet you'd never own with your family, and see what ads you start getting.

They are 24/7 listening devices. This is a simple test. I've gotten a FEW people to try it, but not with Siri. It's the 1984's telescreen. I'm giving you a test so you can verify it's true, if you don't do the test, whatever. We've been trying to warn you for years.

I have had this happen. Not talking about a pet I'd never own, but about something obscure; a few days later... Ad for said I secure thing. And I don't have an Alexa or Siri or any of that crap. Just my android phone and a couple of laptops.
297   Patrick   2024 Jul 1, 9:47am  

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13579885/Americans-ditching-smartphones-dumbphones.html


A growing number of people are ditching their smartphones for 'dumbphones' that only call and text to avoid being in 'zombie mode.'

The simple devices have skyrocketed in popularity, as 2.8 million were sold in the US last year with people proclaiming they feel calmer and more present in their ordinary lives.

A California woman told DailyMail.com that she made the switch after realizing she spent the entire summer on her smartphone, saying she barely remembered the time - she even forgot where she walked her dog.

Caroline Cadwell explained that switching to a dumbphone was impractical at first, but then became freeing.

'Space and time, is how I'd describe it. It's amazing how much your relationships can gain from giving it up,' she said.


And dumbphones can't spy on you as effectively.
299   MolotovCocktail   2024 Jul 15, 3:02pm  

Sheeee-it!

The phone we are looking for has been found!

Some 20yr old wackjob who tried to kill Trump had it all along!
302   RC2006   2024 Aug 9, 8:21am  

Is anyone here using any of the phones discussed here? I have to use my company phone can't do anything about that but considering switching to dumb phone for my personal, or some other privacy centric phone.
303   Patrick   2024 Sep 18, 11:34am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/alice-in-spyland-wednesday-september


It is perfectly impossible to exaggerate the off-the-charts freakishness of this next fantastic, over-the-top, literally explosive 2024 story. Yesterday, Israel’s spy agencies apparently killed, maimed, or wounded up to five thousand Hezbollah enemies without firing a shot, using exploding pagers. The Wall Street Journal covered the story under its headline, “Hezbollah Pagers Explode in Apparent Attack Across Lebanon.”

Iranian-connected, Lebanon-based Hezbollah is a well-equipped Muslim militia and U.S.-designated terror group that has been skirmishing with Israel since last year’s October 7th Hamas atrocity. Recently, following Israel’s assassination of a high-profile Hezbollah leader, the group switched from using high-tech smartphones to lower-tech pagers for communication.

They switched for safety.

Yesterday, up to 5,000 Hezbollah militants all simultaneously received a highly unwelcome message on their pagers. Seconds later, the tiny devices spontaneously detonated, seriously injuring the users, blowing off their hands, violently severing even more delicate body parts, and overwhelming Lebanese hospitals with the wounded. So far, a dozen Hezbollah fighters have died from the trauma and that number will probably increase.

Nobody knows how the mass-assasination was done. Israel hasn’t even confirmed it was involved (but hasn’t denied it, either). Speculation is running rampant, with corporate media doing its best to cover and reassure everyone that all our devices are perfectly safe, this is not an undocumented feature of lithium battery technology, and don’t worry, it cannot be deployed against any inconvenient personage, like you.

Theories abound. Maybe Israeli operatives somehow intercepted all the pager shipments, and cunningly injected explosives that were then somehow triggered by a single pager message. Or maybe the Taiwanese pager manufacturer cooperated or was infiltrated by Israeli spies. Or maybe the Israelis figured out how to blow up lithium batteries in certain devices on command.

We don’t know. And it’s likely we will never know.

One thing is certain though. Now, every intelligence agency in the world has learned a nifty new trick. Not just for one-off assassinations, like the CIA’s infamous exploding cigar, but for mass-marketed, high-precision weapons of mass destruction. We have indeed raced down the rabbit hole.

Ready to retire your smartphone yet?
304   HeadSet   2024 Sep 18, 2:17pm  

Patrick says

Ready to retire your smartphone yet?

