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Cohen's plea deal is prosecutor's attempt to set up Trump


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2018 Aug 22, 8:39am   8,618 views  59 comments

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Why was Michael Cohen investigated? Because the “Steele dossier” had him making secret trips to meet with Russians that never happened, so his business dealings got a thorough scrubbing and, in the process, he fell into the special counsel’s Manafort bin — the bin reserved for squeezing until the juice comes out.

The plot to get President Trump out of office thickens, as Cohen obviously was his own mini-crime syndicate and decided that his betrayals of Trump meant he would be better served turning on his old boss to cut the best deal with prosecutors he could rather than holding out and getting the full Manafort treatment. That was clear the minute he hired attorney Lanny Davis, who doesn’t try cases and did past work for Hillary Clinton.

Cohen had recorded his client, trying to entrap him, sold information about Trump (while acting as his lawyer) to corporations for millions of dollars, and didn’t pay taxes on millions.

The sweetener for the prosecutors, of course, was getting Cohen to plead guilty to campaign finance violations that were not campaign finance violations.


http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/402959-cohens-plea-deal-is-prosecutors-attempt-to-set-up-trump

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20   MrMagic   2018 Aug 22, 9:57pm  

Aphroman says
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https://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/28/us/politics/28oxycontin.html

https://www.newsweek.com/rudy-giuliani-trump-investigation-oxycontin-895365



Aphroman says
he's a slimy lawyer and politician who had a pivotal role in creating todays Opiate crisis


OK, let's see if there's any truth to that statement. From YOUR link.

....."Giuliani, formed a consulting firm called Giuliani Partners in 2002, shortly after his tenure as New York City mayor came to an end. According to a 2007 New York Times investigation into the firm’s connections to Purdue, the drugmaker was Giuliani Partners’ “first and longest-running client” and hired Giuliani to convince “public officials that they could trust Purdue because they could trust him.”

So, Giuliani did the job he was HIRED and PAID to do??

That's so un-American.... faithfully providing a service that you're paid to do... He should be executed!!
21   Goran_K   2018 Aug 22, 10:26pm  

I hope Muellar gets his wish of committing treason for the Democrat party. This country has needed a cleansing for a while. Because that’s what he’s inviting and it will get ugly.
22   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Aug 22, 11:35pm  

CBOEtrader says

It does make one question Trump's judgement to have a scumbag like this on retainer.

Theres obviously a lot more to this story.


Cohen put in his plea deal as the principal. It was accepted by the prosecutors.

What does that mean, he plead as the principal, and the prosecution accepted that?

Hint: Kamala Harris accused Trump today of something that the plea deal makes impossible.
23   CBOEtrader   2018 Aug 23, 8:33am  

CBOEtrader says
RafiMaas says
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has got one.


This is a witchhunt, pure and simple. The American people see this, and will continue to #walkaway as long as this mockery of the justice system continues.

Go after the actual criminals, perhaps Manafort and certainly Cohen qualify...but using them as open doors to setup trump at will is a "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime" type tyranny. All this while ignoring actual crimes from their establishment team. Its gross man. This is a sad, sad time for our US institutions.

I hope Trump pardons all of them, then fires Mueller and every holdover from Obama, then revokes all security clearances for anyone not still in government. It's time to drop the hammer.
24   CBOEtrader   2018 Aug 23, 8:33am  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Hint: Kamala Harris accused Trump today of something that the plea deal makes impossible.


Could you just make your point? I dont have time to cross reference and read between lines
25   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Aug 23, 8:36am  

CBOEtrader says
Could you just make your point? I dont have time to cross reference and read between lines



He can't be an co-conspirator, since Cohen plea names himself as the prime mover.

So the Dems hope of this opening up the door to something is rubbish.

Of course, the Dems could impeach Trump for anything, since there's no established limit to "High Crimes and Misdemeanors".

The prosecutors required him to also plead guilty to the non-crimes of Fundraising Violations along with his real crimes of Tax Dodging to make a political point.
26   Shaman   2018 Aug 23, 8:39am  

Yes the Dems could but holy fuck what a horrible precedent that would set! Get a majority of opposition party in Congress and impeach! Still, they are stupid enough to do it. And then whine about it like Chuck Schumer does about judicial confirmations when HE set the rule that a simple majority was all that was necessary. Of course that was when they wanted to seat the wise Latina and Kagan, some of the most Leftist activist nominees ever chosen.
27   MrMagic   2018 Aug 23, 8:52am  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
He can't be an co-conspirator, since Cohen plea names himself as the prime mover.

