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jazz_music says

Anifa(cists)

And you’re already wrong. Has anyone ever respected your opinion?

jazz_music says

It matters not, because we won.

I'd hate to see what happens when you lose.

Shaman says

jazz_music says

Anifa(cists)

And you’re already wrong. Has anyone ever respected your opinion?

At least he's not starving and has a smartphone.

jazz_music says

Shaman says

Has anyone ever respected your opinion?

Your question is a simple attack

You ask too many questions

It is a legitimate question. You have never said anything that made me consider I'm wrong, and I'm often wrong.

In my opinion, you don't seem to listen to other people, or to actually debate them. For example, there is this response to me:

https://patrick.net/post/1322306&offset=200#comment-1765132

Now if I'm wrong, I honestly want to know where the error in my thinking is. You have never done that with me. Your assertion that "Trump followers are fascists" is incorrect - I suppose some of them are, but a vanishingly small minority, and honestly I don't think you know what a fascist actually is. I'm sure there's some communists in there as well who are Trump supporters. It's just another slander that isn't even worth responding to. It's a robotic response, and when I saw the creation of the NPC meme, I laughed for 20 minutes, seriously, because it's absolutely true. There's no depth to your thinking, and I question if you really try to think.

Now, if that opinion is wrong, please feel free to demonstrate it, and I will genuinely consider it but I will need to see examples where you've actually shown somebody is incorrect without just blind assertion and blanket statements.

What is the foundation of your thinking? Do you have any? All you do is ridicule. Am I incorrect about my statements? Show me. If you can show me I'm wrong, I will certainly change my viewpoint, but appeal to mockery isn't going to convince me I'm incorrect. It might convince an audience in a debate, but this is no debate it is an attempt at discussion. I honestly want to know if I'm incorrect. Point out my errors.

Onvacation says

jazz_music says

It matters not, because we won.

I'd hate to see what happens when you lose.

You saw what happened when he lost.

We had 4 years of propaganda about Trump being a Russian agent, that our election what stolen because of "Russian Collusion" (somehow - it was never explained), and when that didn't work 9 months of Antifa and BLM burning, looting, and murdering - and nobody went to jail over it and finally, we had a stolen election.

This happened, in my opinion, because we finally had a president that refused to start a new goddamned fucking worthless war. That can't be tolerated!

jazz_music says

richwicks says

It is a legitimate question

Excellent job.

That whole screed was awesome and I’d enjoy seeing your honest pursuit of reasoned debate on important issues.

I’ll be watching.

Btw there is this:
Trump is not going to be reinstated as president in August or ever. Trump LOST, LOL

No, Trump will not be reinstated as president.

I'm simply pointing out that our intelligence agencies placed Biden into the presidency, because he's a puppet of them.

You've shown no error in my reasoning and logic. I have to draw the conclusion that you are unable to do that. I cannot change my mind if you can't show I'm wrong.

Pretty crack addict by the way..

HunterTits says

richwicks says

No, Trump will not be reinstated as president.

I'm simply pointing out that our intelligence agencies placed Biden into the presidency, because he's a puppet of them.

You've shown no error in my reasoning and logic. I have to draw the conclusion that you are unable to do that. I cannot change my mind if you can't show I'm wrong.

He just trolls. That in itself isn't the problem. It's that he has really, really crappy trolling 'skills'.

I think jazz's age is like 14 years old or something. One of my current theories.

I am well aware of what @jazz_music is likely to be.

The trick of trapping a troll, is to confront them with reasoning and logic and force them to evade it. I'm "playing stupid" a little too.

If I were to do this with a so-called "flat-earther" I'd start asking questions like "well, why do all the planets appear to be round - are they discs too?" or "well, then how to timezones work on the flat earth?" - etc. It's not that I expect a reasonable answer, or even an answer at all - but if I can force them to attempt to give an answer, they fail, and if I force them to evade giving an answer, they fail.

Trolls are weird in that they say nothing, and waste a lot of time doing it. I imagine a lot of them are actually working for PR firms - propaganda firms.

I take whatever they say at face value, just to show them to be wrong. It's Socratic method. Also, I cannot be angered or even irritated by them because I don't respect whatever their stated opinion is, and I don't even believe they are sincere in their stated opinion.

jazz_music says

HunterTits says

You can't trap a 14 year old with reasoning and logic.

Another stinking conspiracy theory, eh?

He's just stating that you act like a 14 year old. For example, you identify that as a "conspiracy theory" - what person would call an obvious insult, a "conspiracy theory", in order to simply dismiss it? Well, a 14 year old might.

HunterTits says

richwicks says

The trick of trapping a troll, is to confront them with reasoning and logic and force them to evade it. I'm "playing stupid" a little too.

You can't trap a 14 year old with reasoning and logic.

He's not 14.

Look, all he's doing is trying to antagonize people. That's all he can do - I just enjoy demonstrating it. I know it won't lead anywhere.