This remote detonation trend may put a serious hurt on new phone sales. After all, why but a new phone that may have this modification installed? People are complaining that the iPhone 16 lacks any real new features, so why is Apple releasing a new version? Just need one viral rumor of some bomb sniffing dog alerting on an iPhone 16.
305   stereotomy   2024 Sep 18, 3:07pm  

The Jews are wily - I remember the Bible story about how the Israelites were overmatched on the eve of battle. They heard the revelry of the opposing troops anticipating victory, so they sent their wives and daughters to the enemy camp to have sex with the drunken enemy troops. While the troops were asleep after an all-night fuck session with these women, these whores of necessity proceeded to cut off the balls of the soldiers so that "they were weak" on the day of battle.

It's in the Old Testament - Look it up.
306   Patrick   2025 Jan 26, 1:36pm  

https://www.itechpost.com/articles/105677/20210518/iphone-spying-taking-invisible-photos-disable-face-id-infrared-camera.htm


Is Your iPhone Spying on You by Taking Invisible Photos? Apple Explains Infrared Camera

The short answer is YES, your iPhone takes invisible photos of you all the time. The device takes an infrared image of your face every five seconds while it is turned on. The pictures taken are used for your Face ID to unlock your smartphone device automatically. ...

The details were first shared by a TikTok user named Brie Thomason. She is a photographer who managed to film an iPhone snapping infrared photos every five to 10 seconds. The iPhone continues capturing images, even when the camera is blocked or the screen is locked.
308   iloveCefferMemes   2025 Jan 26, 8:09pm  

And car accidents!

Make sure Attention Aware Features is turned OFF.
Go to Settings > Face ID & Passcode >Attention Aware Features>Click to toggle Off

Patrick says




311   HeadSet   2025 Feb 23, 2:46pm  

Patrick says





How about denying access to groceries because you are FAT?
317   beershrine   2025 Feb 26, 4:38pm  

I wouldn't think that phone or any are any safer. Back in the day when everyone thought landlines were safe and private? That was pure bullshit many people were listening in on dozens of conversations all at the same time and listening to you, I witnessed it several times in the 70s and 90's. With modern tech they might be using humanless methods to capture stuff. Best to use that device as least as possible. Don't drive around with all your location direction apps turned on all the time shooting video. People get stupider and stupider as time goes on.... unbelievable.
318   Patrick   2025 Apr 4, 8:59am  

https://michaelyon.substack.com/p/pocket-spies


(from 2011)

And so, with my iPhone4s using a Facebook app, I touched the tab called “Nearby.” An incredible amount of “actionable intelligence” scrolled on. One friend was at the Sheraton at the Pentagon. Another was at the Pentagon. I emailed to her and she confirmed. Another was at the VA Hospital in Long Beach. Ruby Tuesday. iHop. Starbucks Fort Polk. Times Square. Pacific Grill. Home sweet home. Octapharma Plasma. China Café. FBI Academy. Tahlequah Dialysis Unit. Columbus State University. AJ’s Pizza. Farelli’s Pizza. Palladium Theatre. Home. Crossroads Christian Church. 24 Hour Fitness – Mission Valley California. The Exchange Hotel.

And on and on. With my iPhone, I could track their smartphones in real time.

Some people were also typing entries (just got on the train) and they were being tracked. One young Thai woman was typing entries and finally posted she was home at her condo in Bangkok. At the same time, another was 12 time zones away at X-treme Rockclimbing Gym in Miami, Florida.

Touch one button and GoogleMaps instantly appears showing the precise location. Touch one more button and there is a choice: “Open in Maps,” “Get Directions,” “Cancel.”

I scrolled down the list. Numerous people said they were home. Their locators pinpointed their locations. I touched the buttons and saw their locations on Google Earth. And there was one Afghan friend. I could see exactly where he was in Kabul. He is an avowed enemy of the Taliban. They have threatened to kill him. I emailed at once saying to turn that thing off. I know where you are. If he did not email back very quickly, I was going to call. He emailed back, confirmed his location and turned it off.

It’s not enough that we are careful ourselves. If we are tooling around Afghanistan together, and only one of us has not turned off the location service, we are both trackable by anyone. No special gear or warrant is needed. If someone’s child has this option switched on, the whole family is trackable, not to mention that the child is easily trackable in real time everywhere he or she goes.
319   stereotomy   2025 Apr 4, 9:25am  

Related to a claim I made on another thread about how fucked up things are at the southern border, from the same blog:

Finally, onto a different topic. I published this yesterday:

What is Your Vote?

