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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 10, 4:44pm
PrivilegedtobeWhite says
OK, read it. Still don't see the relevancy to me. Do you think I'm anti free speech?
Interesting, but fail to see how it will change my life.Start with page 1 and keep going...
OK, read it. Still don't see the relevancy to me. Do you think I'm anti free speech?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 4:46pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 4:46pm
LeonDurham says
OMG, he did? I'm sure Obama never lobbied anybody personally for a donor, and we all know Hillary would never, ever, do anything.
I know, I know, to mention that Democrats do it is whataboutery, and we shouldn't interrupt criticism of Trump with pesky reminders that every politician, including and especially Democrats, have done so.
I don't care if he's nice. I care that his policies are crap. The latest revelation is that he personally lobbied for Sheldon Adelson with the Japanese Prime Minister after Adelson donated to his campaign and Republicans. Drain the swamp, indeed.
OMG, he did? I'm sure Obama never lobbied anybody personally for a donor, and we all know Hillary would never, ever, do anything.
I know, I know, to mention that Democrats do it is whataboutery, and we shouldn't interrupt criticism of Trump with pesky reminders that every politician, including and especially Democrats, have done so.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 10, 4:53pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
I don't know of any time Obama did, and judging by Abe's reaction, it definitely appears that nobody had done anything remotely like it in the past.
Regardless, didn't you vote for Trump because you THOUGHT he was different?
Will you ever admit that you were taken by a snake oil salesman?
OMG, he did? I'm sure Obama never lobbied anybody personally for a donor, and we all know Hillary would never, ever, do anything.
I don't know of any time Obama did, and judging by Abe's reaction, it definitely appears that nobody had done anything remotely like it in the past.
Regardless, didn't you vote for Trump because you THOUGHT he was different?
Will you ever admit that you were taken by a snake oil salesman?
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Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 4:55pm
Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 4:55pm
LeonDurham says
Lobbying for Sheldon Adelson is not even a policy.
It seems to me you don't like him for whatever reason, and keep digging for something that makes him look bad. That's an obsession.
Why do Trump supporters keep pretending that peoples' objections to Trump are because he isn't "nice"?
I don't care if he's nice. I care that his policies are crap. The latest revelation is that he personally lobbied for Sheldon Adelson with the Japanese Prime Minister after Adelson donated to his campaign and Republicans. Drain the swamp, indeed.
Lobbying for Sheldon Adelson is not even a policy.
It seems to me you don't like him for whatever reason, and keep digging for something that makes him look bad. That's an obsession.
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Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 4:56pm
Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 4:56pm
LeonDurham says
I was. By Obama when I voted for him for his 2nd term.
Will you ever admit that you were taken by a snake oil salesman?
I was. By Obama when I voted for him for his 2nd term.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 10, 5:01pm
Strategist says
Sorry, you're right. Pay for play isn't a policy, it's another example of the corruptness of Trump and his cronies. He is the worst of the swamp creatures and it's no surprise that his cabinet was full of men and women of similar morals.
Lobbying for Sheldon Adelson is not even a policy.
Sorry, you're right. Pay for play isn't a policy, it's another example of the corruptness of Trump and his cronies. He is the worst of the swamp creatures and it's no surprise that his cabinet was full of men and women of similar morals.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 10, 5:01pm
Strategist says
Surprised you repeated the mistake again in the next election.
I was. By Obama when I voted for him for his 2nd term.
Surprised you repeated the mistake again in the next election.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 5:13pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 5:13pm
LeonDurham says
I voted for tariffs, NAFTA renegotiation, less boots on the ground, less rapefugees, more restrictions on immigration from states with Islamist Violence, anti-PC, the #2A, Israel, and the Wall.
I already got most of what I want and it's not halfway in his Term yet. Very pleased.
I voted for Obama in 2008 for a new Glass-Steagal. Instead I got some kind of Heavily Corporate Subsidized "Heath Care", intended to be as mandatory as Car Insurance. And a reversal of race relations, and a lot of Franz Fanon Turd Worlder Talk, Michael Froman of Citigroup vetting the Entire Cabinet, and a betrayal of Israel as a final move.
Regardless, didn't you vote for Trump because you THOUGHT he was different?