So the Dems hope of this opening up the door to something is rubbish.


Plus, Cohen is the attorney in the relationship, and should know the laws, and advise his client accordingly.
28   MrMagic   2018 Aug 23, 8:53am  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
The prosecutors required him to also plead guilty to the non-crimes of Fundraising Violations along with his real crimes of Tax Dodging to make a political point.


Exactly... the prosecution wrote the plea deal and told him to sign it. The prosecution added the non-crime of the non-campaign payment, knowing that there won't be a trial where they could be proven wrong.
29   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Aug 23, 9:03am  

RafiMaas says
I see, and Cohen was forced to sign this?



Yep, it was that or get 20 years on the Fraud charges.
30   Goran_K   2018 Aug 23, 9:09am  

Aphroman says
How is Mueller committing treason for the Democrats party?


He's actively being used as a pawn of the DNC to get the "result" they wanted in 2016.

He's also going to get his ass kicked hard if he succeeds, and all of his friends.
31   Goran_K   2018 Aug 23, 9:10am  

HEYYOU says
It can get as ugly as Trump's Rep/Con co-conspirators want to make it, including taking it to the streets.


That's fine.

Leftist vs Conservatives in armed conflict? How long do you think it would last? 2-3 hours?
32   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 23, 9:11am  

Goran_K says

That's fine.

Leftist vs Conservatives in armed conflict? How long do you think it would last? 2-3 hours?


lol--conservatives would get their asses kicked pretty quickly. Most are over 65 and using a walker.
33   Tenpoundbass   2018 Aug 23, 9:11am  

HEYYOU says
Entirely too complex of a question for patnetters.


Not for the intelligent ones. That question wasn't formulated for retards and shitbirds.
If you try to make something idiot proof, they'll just go invent a bigger idiot.
34   Goran_K   2018 Aug 23, 9:13am  

LeonDurham says
lol--conservatives would get their asses kicked pretty quickly. Most are over 65 and using a walker.


Keep thinking that. Just don't end up in a mass grave it if sparks off with your fantasies of how "armed conflict" will go for your side. That would be tragic.
35   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Aug 23, 9:20am  

Remember it used to be "Tolerance and Diversity"

Now it's just "Diversity"

Something I just thought of on the John.

What happened to "Tolerance"?
36   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 23, 9:21am  

Goran_K says
Keep thinking that. Just don't end up in a mass grave it if sparks off with your fantasies of how "armed conflict" will go for your side. That would be tragic.


lol--I'm not too worried. But thanks for your concern.
37   Goran_K   2018 Aug 23, 9:22am  

RafiMaas says
If so who is controlling him to do so?




RafiMaas says
And how do they have so much leverage over Mueller?

38   Goran_K   2018 Aug 23, 9:23am  

RafiMaas says
But ONLY the left is violent.


The right can be violent too. Remember the last Civil War when Democrats got their asses kicked?
39   Goran_K   2018 Aug 23, 9:23am  

LeonDurham says
lol--I'm not too worried. But thanks for your concern.


lol, ok
40   MrMagic   2018 Aug 23, 9:25am  

It must be getting near the end of the month, and the trolls need money to pay their bills.

They're out in full force today.
41   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 23, 9:26am  

Goran_K says
lol, ok


Here's your army. I'm shaking.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/trumps-graying-army/505274/

"PANAMA CITY, Florida—The crowd at the Donald Trump rally was a sea of gray and white. They hobbled on walkers and canes into the massive amphitheater, searching for a place to sit on the lawn."
42   Goran_K   2018 Aug 23, 9:27am  

MrMagic says
It must be getting near the end of the month, and the trolls need money to pay their bills.

They're out in full force today.



As long as they keep it clean. The ad hom attacks are drastically down, the mods have whipped the trolls into shape good.
43   MrMagic   2018 Aug 23, 9:28am  

LeonDurham says
lol--conservatives would get their asses kicked pretty quickly. Most are over 65 and using a walker.


