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A phone which does not spy on you


               
2018 Aug 19, 10:49am   57,514 views  349 comments

by Patrick   follow (59)  

https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/

Librem 5, the phone that focuses on security by design and privacy protection by default. Running Free/Libre and Open Source software and a GNU+Linux Operating System designed to create an open development utopia, rather than the walled gardens from all other phone providers.

A fully standards-based freedom-oriented system, based on Debian and many other upstream projects, has never been done before–we will be the first to seriously attempt this.

The Librem 5 phone will be the world’s first ever IP-native mobile handset, using end-to-end encrypted decentralized communication.


Many others have attempted Open Source phones and failed. I hope this one works, especially since I just discovered that you cannot turn off wifi or Bluetooth on Android or iOS. "Turning it off" in the controls on those phones merely disconnects you from current access points, but leaves them on so they can spy on your location with great precision and open you up to various exploits:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/21/ios-11-apple-toggling-wifi-bluetooth-control-centre-doesnt-turn-them-off

On iOS 11, pressing the wifi toggle immediately disconnects the iPhone or iPad from any wifi networks, but leaves the wireless radio available for use by location services, scanning for the names of nearby wifi access points. The Bluetooth toggle operates in a similar fashion. ...

A similar thing happens in Android smartphones, which use wifi as part of their location services. Switching wifi off prevents it from connecting to wifi access points, but allows it to continue periodically scanning for access point names to help pinpoint its location.




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334   Patrick   2025 Jul 1, 9:48pm  

I've heard this before. Your home wifi can detect when people are moving in the house because the signal changes.

https://jonfleetwood.substack.com/p/xfinity-wifi-tracks-your-movement


Xfinity WiFi Tracks Your Movement at Home—Now CIA Contractor Palantir Has a Path to That Data via Comcast

Your home router now knows when you move—and a CIA-linked surveillance contractor may know too.

Comcast’s Xfinity—the largest cable provider in the U.S.—has rolled out “WiFi Motion,” a real-time in-home motion tracking system, just as its broader data infrastructure now connects to CIA-linked surveillance firm Palantir through a new integration with Databricks, a leading enterprise AI and data platform provider.

Comcast is owned by World Economic Forum (WEF)-tied BlackRock, Vanguard, and StateStreet.

The news comes as DARPA launches a new military AI program—MAGICS—designed to predict and forecast human behavior at scale, raising fresh concerns that tools like Xfinity’s in-home motion tracking could feed future “pre-crime” surveillance systems powered by CIA contractors like Palantir.
335   WookieMan   2025 Jul 2, 11:57am  

Patrick says

I've heard this before. Your home wifi can detect when people are moving in the house because the signal changes.

Or people are just fatter?

Said it before, fuck with the data. I'll shower and say "hey siri" how big is a Golden Retrievers cock? What do horses pussies taste like? I'll get weird shit on my phone after that, but people pay money for the data. They're losing money with my data.

I'm telling you if enough people did it for a week, no one would buy ads. "Would a woman's hip break if a whale inserted its dick into her vagina?"

Control AI and search and we win. Have fun with it. Probably needs a new thread but we should have fun with searches we do with google. Tell friends to do it. Funnier than memes if you want to be. "Would a horse eat your penis if you're dead?"
338   Patrick   2025 Aug 22, 12:22pm  




I'd bet that all Apple products funnel your "private" info to the NSA just like Google products do.
339   stereotomy   2025 Aug 22, 1:04pm  

Apple censors emails. I have a friend with whom I was emailing during the scamdemic. I sent him a link to how bad was your batch, and Apple bounced it.

Apple's privacy thing is a facade - they are building silos and bubbles like the worst of them.

Google just forwards all your shit to the deep state and would prefer you to hang yourself with your own rope.

Six of one and half a dozen of the other. The point is that corporations work hand in glove with the deep state one way or another.
340   Patrick   2025 Sep 6, 1:46pm  

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/khashoggis-widow-sues-israeli-spyware-company-nso-over-phone-hacking-2023-06-16/


Khashoggi's widow sues Israeli spyware company NSO over phone hacking
By Raphael Satter
June 16, 2023

The widow of murdered Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi says in a lawsuit that surveillance software built by the Israeli surveillance company NSO Group was used to spy on her messages in the months leading up to her husband's death.