I voted for tariffs, NAFTA renegotiation, less boots on the ground, less rapefugees, more restrictions on immigration from states with Islamist Violence, anti-PC, the #2A, Israel, and the Wall.
I already got most of what I want and it's not halfway in his Term yet. Very pleased.
I voted for Obama in 2008 for a new Glass-Steagal. Instead I got some kind of Heavily Corporate Subsidized "Heath Care", intended to be as mandatory as Car Insurance. And a reversal of race relations, and a lot of Franz Fanon Turd Worlder Talk, Michael Froman of Citigroup vetting the Entire Cabinet, and a betrayal of Israel as a final move.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 10, 5:16pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
lol--yeah, you really got what you wanted with the NAFTA renegotiation. What happened to all your posts about soy boy Trudeau caving??
Are there fewer boots on the ground?
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Well, you're definitely not getting bank regulation now. That's for damn sure.
I voted for tariffs, NAFTA renegotiation, less boots on the ground, anti-PC, the #2A, and the Wall.
lol--yeah, you really got what you wanted with the NAFTA renegotiation. What happened to all your posts about soy boy Trudeau caving??
Are there fewer boots on the ground?
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
I voted for Obama in 2008 for Bank Regulation. I got some kind of Heavily Subsidized Corporate "Heath Care" instead, intended to be as mandatory as Car Insurance.
Well, you're definitely not getting bank regulation now. That's for damn sure.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 5:18pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 5:18pm
LeonDurham says
You must have missed it. Trudeau caved like Jacques Cousteau in the Blue Hole of Belize. Opened the Canadian Diary Market wide, and got minimum North American Parts for autos increased.
LeonDurham says
I didn't get any bank regulation right on the heels of a massive banking crisis with Dems controlling the House & Presidency.
But a lot of blah blah about Henri Louis Gates being the victim of racism because people saw a dude trying to open windows on a house in broad daylight and the cops asking what he was doing.
lol--yeah, you really got what you wanted with the NAFTA renegotiation. What happened to all your posts about soy boy Trudeau caving??
You must have missed it. Trudeau caved like Jacques Cousteau in the Blue Hole of Belize. Opened the Canadian Diary Market wide, and got minimum North American Parts for autos increased.
LeonDurham says
Well, you're definitely not getting bank regulation now. That's for damn sure.
I didn't get any bank regulation right on the heels of a massive banking crisis with Dems controlling the House & Presidency.
But a lot of blah blah about Henri Louis Gates being the victim of racism because people saw a dude trying to open windows on a house in broad daylight and the cops asking what he was doing.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 5:21pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 5:21pm
USMCA: Trudeau Surrenders.
https://patrick.net/post/1319249/2018-10-01-markets-up-bigly-as-canada-caves-ushers-in-usmca
Of course he did. Liberals lost the past 4 of 5 provincial elections, including their old Stronghold of Quebec and even Ottawa. Companies were already laying off thousands in anticipation of no deal.
https://patrick.net/post/1319249/2018-10-01-markets-up-bigly-as-canada-caves-ushers-in-usmca
Of course he did. Liberals lost the past 4 of 5 provincial elections, including their old Stronghold of Quebec and even Ottawa. Companies were already laying off thousands in anticipation of no deal.
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LastMan
2018 Oct 10, 5:26pm
Strategist says
At this point in time. You hit the nail on the head with that part, that Wall Street is short term in its thinking. What will boost profits and thus commissions now. Most politicians, including Trump, are the same in their short term thinking. They push ahead with whatever their agenda is and put it on the back of the national debt.
I'm a long term thinker and expect the same. Sometimes I wonder if all the hyper-partisanship is meant to distract from financial long term failings.
Wall Street is the ultimate judge on the economy and economic policies. Wall Street has concluded "increasing spending while cutting taxes" will benefit the economy at this point in time.
At this point in time. You hit the nail on the head with that part, that Wall Street is short term in its thinking. What will boost profits and thus commissions now. Most politicians, including Trump, are the same in their short term thinking. They push ahead with whatever their agenda is and put it on the back of the national debt.