HunterTits says

Here’s a thought

The intelligence agencies can't be trusted.

That's who overthrew our nation in the last election. Standard operating procedure of the CIA. Our intelligence agencies, betrayed the nation.

All they have to do is get a few people below them, to fall in line and they have considerable power to do so, up to and including, murdering people who do not fall in line. Wikileaks has repeatedly exposed conspiracies, and you still don't know how they work.

jazz_music says

HunterTits says

I propose you watch the British series "Yes Minister!"

Better you listen to this speech, the Q&A and read his book
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qubr4MZZSfU

Fuck youtube!

jazz_music says

It’s not like you’d read the book.

Depends on the book.

Not interested in reading Mao's drivel for sure.

Donald says

But wasn't Trump in charge of the intelligence agencies?

In THEORY.

But in actuality, of course Trump doesn't control the intelligence agencies. The intelligence agencies control the government - entirely. That's our "Deep State".

jazz_music says

richwicks says

"conspiracy theory", in order to simply dismiss it? Well, a 14 year old might.

I might get respect if I joined you fascists and posted animated titties and such.

Why you so mad bro?

Oh - you can't possibly make me angry.

I haven't seen you once take issue with any statement I've made. You simply avoid questions and ignore reasoning. You have no interest in actually thinking or encouraging others to think.

jazz_music says

Tits, I don’t believe you.

You are nothing but disruptive

@jazz_music - it's quite clear to me you are simply trolling. Why do you do this? I'm curious as why people would bother?

This forum is one of the very few forums that has people who are actually thinking and exchanging ideas rather than just arguing endlessly. Why pollute it by just trying to enrage people? In my considered opinion that's all you're attempting to do.

If you think I actually am incorrect in a belief or a viewpoint, maybe I am. Explain it to me and I will certainly reconsider my position.

I'd do this for you, however you don't give me anything to work with. When I attempt to talk with you, you don't engage. You don't dispute what I state, you don't point out what you think are errors in my thinking, you don't question what I consider facts. You just move on to another long ago dismissed talking point. You strongly remind me of the people who were marched out on the Internet back in the early 2000's to support that stupid fucking war that George W. Bush lied us into. You are extremely similar to them.

And @HunterTits - all he's doing is trying to enrage you. The only person that can make you angry, is yourself. Do you respect jazz_music's (supposed) opinions or find his reasoning to be superior to your own? If not, why do you care about what he says about you? The only thing he is doing is trying to create an argument, and he actively avoids conversation.

Also don't forget, you can upvote your own post, as I just did. That's what jazz_music does. He's really his own only fan.. :P

HunterTits says

richwicks says

And @HunterTits - all he's doing is trying to enrage you

I am not enraged. I am working to expose him for what he is.

I doubt anybody here doesn't know what @jazz_music is. Have more faith in people's awareness here. Most people just ignore him.

By they way, we both have the same number of people ignoring us - 4, I bet it's same people. :) I tend to take trolls and dishonest arguers to task, until I exhaust them.

HunterTits says

richwicks says

By they way, we both have the same number of people ignoring us - 4, I bet it's same people. :) I tend to take trolls and dishonest arguers to task, until I exhaust them.

I bet they are null accounts. I have a number of null accounts on my ignore list and hence can not delete them. Bet it works the same way with 'people' who ignore others.

I don't place anybody on ignore on principle. Even if I think they are dishonest or outright lying, I want to know what BS they are pushing.

I have read Mine Kampf, not because I agreed with Hitler, I wanted to understand his thinking. Propaganda by Edward Bernays is a good book, and I hate that son of a bitch. Still he explains pretty well how people are influenced.

jazz_music says

Trump lost

Where's your evidence there was no election fraud?

richwicks says

I don't place anybody on ignore on principle.

I don't need no stinking button to ignore people.

I did, however, ignore this one guy (assuming gender) because he would not stop spamming my inbox.

porkchopexpress says

jazz_music says

Trump lost

Where's your evidence there was no election fraud?

Don't hold your breath. When challenged, some people just ignore you. Without a button.

https://www.ntd.com/live-cpac-texas-america-uncanceled-day-3_641382.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

Trump’s Full Speech at CPAC Texas

Spotted in London:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/airplane-flies-massive-trump-won-bidens-fraud-banner-new-jersey/

Trump boat trolls Rehoboth beach Delaware
https://thepalmierireport.com/trump-boat-trolls-dems-ahead-of-bidens-delaware-trip/

Biden is getting trolled again.

A Trump boat with a scrolling message appeared near Rehoboth Beach in Deleware.

Biden has a home near here and is expected to go there this weekend.

It is tough to read the entire message but one section of it is calling out the phony impeachments that were levied against Trump.

I wonder. If Hillary were in power would we have ever had the lockdowns? Or would we have gone straight to WW3?

In Southern Maryland:

I'm guessing the jab mandates are making Joe literally the least popular "president" in history.

But then, he wasn't even elected.