In a civil suit, opens new tab filed Thursday in the Northern District of Virginia, Hanan Elatr Khashoggi said that NSO "intentionally targeted" her devices and "caused her immense harm, both through the tragic loss of her husband and through her own loss of safety, privacy, and autonomy."

Saudi use of the Pegasus spying tool has come up in other controversial cases. Last year, Reuters reported that an attempt by Saudi authorities to wield Pegasus against Saudi women's rights activist Loujain al-Hathloul backfired, allowing researchers to uncover thousands of other victims and triggering a cascade of legal and government action.
342   The_Deplorable   2025 Oct 24, 9:50am  

Question: Is there a safe phone that does not spy on you?
343   stereotomy   2025 Oct 24, 4:02pm  

Patrick says






Fuck retailers who require you to install their app to get discounts. My family will instead never shop there again unless it's an emergency.

"Fuck you I won't do what you tell me . . ." Yeah I know they are libtard cunts but that is a good song.
344   Patrick   2025 Dec 3, 11:40am  

https://slaynews.com/news/india-mandates-government-surveillance-apps-installed-all-smartphones-track-general-public-24-7/


India’s government has ignited nationwide backlash after quietly ordering private companies to preinstall a controversial government app on every smartphone sold or imported into the country, allowing bureaucrats to track members of the public night and day. ...

The order, sent out last week, gave companies 90 days to ensure the government app Sanchar Saathi was “preinstalled on all mobile handsets manufactured or imported for use in India.”

Officials claimed the requirement was designed “to identify and report acts that may endanger telecom cybersecurity.” ...

The moment Reuters exposed the order, the uproar exploded online, especially among critics of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s increasingly tech-authoritarian government.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/india-orders-mobile-phones-preloaded-with-government-app-ensure-cyber-safety-2025-12-01/
345   Patrick   2025 Dec 4, 11:22am  

https://slaynews.com/news/eu-approves-new-mandate-blanket-scanning-public-private-messages-protect-children/


The Council of the European Union has quietly approved a sweeping new mandate that gives unelected bureaucrats direct access to “scan” the private messages of the general public, all under the guise of “protecting children.”

Eurocrats have taken another major step toward resurrecting the EU’s infamous Chat Control surveillance regime.

However, this time the dystopian agenda has been advanced this time behind closed doors. ...

Officials still insist that the chilling plot is about “child protection,” but critics across the political spectrum say the plan is simply Chat Control 2.0, a massive surveillance framework disguised as reform.


You see, we had to spy on and then murder all political opposition for the children! For the children! That makes it OK.
347   Patrick   2025 Dec 16, 12:41pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/uk-lawmakers-push-mandate-surveillance-tracking-smartphones-child-safety/


UK Lawmakers Push to Mandate Surveillance Tracking on All Smartphones for ‘Child Safety’

Privacy advocates are sounding the alarm over the most sweeping attempt at digital control ever proposed in a Western democracy, as UK lawmakers advance plans to roll out an unprecedented public monitoring program under the guise of “protecting children’s well-being.”

A new set of amendments quietly slipped into the United Kingdom’s Children’s Wellbeing and Schools Bill would force nearly all smartphones and tablets sold in the country to come preloaded with tamper-proof government-mandated surveillance software.

Under the legislation, the monitoring cannot be removed, disabled, or opted out of.


https://slaynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/children-wellbeing-schools-bill-amendments-11-dec-2025.pdf
348   HeadSet   2025 Dec 17, 6:05pm  

Patrick says

UK Lawmakers Push to Mandate Surveillance Tracking on All Smartphones for ‘Child Safety’

Does that mean the mic is recording? Smartphones already track your location.
349   Patrick   2025 Dec 17, 7:22pm  

I think some experiments have shown that your phone is always listening to you anyway.

And probably tracking your location at all times.

Maybe this one is better:

https://puri.sm/products/liberty-phone/

Claims to have physical off switches for mic and GPS.

$2K though, and maybe they're just another front for the NSA anyway.

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