I'm a long term thinker and expect the same. Sometimes I wonder if all the hyper-partisanship is meant to distract from financial long term failings.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 5:28pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 5:28pm
CBOEtrader says
That's modern journalism's version of "Well backed sources". Jesus, it's not even somebody claimed to hear it, it's somebody was told by somebody who allegedly heard it.
Sounds legit af
That's modern journalism's version of "Well backed sources". Jesus, it's not even somebody claimed to hear it, it's somebody was told by somebody who allegedly heard it.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 10, 5:33pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
lol--the stock market goes up 200 pts if the Bears win on Sunday. That's your evidence that it was a good deal? 3.6% instead of 3.2% of the Canadian market? Not even considering that the Canadian government will simply subsidize their farmers like the US does so they are competitive.
USMCA: Trudeau Surrenders.
https://patrick.net/post/1319249/2018-10-01-markets-up-bigly-as-canada-caves-ushers-in-usmca
Of course he did. Liberals lost the past 4 of 5 provincial elections, including their old Stronghold of Quebec and even Ottawa. Companies were already laying off thousands in anticipation of no deal.
lol--the stock market goes up 200 pts if the Bears win on Sunday. That's your evidence that it was a good deal? 3.6% instead of 3.2% of the Canadian market? Not even considering that the Canadian government will simply subsidize their farmers like the US does so they are competitive.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 10, 5:34pm
CBOEtrader says
Oh Crap. How did I forget?? Unnamed sources are only believable when they say good things about Trump!!
Sounds legit afTwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
That's modern journalism's version of "Well backed sources". Jesus, it's not even somebody claimed to hear it, it's somebody was told by somebody who allegedly heard it.
Oh Crap. How did I forget?? Unnamed sources are only believable when they say good things about Trump!!
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 5:47pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 5:47pm
LeonDurham says
Tell me what changes Obama made to NAFTA? Did he increase the minimum number of $15+/hr workers? Increase the percentage of Parts in Autos to be considered NAFTA?
Oh yeah, nothing. Because Obama and the Democrats are militant outsourcers Obama didn't even try.
And of course, the rise in stocks was the consensus:
https://www.investors.com/market-trend/stock-market-today/stock-futures-stocks-nafta-ge-tesla/
lol--the stock market goes up 200 pts if the Bears win on Sunday. That's your evidence that it was a good deal? 3.6% instead of 3.2% of the Canadian market? Not even considering that the Canadian government will simply subsidize their farmers like the US does so they are competitive.
Tell me what changes Obama made to NAFTA? Did he increase the minimum number of $15+/hr workers? Increase the percentage of Parts in Autos to be considered NAFTA?
Oh yeah, nothing. Because Obama and the Democrats are militant outsourcers Obama didn't even try.
And of course, the rise in stocks was the consensus:
https://www.investors.com/market-trend/stock-market-today/stock-futures-stocks-nafta-ge-tesla/
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 5:50pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 5:50pm
LeonDurham says
Not long ago, a Journo who said to their Editor : "I heard it from a guy who says he heard it from another guy" would have been laughed out of the office. But if it's Anti-Trump, it's good to go!
"Accountability Journalism"
Oh Crap. How did I forget?? Unnamed sources are only believable when they say good things about Trump!!
Not long ago, a Journo who said to their Editor : "I heard it from a guy who says he heard it from another guy" would have been laughed out of the office. But if it's Anti-Trump, it's good to go!
"Accountability Journalism"
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Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 6:04pm
Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 6:04pm
LastMan says
US corporations are very short term oriented. I believe Trump is too. He is pushing for too much growth all at the same time, when businesses can't even find workers anymore.
I think he should go easy for a bit, and save his Aces for when a downturn materializes.
Nevertheless, I would pick Trump over Obama anytime.
Strategist saysWall Street is the ultimate judge on the economy and economic policies. Wall Street has concluded "increasing spending while cutting taxes" will benefit the economy at this point in time.
At this point in time. You hit the nail on the head with that part, that Wall Street is short term in its thinking. What will boost profits and thus commissions now. Most politicians, including Trump, are the same in their short term thinking. They push ahead with whatever their agenda is and put it on the back of the national debt.
I'm a long term thinker and expect the same. Sometimes I wonder if all the hyper-partisanship is meant to distract from financial long term failings.