The United States faces greater threats at home than we face in Afghanistan. The Mexican border, for instance, is being described as a war zone. People have been warning about it for years. Over time, I have seriously considered changing focus to the more proximate and bigger threats.
320   Eric Holder   2025 Apr 4, 2:50pm  

stereotomy says

The United States faces greater threats at home than we face in Afghanistan. The Mexican border, for instance, is being described as a war zone.


Since the threats we face in Afghanistan is zero I do belive that the threat level at the Mexican border is higher than that. As for war zone... nah, not even close. There are plenty of war zones you can view right now almost live. Mexico border ain't it.
321   Eric Holder   2025 Apr 4, 2:52pm  

This thread is perfect as illustration as to why Waltz, Hegseth, Tootsie and Witkoff are stupid cunts: they used phones that spy on them to discuss sensitive national security matters, one of them while literally sitting the the Kremlin waiting room. :facepalm:
322   Patrick   2025 Apr 14, 9:45am  

https://x.com/amuse/status/1911797391201542438



Snowden showed that the NSA is in fact spying on all of us without a a warrant, in violation of the 4th Amendment (no searches without a warrant issued for a specific crime).

So yes, the Europeans should assume that their phones are being monitored at all times by us as well as by their own governments.
323   WookieMan   2025 Apr 14, 1:04pm  

Eric Holder says

This thread is perfect as illustration as to why Waltz, Hegseth, Tootsie and Witkoff are stupid cunts: they used phones that spy on them to discuss sensitive national security matters, one of them while literally sitting the the Kremlin waiting room. :facepalm:

What was sensitive? We could have given Yemen and the Houthis the exact game plan, which we basically did. What in the flying fuck could they do? Outside of nuclear powers we could give anyone our battle plan and destroy them.

Sure it was a mistake, but it didn't much matter.
328   Patrick   2025 May 29, 11:13am  

https://slaynews.com/news/new-eye-scanning-digital-id-launches-6-american-cities/


A new biometric digital ID program has quietly taken root in six major U.S. cities, raising alarm bells among Americans concerned with personal liberty and digital surveillance.

Under the banner of “fighting AI fraud,” the World ID project, backed by OpenAI’s Sam Altman, is scanning people’s irises in exchange for cryptocurrency—and possibly, their privacy.

The system uses a device called the Orb—a shiny, spherical scanner that captures the unique patterns of your eye.

The goal? To create a digital ID that proves you’re a real human being online.

The project’s developers claim this technology will help protect against bots and fraud.

But critics argue it’s another step toward normalizing mass biometric surveillance in the name of convenience.

The disturbing digital ID project has now been rolled out in six Democrat-controlled cities across the country.


It's for your own safety! Shut up! Comply!
329   Patrick   2025 May 29, 11:16am  

https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202504.2487/v1#preprints-h2-6


Background/Objectives: Adverse effects of COVID-19 vaccination on human menstrual cycle characteristics have been observed, but limited data are available on the relationship between COVID-19 vaccination status and birth rates. Therefore, we used nationwide data from the Czech Republic to examine rates of successful conceptions, i.e., conceptions leading to live births 9 months later, for women who were either vaccinated or unvaccinated against COVID-19 before successful conception.

Methods: Summary monthly COVID-19 vaccination and birth data for women aged 18-39 years in the Czech Republic were retrieved for the period from January 2021 to December 2023. The numbers of successful conceptions per month per 1,000 women were calculated for preconception-vaccinated or unvaccinated women, respectively, as well as the number of successful conceptions per month per 1,000 women for all women aged 18-39 years.

Results: During the study period, there were approximately 1,300,000 women aged 18-39 years in the Czech Republic, and the proportion of COVID-19-vaccinated women increased until reaching a steady state of around 70% by the end of 2021. During the entire study period, successful conceptions per 1,000 women were considerably lower for women who were vaccinated, compared to those that were unvaccinated, before successful conception. Furthermore, successful conception rates for the vaccinated group were generally much lower than expected based on their proportion of the total population.

Conclusions: In the Czech Republic, successful conception rates were substantially lower for women vaccinated against COVID-19 before successful conception than for those who were not vaccinated. These hypothesis-generating and preliminary results call for further studies of the potential influence of COVID-19 vaccination on human fecundability and fertility.

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