Sure.. Most.... LOL...

44   MrMagic   2018 Aug 23, 9:29am  

LeonDurham says
Goran_K says


As long as they keep it clean. The ad hom attacks are drastically down, the mods have whipped the trolls into shape good.


lol--more trolling from the King Troll.


Yes, you're very busy today.
45   Goran_K   2018 Aug 23, 9:30am  

Tatupu, keep it non-personal and on-topic. Thanks buddy!
46   Goran_K   2018 Aug 23, 9:31am  

LeonDurham says
Here's your army. I'm shaking.


lol ok
47   Goran_K   2018 Aug 23, 9:33am  

Tatupu, you ain't getting the last word, behave, or get nuked. Your choice. The rules are pretty damn simple.

Thanks buddy!
48   MrMagic   2018 Aug 23, 9:34am  

LeonDurham says

lol--conservatives would get their asses kicked pretty quickly.


Ha Ha LOL

49   Goran_K   2018 Aug 23, 9:36am  

Yes, the party of people who don't know if they are boys or girls, safe spaces, and hate gun ownership is going to win an armed conflict. lol

The only leftist that are any real threat are the jihadis, and they only like jihadi leftist, everyone else is a target (even other Democrats).
50   MrMagic   2018 Aug 23, 9:39am  

Goran_K says
The only leftist that are any real threat are the jihadis, and they only like jihadi leftist, everyone else is a target (even other Democrats).


Maybe the Antifa Snowflakes will come to the aid of the Dems, with their wooden sticks and black masks...
51   Goran_K   2018 Aug 23, 9:40am  

MrMagic says
Maybe the Antifa Snowflakes will come to the aid of the Dems, with their wooden sticks and black masks...


Yeah, we saw fully what the left had to offer in "armed conflict" in Portland.
www.youtube.com/embed/EegXpiHInVg
53   Goran_K   2018 Aug 23, 9:42am  

Their green and purple hair gives such high contrast. Not a great tactic for surviving sharp shooters.
54   MrMagic   2018 Aug 23, 9:43am  

LeonDurham says
Here's your army. I'm shaking.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/trumps-graying-army/505274/

"PANAMA CITY, Florida—The crowd at the Donald Trump rally was a sea of gray and white. They hobbled on walkers and canes into the massive amphitheater, searching for a place to sit on the lawn."


aaah, Ha Ha Ha Ha ha Ha.. LoL LOL LOL....

Using a Trump rally in Florida to make a non-existent point..

That's Awesome...



Here's a hint.. all the "conservatives" were off working... (I know, "work", an unknown concept for Liberals).
55   Shaman   2018 Aug 23, 11:51am  

RafiMaas says
I see, and Cohen was forced to sign this?


Whether or not he signed it proves absolutely nothing. He’s a shoddy horrible completely corrupted witness whose testimony is worthless, especially against the President. Cohen was staring down a long sentence for unrelated crimes... or he could sign this little sheet Mueller handed him. He chose the cowardly way, as is normal for lawyers.
56   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 23, 11:54am  

MrMagic says
Using a Trump rally in Florida to make a non-existent point..


Someone obviously didn't read the article...
57   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Aug 23, 12:35pm  

Here's the pre-planned attack as "unindicted co-conspirator" bullshit:

I have cancelled my meeting with Judge Kavanaugh. @realDonaldTrump, who is an unindicted co-conspirator in a criminal matter, does not deserve the courtesy of a meeting with his nominee—purposely selected to protect, as we say in Hawaii, his own okole.

— Senator Mazie Hirono (@maziehirono) August 22, 2018

58   Shaman   2018 Aug 23, 1:07pm  

Like she would have ever considered voting to wear Kavanaugh. Sheer political theater.
59   MrMagic   2018 Aug 23, 1:19pm  

LeonDurham says
MrMagic says
Using a Trump rally in Florida to make a non-existent point..


Someone obviously didn't read the article...


Please feel free to point out where it says in the article that the majority of conservatives (Trump voters) are over 65 and using walkers, like you stated. I already proved your B.S. wrong above with multiple examples.

I'll be waiting......

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