US corporations are very short term oriented. I believe Trump is too. He is pushing for too much growth all at the same time, when businesses can't even find workers anymore.
I think he should go easy for a bit, and save his Aces for when a downturn materializes.
Nevertheless, I would pick Trump over Obama anytime.
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LastMan
2018 Oct 10, 6:24pm
Strategist says
That was not the goal of this thread, to pick between Trump and whoever.
CBOEtrader says
Nevertheless, I would pick Trump over Obama anytime.
That was not the goal of this thread, to pick between Trump and whoever.
CBOEtrader says
What is your most well-reasoned anti-Trump argument?
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Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 6:28pm
Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 6:28pm
LastMan says
His support for ugly dirty coal.
Another one bites the dust. So sad.
https://www.energycentral.com/c/gn/chapter-11-us-coal-company
One of the oldest coal companies in the U.S. filed for bankruptcy protection to deal with it's $1.4 billion debt amid declining demand for fuel. Westmoreland Coal Co. began in 1854 in Pennsylvania and operates in Montana
CBOEtrader saysWhat is your most well-reasoned anti-Trump argument?
His support for ugly dirty coal.
Another one bites the dust. So sad.
https://www.energycentral.com/c/gn/chapter-11-us-coal-company
One of the oldest coal companies in the U.S. filed for bankruptcy protection to deal with it's $1.4 billion debt amid declining demand for fuel. Westmoreland Coal Co. began in 1854 in Pennsylvania and operates in Montana
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Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 7:14pm
Strategist
2018 Oct 10, 7:14pm
Aphroman says
1. Economy. Too socialistic. He could not inspire enough confidence among businesses, which was needed to get full recovery for the economy.
2. North Korea. He was a total disaster. They gained nuclear weapons.I was so disgusted.
3. Iran. He kicked the can down the street. Such a wimp.
4. Terrorism. He did not prevent the genocide of Yazidis. Very shameful.
5. He was too nice to be a tough President. "Nice guys finish last"
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The reasons why I did not vote for him in 2008 all came true. Yet I voted for him in 2016. I'm such a sucker.
Strategist saysLeonDurham saysWill you ever admit that you were taken by a snake oil salesman?
I was. By Obama when I voted for him for his 2nd term.
What did he deceive you about? In 2012
1. Economy. Too socialistic. He could not inspire enough confidence among businesses, which was needed to get full recovery for the economy.
2. North Korea. He was a total disaster. They gained nuclear weapons.I was so disgusted.
3. Iran. He kicked the can down the street. Such a wimp.
4. Terrorism. He did not prevent the genocide of Yazidis. Very shameful.
5. He was too nice to be a tough President. "Nice guys finish last"
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The reasons why I did not vote for him in 2008 all came true. Yet I voted for him in 2016. I'm such a sucker.
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Bd6r
2018 Oct 10, 7:23pm
Bd6r
2018 Oct 10, 7:23pm
CBOEtrader says
Deficit increase due to tax cuts without corresponding spending cuts - acts like a typical boomer needing instant gratification paid for by YUUGE debt.
What is your most well-reasoned anti-Trump argument?
Deficit increase due to tax cuts without corresponding spending cuts - acts like a typical boomer needing instant gratification paid for by YUUGE debt.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 10, 7:57pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
More whataboutism from the King. Obama sucked on trade--no doubt. He was way too eager to work with Republicans and do their dirty work.
Tell me what changes Obama made to NAFTA?
More whataboutism from the King. Obama sucked on trade--no doubt. He was way too eager to work with Republicans and do their dirty work.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 10, 7:59pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
And if the unnamed source says there is no Trump/Russia collusion, then TwoScoops and all the other Trumpcucks eat it up no questions asked!
Not long ago, a Journo who said to their Editor : "I heard it from a guy who says he heard it from another guy" would have been laughed out of the office. But if it's Anti-Trump, it's good to go!
"Accountability Journalism"
And if the unnamed source says there is no Trump/Russia collusion, then TwoScoops and all the other Trumpcucks eat it up no questions asked!
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 9:24pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 9:24pm
LeonDurham says
Funny, I didn't see that Trump needed Senate permission to start renegotiating NAFTA.
Here's Obama on TPP:
www.youtube.com/embed/nt4RBpxp4Tc
There's been so much winning I forgot that Trump buried the Neoliberal/Neocon favorite Trade Agreement, the one that makes Americans compete with enslaved Laotians. Whose tough labor protections include a $1/day minimum wage - which was the absolute poverty line, 30 years ago. Nobody in the world could make that and not eventually starve to death.
More whataboutism from the King. Obama sucked on trade--no doubt. He was way too eager to work with Republicans and do their dirty work.
Funny, I didn't see that Trump needed Senate permission to start renegotiating NAFTA.
Here's Obama on TPP:
www.youtube.com/embed/nt4RBpxp4Tc
There's been so much winning I forgot that Trump buried the Neoliberal/Neocon favorite Trade Agreement, the one that makes Americans compete with enslaved Laotians. Whose tough labor protections include a $1/day minimum wage - which was the absolute poverty line, 30 years ago. Nobody in the world could make that and not eventually starve to death.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 9:26pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 10, 9:26pm
BUT Wait, there's MORE:
Obama promises to "Immediately" call the President of Mexico and the PM of Canada to renegotiate NAFTA campaigning in 2008. It never happened:
www.youtube.com/embed/PF9gpvI2UfU
So Obama started his Presidency proclaiming he'd renegotiate NAFTA, ended his Presidency pushing TPP, the greatest Corporate Giveaway and Outsourcing Regime that would have created unelected, unaccountable Courts of Corporate Lawyers to nullify US Laws, down to the local level to the point it could penalize a small town that wanted to limit store hours after midnight to stop drinking/crime in the parking lot.
Again, the President negotiates and THEN the Congress votes. Obama had a Dem Congress anyway in 2009-2010, but he wouldn't have needed one to start renegotiating So the "But Republican Congress" is doubly inapplicable.
Obama promises to "Immediately" call the President of Mexico and the PM of Canada to renegotiate NAFTA campaigning in 2008. It never happened:
www.youtube.com/embed/PF9gpvI2UfU
So Obama started his Presidency proclaiming he'd renegotiate NAFTA, ended his Presidency pushing TPP, the greatest Corporate Giveaway and Outsourcing Regime that would have created unelected, unaccountable Courts of Corporate Lawyers to nullify US Laws, down to the local level to the point it could penalize a small town that wanted to limit store hours after midnight to stop drinking/crime in the parking lot.
Again, the President negotiates and THEN the Congress votes. Obama had a Dem Congress anyway in 2009-2010, but he wouldn't have needed one to start renegotiating So the "But Republican Congress" is doubly inapplicable.
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Strategist
2018 Oct 11, 7:55am
Strategist
2018 Oct 11, 7:55am
Aphroman says
The first thing Obama did was to screw the GM bondholders in favor of the employees. You can't do that and inspire confidence in businesses. Trump made tax changes and just look at the boom that followed.
How was Obama too socialistic?
The first thing Obama did was to screw the GM bondholders in favor of the employees. You can't do that and inspire confidence in businesses. Trump made tax changes and just look at the boom that followed.
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Strategist
2018 Oct 11, 8:09am
Strategist
2018 Oct 11, 8:09am
Aphroman says
Obama failed to inspire confidence due to his socialistic leanings, which is why we had a stagnating economy instead of a full recovery. A full recovery quickly follows a recession, but not when he was in charge.
Strategist saysAphroman saysHow was Obama too socialistic?
The first thing Obama did was to screw the GM bondholders in favor of the employees. You can't do that and inspire confidence in businesses. Trump made tax changes and just look at the boom that followed.
You said after the 2012 election though
Obama failed to inspire confidence due to his socialistic leanings, which is why we had a stagnating economy instead of a full recovery. A full recovery quickly follows a recession, but not when he was in charge.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 11, 4:01pm
PrivilegedtobeWhite says
Yep, sure did. So, how does it relate to me exactly?
LeonDurham saysOK, read it.No you didn't
Yep, sure did. So, how does it relate to me exactly?
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 11, 4:03pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
What the hell are you talking about? I said Obama sucked on trade. And that he worked way too much with Republicans to advance their free trade agenda. You're agreeing with me but pretending to disagree.
Again, the President negotiates and THEN the Congress votes. Obama had a Dem Congress anyway in 2009-2010, but he wouldn't have needed one to start renegotiating So the "But Republican Congress" is doubly inapplicable.
What the hell are you talking about? I said Obama sucked on trade. And that he worked way too much with Republicans to advance their free trade agenda. You're agreeing with me but pretending to disagree.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 11, 4:17pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Oct 11, 4:17pm
LeonDurham says
Obama promised to renegotiate NAFTA.
Promises Made, Promises Broken.
Trade is one of my top 3 issues, I can never trust the Democrats again until I see America First trade deals being made and/or voted in by them.
What the hell are you talking about? I said Obama sucked on trade. And that he worked way too much with Republicans to advance their free trade agenda. You're agreeing with me but pretending to disagree.
Obama promised to renegotiate NAFTA.
Promises Made, Promises Broken.
Trade is one of my top 3 issues, I can never trust the Democrats again until I see America First trade deals being made and/or voted in by them.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 11, 5:08pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
You should have voted for Bernie like I did.
Obama promised to renegotiate NAFTA.
Promises Made, Promises Broken.
Trade is one of my top 3 issues, I can never trust the Democrats again until I see America First trade deals being made and/or voted in by them.
You should have voted for Bernie like I did.
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 11, 5:10pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Trump promised to get tough on Wall St. and Big Banks.
Promises Made. Promises Broken.
Reforming Wall St./Big Banks is one of my top 3 issues. I will never vote for Republicans again. period.
Obama promised to renegotiate NAFTA.
Promises Made, Promises Broken.
Trump promised to get tough on Wall St. and Big Banks.
Promises Made. Promises Broken.
Reforming Wall St./Big Banks is one of my top 3 issues. I will never vote for Republicans again. period.
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LastMan
2018 Oct 11, 6:37pm
LeonDurham says
You don't consider big tax breaks getting tough on banks?
https://www.vox.com/business-and-finance/2018/8/12/17680748/tax-cuts-big-banks-jpmorgan
Trump promised to get tough on Wall St. and Big Banks.
You don't consider big tax breaks getting tough on banks?
https://www.vox.com/business-and-finance/2018/8/12/17680748/tax-cuts-big-banks-jpmorgan
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Strategist
2018 Oct 11, 6:52pm
Strategist
2018 Oct 11, 6:52pm
LeonDurham says
The big banks already face tough regulation. So tough, that it discourages them from making mortgage loans that don't conform to Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac rules. They need to ease off on the banks as it's causing more harm.
Trump promised to get tough on Wall St. and Big Banks.
The big banks already face tough regulation. So tough, that it discourages them from making mortgage loans that don't conform to Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac rules. They need to ease off on the banks as it's causing more harm.
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Strategist
2018 Oct 11, 7:00pm
Strategist
2018 Oct 11, 7:00pm
LeonDurham says
The Obama administration placed tough regulations on the banks after the government was forced to bail them out during the 2008 housing collapse.
Are you saying Obama did nothing to control banks after bailing them out? If so, that would be sheer incompetence on the part of Obama, won't it?
Strategist saysThe big banks already face tough regulation.
lol--please tell me you're joking
The Obama administration placed tough regulations on the banks after the government was forced to bail them out during the 2008 housing collapse.
Are you saying Obama did nothing to control banks after bailing them out? If so, that would be sheer incompetence on the part of Obama, won't it?
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LeonDurham
2018 Oct 11, 7:31pm
Strategist says
Actually, I'm saying Trump signed the law that reversed the Obama regulations. You didn't know this?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-dodd-frank/trump-signs-bill-easing-u-s-bank-rules-into-law-idUSKCN1IP2WX
The Obama administration placed tough regulations on the banks after the government was forced to bail them out during the 2008 housing collapse.
Are you saying Obama did nothing to control banks after bailing them out? If so, that would be sheer incompetence on the part of Obama, won't it?
Actually, I'm saying Trump signed the law that reversed the Obama regulations. You didn't know this?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-dodd-frank/trump-signs-bill-easing-u-s-bank-rules-into-law-idUSKCN1IP2WX
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